Some of these terrorists do spend a great deal of time reading The Koran while cutting off people's heads in their spare time.

Oh, and just to be accurate, the Post is NOT owned by Amazon.

It is owned by Jeff Bezoz and tht is a huge difference.

To be accurate, it is owned by a holding company established by Bezoz

The news is not something you can believe without doing a lot of homework trying to figure out what is acturally true it's filled with lies and half-truths journalists are not objective and have not been trained by universities to "just give the facts". The end justifies the means for way too many people.

And that is why no news is good news.

That is an extremely scary post.

Can you supply a link to n example of this

News....NOT opinion.

You need to be able to identify the difference.

Of course you are correct, but I fail to see the distinction. Both the Post and Amazon are controlled by Bezos, and I have no idea if he gets involved with day-to-day operations at the Washington Post, but I have always wondered why one of the richest people on earth would want to own a newspaper, which is a losing proposition as a business. I think it's fair to wonder if he wants the megaphone.

I implore you to READ....especially, the way news is managed there, the Times, etc.

You are making extremely general, unfair and untrue comments.

Please read beyond what is preached to you.

Thanks. I think you might b impressed with the journllistic efforts by these papers.

It is so good, in fact, that each time n error is made, Some make a really big deal of it. And that is very rare. And always prompted by the same source.

The Post and the Times, and some others, always acknowledge and apologize if necessary...correct. The source that complains, based on corrections and apologizes has NEVER been wrong

To respond directly to the question....why.

Simple, newspapers were (are) floundering relative to the print. Bezoz he the money and savvy online to save a longtrusted corporation. He brought the paper an online presence. Very little, if any impact on the news coverage or editorial base.

Bottom line is the bottom line...good financial opportunity, but NOT some devious conspiracy.

All's it takes from a "news" source is an apology or retraction.... and it's back to unicorns and puppies.
Steve

Not sure about your adjectives, but yes......that is how mature adults run business.

As to your little adjective used, have you ever checked the source of that particular phrase ? Interesting to read

ALSO.....since the title and subject of this thread is NEWS. Other than a very ill advised headline, were any actual FACTS reported in correctly based on your reading.

Pretty hard to do.

News broadcasts are in the business of selling air time and getting viewers, and will modify their reporting enough to sensationalize it for more viewers. When I hear a news, sports, or weather broadcast that starts or ends with ...."you heard it first....." I turn it off. I found channel 15 on DirecTV has a newscast from Paris, France in english reporting events of the world. The reporting is straight facts without opinion by the station. Refreshing when comparing the same content to US networks. I also dispise that mass media takes political sides (right or left) and slant their reporting with that in mind. All you can do now adays is watch and make your own opinion.

"If You Don’t Read the Newspaper You Are Uninformed, If You Do Read the Newspaper You Are Misinformed"......Mark Twain

VERY CLOSE to true.

I watch very little television news as you are correct...they are vying for viewers. I watch because you never know when you hear something a bit different, but mostly I rely on the WORLDS best coverage of news.....NYTIMES and WASHINGTON POST to begin with but not exclusive. I am old thus I have read over the journalistic protocals of most, and find those two plus a few others obviously to closely match, NOT MY LEANINGS, but the pursuit of facts that I am looking for.

Of course we then need to insure we read and insure understanding.

I will object to any media source that openly entertains a "state run" or "party run" approach to the news or anything.

CABLE NEWS SHOWS are not my cup of tea, nor should anyone rely on them to present actual facts......it is easier but much less accurate.

If someone relies solely on CABLE for news, they have no part in any conversation on issues, WHICH BY THE WAY IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON.

Seems kind of a simplistic take on the media.

So sad that news reporters look to the edges and not the middle. The fringe gets all the attention making it difficult to trust anything they present.

Nope. When journalists ceased being journalists and became activists it ruined everything.

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Well I get tired of hearing about all the finger pointing at each other in the govt. Because that’s about all you hear. Or it’s about all the shootings and assaults that’s going on, but I understand we do need to know that for our own protection in case it’s in our community. Just wish we could hear something positive! Makes me feel like there’s nothing to look forward to. I agree with you totally!

