[Bucco]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Did you think I was serious that anyone should use lack of looks as a reason to cheat on their wife ......that their wife did not look like she did when she was younger????????

You didn't think I meant that...I hope? It is the same awful thing to cheat on a wife like John Edwards did....Awful.Awful.Awful. Who could say that that was a decent thing to do? It isn't love the way I know it.

AND Ilovetv is right. That isn't the issue. The issue is that when this was all happening, what else was happening? Something just doesn't smell right.

Well, one of the best witness's to Benghazi and what REALLY happened has had his reputation discredited when all on the General was known in the summer ???

[coralway]

Pat Robertson Justifies Petraeus Affair: ‘Here

[Mack184]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

This is ridiculous. You say you are married (referring to "my wife"). So the expectation from your doctor is that you will move and have sex with strangers????? Not a very realistic assessment, unless you do plan to have sex with strangers in TV.

Getting back to the subject, Petraeus, "the affair" is not the issue, to me. His wife and most wives know when their husband is a horndog that drools over anything female that walks by on the street, and many ignore it.

The top intelligence officer of the nation making himself subject to blackmail and stealing of highly classified intelligence, and then the powers-that-be allowing this national security risk to continue until "the you-know-what" is over, is the issue.

My point of the entire post is that there seem to be a lot of people on this board who want to give the general a pass for his dishonest, immoral behavior. I am guessing that the reason for this is that a great many people in TV appear to be having a lot of risky out-of-marriage sex based on what our doctor told us, and the CDC reports my wife checked out. Since this sort of behavior seems OK with a number of people in TV, then I guess their view is that it's OK for the general.

[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by Mack184

My point of the entire post is that there seem to be a lot of people on this board who want to give the general a pass for his dishonest, immoral behavior. I am guessing that the reason for this is that a great many people in TV appear to be having a lot of risky out-of-marriage sex based on what our doctor told us, and the CDC reports my wife checked out. Since this sort of behavior seems OK with a number of people in TV, then I guess their view is that it's OK for the general.

"Appear to". Nice job of stereotyping 90,000 of the best neighbors you'll ever have.

As for Petraeus, I don't think many here are condoning his selfish, immature affair. The point is that his wife and God will deal with those sins. But our nation must deal with the distinct blackmail and enemy espionage possibilities he caused....having been likely shoved under the rug, endangering our military and citizenry, until after the you-know-what was over.

[Mack184]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

"Appear to". Nice job of stereotyping 90,000 of the best neighbors you'll ever have.

As for Petraeus, I don't think many here are condoning his selfish, immature affair. The point is that his wife and God will deal with those sins. But our nation must deal with the distinct blackmail and enemy espionage possibilities he caused....having been likely shoved under the rug, endangering our military and citizenry, until after the you-know-what was over.

OK..Let's get on with the facts. The seriousness of the STD & HIV outbreaks in TV has been documented as fact by the state of Florida & the federal CDC. It has been extensively reported on by the following: Orlando TV-6, WFTV, CBS Television Network, The Orlando Sentinel, USA Today, FreeRepublic.com, The Huffington Post and city-data.com to mention a few. A simple google search will turn this up.

It's not a matter of "appeared to be" or conjecture, it's true. The facts back it up.

[quirky3]

Originally Posted by Mack184

OK..Let's get on with the facts. The seriousness of the STD & HIV outbreaks in TV has been documented as fact by the state of Florida & the federal CDC. It has been extensively reported on by the following: Orlando TV-6, WFTV, CBS Television Network, The Orlando Sentinel, USA Today, FreeRepublic.com, The Huffington Post and city-data.com to mention a few. A simple google search will turn this up.

It's not a matter of "appeared to be" or conjecture, it's true. The facts back it up.

This was discussed extensively over the past few years, especially after the publication of "Leisureville". First, please provide the CDC reports and statistics that prove your point. Secondly, I remember seeing reports (I don't remember the source though) that showed it was actually the percent increase over time that was high, not the actual number of cases within the population. It was the increase from around the year 2000 to the year 2006, and it went from something like 50 cases to 100 cases in all of The Villages (population 80,000). So while you could say the number of cases doubled and make it sound alarming, it was actually about one-tenth of one percent of the population. So it depends on your perspective. But please do share those CDC reports.

[Mack184]

Originally Posted by quirky3

This was discussed extensively over the past few years, especially after the publication of "Leisureville". First, please provide the reports and statistics that prove your point. Secondly, I remember seeing reports (I don't remember the source though) that showed it was actually the percent increase over time that was high, not the actual number of cases within the population. It was the increase from around the year 2000 to the year 2006, and it went from something like 50 cases to 100 cases in all of The Villages (population 80,000). So while you could say the number of cases doubled and make it sound alarming, it was actually about one-tenth of one percent of the population. So it depends on your perspective. But please do share those reports.

