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Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I can agree with that. A good point about the difference between faith and religion. I try to avoid the whole issue of religion by not giving it MUCH thought. I believe that Lincoln had faith rather than religion. When people show me that they are "of GOOD WILL" and are generally good people, I can respect that whether they are church goers or NOT. For SOME small % of people (about 5%), i believe that church is good for them, they NEED that type of socialization. Church helps to stabilize many on the low socio-economical scale, they NEED it. There are intelligent people that express a NEED for church. They may be a farmer or business person in a RURAL area where church-going is VERY EXPECTED and they NEED to CONFORM.

Many urban intelligent people are ADVERSE to attending church. Some attend due to worry about the AFTER LIFE-thing. Agnostics are often called "chicken atheists".

"Chicken atheists" ? More likely an agnostic is just saying "I don't know". I guess I am a sort of "spiritual agnostic". I don't believe in any religion, but I suspect there is something more, indefinable, unimaginable and imperceptible/unknowable.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by jimbomaybe

Because some/many need a reason for their existence, ego trip

How about just enjoy the ride and see what happens?

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

How about just enjoy the ride and see what happens?

Well, I mostly enjoyed the ride for a while. As to "see what happens", a lot of very unpleasant stuff began to happen. Some of it is related to ageing, some not. But the ride isn't over yet.