It's important to watch/read several different sources so you can be fully informed. We tend to align ourselves with certain ways of thinking, when we hear things to the contrary it can be hard to accept. Neither accept everything you hear or read nor jump to the conclusion it's fake news when it conflicts with your views. Back in the day, we rarely questioned the news as it was presented, "and that's the way it is..."

There is no NEWS on tv, only political agendas.

Look for results. What is actually being done and what is just a matter of mouthing off or worse blameshifting.

On The Road With Steve Hartman | CBS Evening News - YouTube

Many of these stories by Steve Hartman are quite positive and fun. He is often on in the last segment of CBS Evening News on Fridays.

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Regardless of your party affiliation or orientation, [U][B]please watch all 3 major news channels (Fox, CNN, MSNBC), then make up your mind on issues. We only know what they feed us and each one has their slant. Watching news has become like listening to music on Pandora, if you only like "country music" that is all it will play for you.

It is not a coincidence that Republicans listen to Fox, Democrats listen to MSNBC and those in the middle listen to CNN. Years ago everyone listened to the same 6 pm News and got the same info. Now, none of the stations report ALL of what you need to know to make an informed decision. That is why we are so polarized politically than we have ever been. Please do yourself and our country a favor and tune in to all 3 channels and then you will understand why not everyone thinks like you and also perhaps get more of a full picture on important issues and political developments. Be fully informed before casting your votes

RIGHT ON.

We do not talk ISSUES any longer....it seems to be all about assaulting others.

If we really honestly cared bout the issues in our country, we would not tolerate ignoring our economy, guns, intrusion into our countries basics from outside

Media will play a video from a newsmaker.......newsmaker says, despite the obvious that they never said that.....suddenly the story is the media and the basic beginning of whatever was the point is now lost and we argue over the coverage and simply ignore the basic issue involved.

I guess that ploy is working because discussing the media or trashing those in the media seems to be the mainstay. Instead of issues, we just blame media.

Many months ago, almost all of our leaders in both houses of congress were calling for gun control. There was one sweeping bill passed, two more in the wings depending on the outcome of the first....all about, i think, widening the scope of background checks. THAT was passed right after the first of the year. ALL silent, no vote on the single bill passed. We are guilty, NOT the legislators for allowing this to happen. YET, we debate only headlines, NOT NEWS, or perceptions of things not founded in any facts day after day.

This thread was begun with a premise about whether to believe the news, yet we ignore the factual discussion and instead attack headline writers, etc, instead of discussing actual news.

news is fine but it is, as Tal has suggested, we ignore what we want in any case and go for the easy way.

You are correct, and by the way....politicians know this and play to everything you said

Don't be discouraged Bay Kid. You started a fantastic thread. :mademyday: I appreciate your thoughts. Some of our fellow residents just love to spin anything they read. Some claim age as a factor when it's convenient or needed to cover their tracks. Some are just miserable. Some cry about unkind words from others yet spread them themselves on a regular basis. Some hide behind the love of their Children and Grandchildren when needed to make a point. You know maybe these Posters are the people on The Newscasts??

I have to admit that my Channel of Choice has burnt me out so I changed to their competition for a while and then changed back. There is very little good news nowadays. It seems to be on a swivel. Somedays great Somedays bad. Not the news, the reporting.

You asked for people's opinions am I correct? So how can anyone do anything except giving their opinion instead of ripping other people's opinions and statements to shreds? Who gave them the power to be the teacher?

That's the sad thing. Spin, Spin, Spin!

Being an Informed Citizen Takes Work
 

Media is a very large landscape so it's important to be a "healthy skeptic" when it comes to news. Never before has information been weaponized like it is today. When you have the "leader" of the free world constantly labeling journalists as "enemy of the people," it's easy to understand why many people are confused. Still, journalism is the only protected business (First Amendment) for a reason. The Founding Fathers knew that if Congress or the Courts failed to check the power of the Executive Branch, it would fall to the press (or Fourth Estate) to hold truth to power. That's why this is a critical time for journalists to pursue the truth even when it's unpopular to do so. It's also important for consumers to question sources and challenge information they see and hear from news services or TV stations. I prefer print though most of my reading comes from online sources. I specifically don't trust talking heads who appear after 6 p.m. as "personalities" who are driven by ratings and not news. Trust doesn't mean that reporters from the Washington Post, N.Y. Times, Axios, The Atlantic or Vox don't makes mistakes. They do. The difference is that reporters from these outlets admit to errors and try to learn from them (or they are fired). Others are motivated only by providing information that confirms the bias of those who watch. Being truly informed (rather than entertained) takes work, time, and effort. And it's never been more important.

