[Speedie]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe

You are incorrect, I believe. When a theory is "proven," it becomes a scientific LAW. Like the theory of gravity became the law of gravity. Same with physics and others.

It was PROVEN FACT at one time not too long ago that the world was flat. That scientific LAW did not hold water.
So why are we assuming that any current scientific LAW must be correct?

Because now people are so much smarter?? Not!!

[djplong]

Originally Posted by Speedie

It was PROVEN FACT at one time not too long ago that the world was flat. That scientific LAW did not hold water.
So why are we assuming that any current scientific LAW must be correct?

Because now people are so much smarter?? Not!!

Not too long ago? Ancient Greeks and Egyptians (those that were educated) knew the world wasn't flat. We've known this for thousands of years. *Science* never said the world was flat (certainly not since "The Scientific Method" was developed).

In the 5th Century BC, the concept of a spherical world shows up in Greek philosophy - Pythagoras proposed it around 500 BC. In the 3rd Century BC, Hellenistic astronomy established it as fact and even went so far as to calculate the Earth's circumference.

In June of 240 BC, Eratosthones calculated it to be about 250,000 stadia. Modern scholars disagree about the length of the stadium used by Eratosthenes. Values between 500 and about 600 feet have been suggested, putting Eratosthenes’ calculated circumference between about 24,000 miles and about 29,000 miles. The Earth is now known to measure about 24,900 miles around the equator, slightly less around the poles.

[Mrfriendly]

Originally Posted by Blueblaze

Don't be silly. There are thousands of examples of one species evolving into another one. We have fossils and we have DNA studies. In fact, we can trace mitochondrial DNA back to "LUCY", an ape that walked upright in Africa 3 million years ago, proving that we share a common ancestor. Not only that, 98% of human DNA is identical to chimpanzee DNA.

Just because you aren't aware of a thing does not mean that it does not exist.

I guess we that caught the Covid-19 virus are now part Bat?

[Windguy]

I see a common misunderstanding here. First off, Darwin didn’t propose that evolution exists. People could see the evidence of it and then he came up with an explanation (Natural Selection) of why it happens.

Evidence of evolution is all around. Viruses/bacteria mutate. Our abuse of antibiotics has resulted in super bugs because those bugs that have a slightly better resistance are the ones that survive and pass on their genes. The weak ones die and their line disappears. That’s natural selection. This is what we teach in schools.

People breed animals and plants to optimize them for their use. Does your pet “fur baby” look anything like a wolf? No, it has evolved through what people might consider unnatural selection (evolution directed by humans).

Darwin didn’t propose a theory of evolution but a theory of its cause. Evolution is a fact—not a theory.

[WiscoGirl]

Originally Posted by Rich Iwaszko

hi,
the theory of evolution has never been proven. There is no missing link. Yet we teach it in schools. Why? In Darwins book, he left a bail out to his theory. It was the one thing he could not answer and he admitted it would be proof his conclusions were incorrect. Pre Cambrian fossils showed no signs of evolution to explain the over abundance of many animals in fossils in the Cambrian period. Animals just showed up out of nowhere in the Cambrian period. Why do we continue to believe this incorrect theory as well as aliens, Bigfoot, and the Loch Ness monster. Are we all that dumb or are we just looking for entertainment. Regardless, Darwins theory should not be taught in schools as it is not fact. Just tell them we don't know. We have enough fiction in the world today. Science is fact not fictional theories.

You mistake one big thing. Science isn't fact. Science is always theory until the theory is proven. When a particular scientific theory can be proven (over & over & over) it then becomes scientific law. For an example of scientific theory becoming scientific law seek Sir Isaac Newton's many scientific laws. His law of gravity can be proven mathematically. Science and math are intricately woven.

Science in order to become law must be proven. Science is in no way ever simply a fact.

P.S. no, we are not all that dumb, however the Fabian socialists would like us to be.

[Marine1974]

If the old covenant was flawless there wouldn’t be the need of the new covenant. Hebrews chapter 8 will explain it .

