Dr. Birx doesn’t trust CDC numbers, thinks numbers are inflated by 25%

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Old 05-16-2020, 10:29 AM
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I think people that die "with covid19" are being added in with people that die "from" covid19
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Old 05-16-2020, 10:40 AM
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I think people that die "with covid19" are being added in with people that die "from" covid19
This is exactly what Dr Birx was talking about. The CDC instructed Doctors to code all patients who die that have tested positive for covid 19 as death from covid. Even if patient not tested, if they suspect covid 19 then its coded as covid 19 death.

You'd think people would be happy to hear that deaths from covid 19 have been inflated, but no, for some reason they want that death total high and will attack anyone who says different, including the Doctor who runs the Task Force.
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Old 05-16-2020, 11:22 AM
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Assuming that the deaths are inflated, then what? Are the positive cases, the 1.5 million in the US inflated too?

I believe that private hospitals may be looking after their bottom line. Still it’s a strange way to fund hospitals, in my opinion.
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Old 05-16-2020, 11:23 AM
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The more involved the CDC becomes in the pandemic, the more it will justify a substantial budget increase. Simple rule...……"Follow the money".
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Colorado just lowered their state covid 19 death total by 24%

It's a conspiracy. Dr Birx was off by 1%
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Old 05-16-2020, 11:27 AM
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Does that mean the hospitals have to give back 24% of the funds they received?
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Old 05-16-2020, 11:48 AM
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I understand that some people don’t believe Dr. Birx what she says about the CDC. But do I, I don’t know because I don’t work in this field. I’m sure she’s just giving her opinion. So maybe she’s right & maybe she’s not. So we have a right to voice our opinion but just make it an opinion, not a fact. Personally I guess I have to believe what the professionals say, even what the Dem. or Rep. say. This comment is just my opinion.
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Old 05-16-2020, 11:52 AM
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Assuming that the deaths are inflated, then what? Are the positive cases, the 1.5 million in the US inflated too?

I believe that private hospitals may be looking after their bottom line. Still it’s a strange way to fund hospitals, in my opinion.
When we do enough antibody tests that show a lot more people had covid 19 and did not die the death rate will be less than 1%, possibly not much worse than the flu.
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Old 05-16-2020, 11:56 AM
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When we do enough antibody tests that show a lot more people had covid 19 and did not die the death rate will be less than 1%, possibly not much worse than the flu.
May your thoughts be correct!
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Dr Birx already publicly admitted last month that CDC is telling states to code any death of an individual who tests positive for COVID-19 as a coronavirus death, even if it is not proven that the death was caused by COVID-19
Can you post a source to confirm this directive from the CDC? I couldn't find any such thing, other than a guidance that says, in part "COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is
assumed to have caused or contributed to death.
" (Emphasis theirs) This is taken from a PDF of the CDC guidance, which I don't know how to link to...

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Here's an example:

Colorado man dies from an astounding 0.55% blood alcohol level, State lists him as covid 19 death.

CO man dies from astounding 0.55 blood alcohol level, coronavirus listed as cause of death | Disrn
Well, OK. Let's take that one off, for sure. What else?
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I was told hospitals that list covid as cause of death receive $13,000 from Medicare for each death. Good reason to just say covid for everyone even if they had a heart attack.
It isn't for per death, that is the approximate Medicare payment for hospitalization for COVID patients. "There isn’t a Medicare diagnostic code specifically for COVID-19. Using payment rates for similar respiratory conditions, Kaiser estimated the average Medicare payment at $13,297 for a less severe hospitalization and $40,218 for hospitalization in which a patient is treated with a ventilator for at least 96 hours."
The "Kaiser" above is the Kaiser Family Foundation. PolitiFact: On hospitals and the possible financial incentive of COVID-19 patients
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Old 05-16-2020, 02:24 PM
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The hospital would receive $13K from the heart attack death but would receive $39K from a virus death
No, no, no. Just plain wrong.
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Old 05-16-2020, 02:31 PM
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When we do enough antibody tests that show a lot more people had covid 19 and did not die the death rate will be less than 1%, possibly not much worse than the flu.
Let's not forget that the CDC also estimates influenza deaths; it's a guaranteed certainty that not all of those are actually tested either. And many likely had contributing, underlying conditions as well.
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Old 05-16-2020, 04:49 PM
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Besides Covid testing, I think Dr. Birx also needs an x-ray.


I think she's missing her spine.
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Old 05-16-2020, 04:52 PM
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Naw, she just knows what it costs to be in the limelight.
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