You are correct, and right on time it seems.

The post prior to yours takes the tac that is popular today. Those who offer constructive opinions are attacking others or some other name. Just another way to demean and trivialize your points which are very valid.

When you disagree with someone, that is not defined as ripping another opinion. It is defined as DISAGREEING and that is great.....on the issues and with some creds.. Two or more points of view and discussion is vital to all of us and always has been.

There is a real opportunity for a new station to arrive on the scene with honest non-biased journalists. So many are sick of the way it is. One party used to sharpen the other. Big government politics vs. small government. They can start there. The universities we partly fund don’t help as they too have blatant prejudices and are turning out activist journalists. I believe most people just want facts, not facts with an agenda. People need to cry out loudly for this. We are One people, diverse, different and that should be a good thing as we all can learn. As it is now, it is a house divided and that should scare us.

And, for those in office, it’s time when they pass laws that they are not exempt from them. If we can live with it, so can they with a few necessary exceptions of course.

Disagreeing and Spinning are two different things. Some people have it down to an Art Form. I think I'll take all the news and make up my own mind but I will never ever listen to one of the news channels. NEVER! Spin Away! I love News, I just watch too much of it! OK, it's all yours. Teach me where I'm wrong he said to no one in particular! Maybe it's my YOUT (Fred Gywnn & Joe Pesci) that makes even my OPINION never correct! It doesn't matter I answered the OP'S question.

When you realize that all programming exists so you will view the advertisements, it is easier to understand why strictly factual news is rare.

I listened this afternoon to Richard Engel reporting from Syria on the killing of Baghdaddi and how it was accomplished. It actually is somewhat different from what we are being told either by the news sources or from the White House. To have finally found this very terrible person and to have finished him off should be the whole story, it does not need spinning by either side - but spin it they will and we are left to fact search the truth for ourselves.

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It is up to the consumer of news to apply critical thinking skills for accuracy. I also have begun to believe only what I actually hear coming from someone's mouth---like trump and his tweets. I recently was able to visit Bears Ears and Escalante National Monuments which Sierra Club had reported were being diminished in size by Trump and I saw for myself and talked to Park Rangers about it and found it to be true. Trump has shrunk both monuments. I also traveled to Homestead, FL and looked over a fence into one of the camps for immigrant children and saw the conditions for myself. It takes research and time to find the truth, but it is possible.

First of all, Richard Engel is fantastic. He knows of what he speaks and his presentation is also great.

Yes, the story of the killing of a very bad person should have been the entire story, and in my opinion would have been had it had just been an announcement but so much was added and it overshadowed the story.

So correct and spot on. Research would actually open eyes as to just a sampling of what is actually happening.

Not a conspiracy theory, but from experience discussing them specifically and giving links are not allowed. And the subject is news....your post is spot on, and way back on this thread there was a post referring to news that goes unreported. Reported but overshadowed.

The "press" is given Constitutional protection because they are supposed to be the watchdog of the people. They make a mockery of that protection when they are the lapdog of a political group.

Interesting point
Steve

OK...........you lost me with your edit.
Steve

Describing Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi as an “austere religious scholar” is not related to so-called fake news or bias etc.

Rather, it’s WaPo’s unwillingness to accurately describe who he was.

He was the epitome … literally … of a Radical Is*lamic Terrorist, which is a largely forbidden term.

He was the Caliph (i.e combination of a Pope & King) who was the head guy for ISIS (Is*lamic State of Iraq and Syria). Hence, the WaPo simply chose to deliberately obfuscate who he was.

Great job by the US military and intel community by the way. I especially liked the “hero dog.” That snarling dog’s face was the last thing the Baghdadi saw on this earth and likely is what prompted him to hit the detonator.

Good post, maybe what we need is a show called FACT CHECK, that actually does just THAT!

Here is a screen shot of the headlines this morning on my computer screen, which is where I think most people read the news.