[Ptmckiou]

Meet Ardi…3.8 million years old. He is a couple million years older than the famous Lucy missing link. The theory is alive and well. Biological cells evolve with time, adapt to new environments, or die off. Same for humans who are made of evolving DNA and cells.

Ancient fossil found in Ethiopia reveals face of early human ancestor A. anamensis, species even older than "Lucy," from 3.8 million years ago - CBS News

[WiscoGirl]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I think that is just semantics. Who has the authority to elevate a theory into a law?

PROOF! ... proof is all that's required to elevate a theory into law, and the person who proves it obtains this authority.

[JoelJohnson]

For thousands of years, people thought the Earth was the center of the universe.

When facts change I change my mind, what do you do?

[Joe C.]

Through all my years in school, I was never taught "Darwin's Theory". Only heard of it afterwards.

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by ptmckiou

meet ardi…3.8 million years old. He is a couple million years older than the famous lucy missing link. The theory is alive and well. Biological cells evolve with time, adapt to new environments, or die off. Same for humans who are made of evolving dna and cells.

ancient fossil found in ethiopia reveals face of early human ancestor a. Anamensis, species even older than "lucy," from 3.8 million years ago - cbs news

tell us about it

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by WiscoGirl

You mistake one big thing. Science isn't fact. Science is always theory until the theory is proven. When a particular scientific theory can be proven (over & over & over) it then becomes scientific law. For an example of scientific theory becoming scientific law seek Sir Isaac Newton's many scientific laws. His law of gravity can be proven mathematically. Science and math are intricately woven.

Science in order to become law must be proven. Science is in no way ever simply a fact.

P.S. no, we are not all that dumb, however the Fabian socialists would like us to be.

Agreed. However I would take it one step further: no scientific "law", is ever immutable, no matter how set-in-stone the evidence points it out to be. A good example is in physics: the laws of mechanics and thermodynamics work precisely as they should--every time--EXCEPT when things are taken down to the quantum level, where such "laws" appear to be broken with impunity.

This is one reason (the primary reason, actually) that I question whenever a scientific "fact" becomes dogma; a belief so ingrained in the believers that they won't even admit to the faintest possibility that their belief might not be quite as rock-solid as they'd like to believe it is. Good science is ALWAYS ready (and should be willing) to revise whatever theory or "law" based on new evidence.

It is certainly that way with evolution. Things change as new facts (and fossils) come to light. We should be able to accept them, even though they might not support our own ideas or beliefs.

[WiscoGirl]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

Agreed. However I would take it one step further: no scientific "law", is ever immutable, no matter how set-in-stone the evidence points it out to be. A good example is in physics: the laws of mechanics and thermodynamics work precisely as they should--every time--EXCEPT when things are taken down to the quantum level, where such "laws" appear to be broken with impunity.

This is one reason (the primary reason, actually) that I question whenever a scientific "fact" becomes dogma; a belief so ingrained in the believers that they won't even admit to the faintest possibility that their belief might not be quite as rock-solid as they'd like to believe it is. Good science is ALWAYS ready (and should be willing) to revise whatever theory or "law" based on new evidence.

It is certainly that way with evolution. Things change as new facts (and fossils) come to light. We should be able to accept them, even though they might not support our own ideas or beliefs.

Thank you for explaining this further. I agree with you 100%.

[Whitley]

Originally Posted by Windguy

I see a common misunderstanding here. First off, Darwin didn’t propose that evolution exists. People could see the evidence of it and then he came up with an explanation (Natural Selection) of why it happens.

Evidence of evolution is all around. Viruses/bacteria mutate. Our abuse of antibiotics has resulted in super bugs because those bugs that have a slightly better resistance are the ones that survive and pass on their genes. The weak ones die and their line disappears. That’s natural selection. This is what we teach in schools.

People breed animals and plants to optimize them for their use. Does your pet “fur baby” look anything like a wolf? No, it has evolved through what people might consider unnatural selection (evolution directed by humans).

Darwin didn’t propose a theory of evolution but a theory of its cause. Evolution is a fact—not a theory.

This is my pet puppy cuddles. If you squint I guess he may look a bit wolfish.

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[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by wiscogirl

thank you for explaining this further. I agree with you 100%.

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