What do you mean share the reports? I just did. I named the sources. As I said a simple google check is all that is needed to read any of those sources that I have named. The bottom line is that there is a lot of risky sexual activity going on in TV area, and again, I think that points to why people are so wiling to give the general a pass on his dishonest & immoral behavior.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by Mack184

OK..Let's get on with the facts. The seriousness of the STD & HIV outbreaks in TV has been documented as fact by the state of Florida & the federal CDC. It has been extensively reported on by the following: Orlando TV-6, WFTV, CBS Television Network, The Orlando Sentinel, USA Today, FreeRepublic.com, The Huffington Post and city-data.com to mention a few. A simple google search will turn this up. It's not a matter of "appeared to be" or conjecture, it's true. The facts back it up.

I don't think these statistics are related to the topic at hand.

[Golfingnut]

I would say the primary reason I will never stray is the love and respect I have for my wife. Without that, rules, my job, moral standards religious beliefs etc. etc. are always present and respected, but none hold the weight of the pain I would cause my wife if I were caught up in this type of thing and that keeps me on the straight more than anything else.

[Patty55]

This is the sort of thing that concerns me, I couldn't care less who is poking who.

CIA denies it detained militants in Benghazi - CBS News

Was Broadwell there in some sort of official capacity, or did she get her info through pillow talk?

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by Patty55

This is the sort of thing that concerns me, I couldn't care less who is poking who.

CIA denies it detained militants in Benghazi - CBS News

Was Broadwell there in some sort of official capacity, or did she get her info through pillow talk?

I agree with you. We have more important issues to address than the infidelity of a husband. Give the information to his wife and forget it.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Patty55

This is the sort of thing that concerns me, I couldn't care less who is poking who.

CIA denies it detained militants in Benghazi - CBS News

Was Broadwell there in some sort of official capacity, or did she get her info through pillow talk?

I would wait until more facts come to light. I know that sometimes they never do but there seem to be too many spotlights on this for any kind of creative cover-up. Fox News and those Benghazi detainees - Erik Wemple - The Washington Post

[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by Mack184

What do you mean share the reports? I just did. I named the sources. As I said a simple google check is all that is needed to read any of those sources that I have named. The bottom line is that there is a lot of risky sexual activity going on in TV area, and again, I think that points to why people are so wiling to give the general a pass on his dishonest & immoral behavior.

As usual, context gives a more accurate perspective.....

"....For instance, in Arizona's Maricopa and Pima counties - home to large retirement communities just outside Phoenix - the percent of reported cases of syphilis and chlamydia increased twice as fast as the national average from 2005 to 2009. Reported cases were up 87 percent among those 55 and older in those counties.

In Central Florida, where The Villages and other retirement communities sprawl across several counties, reported cases of syphilis and chlamydia increased 71 percent among those 55 and older in that same period. And South Florida saw a 60 percent rise in those two sexually transmitted infections among the same age group, according to the Florida Department of Health.

In Riverside County, Calif., home to retirement Mecca Palm Springs, reported cases were up 50 percent over the five-year span, according to data from that county's health department. The reported cases of syphilis and chlamydia among older adults outpaced the nation's average, according to the analysis.

Among all age groups nationwide, reported cases of syphilis increased 60 percent between 2005 and 2009, while in the 55 to 64 age group it increased 70 percent. Meanwhile, the incidences of chlamydia rose 27 percent among all ages, and double that among those age 55 to 64.

Read more at: Seniors' sex lives are up -- and so are STD cases

[perrjojo]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

As usual, context gives a more accurate perspective.....

"....For instance, in Arizona's Maricopa and Pima counties - home to large retirement communities just outside Phoenix - the percent of reported cases of syphilis and chlamydia increased twice as fast as the national average from 2005 to 2009. Reported cases were up 87 percent among those 55 and older in those counties.

In Central Florida, where The Villages and other retirement communities sprawl across several counties, reported cases of syphilis and chlamydia increased 71 percent among those 55 and older in that same period. And South Florida saw a 60 percent rise in those two sexually transmitted infections among the same age group, according to the Florida Department of Health.

In Riverside County, Calif., home to retirement Mecca Palm Springs, reported cases were up 50 percent over the five-year span, according to data from that county's health department. The reported cases of syphilis and chlamydia among older adults outpaced the nation's average, according to the analysis.

Among all age groups nationwide, reported cases of syphilis increased 60 percent between 2005 and 2009, while in the 55 to 64 age group it increased 70 percent. Meanwhile, the incidences of chlamydia rose 27 percent among all ages, and double that among those age 55 to 64.

Read more at: Seniors' sex lives are up -- and so are STD cases

This may be interesting information to some but I can't see that it has anything to do with the OP.

[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by perrjojo

This may be interesting information to some but I can't see that it has anything to do with the OP.

The assertion made was that many people here are trying to excuse Petraeus from his adultery because those who give him a pass are doing it themselves. I replied with the national-level rates quoted, to thwart the denigration of our neighbors/friends here in TV.

ON the topic, others of us want to focus on how national security--knowingly compromised--may well have been kept under the rug for the sake of campaigning.