[sunnyatlast]

Originally Posted by BarryRX

I thought it obvious. We have almost 90 posts about something that is of no danger to any of us. A lot of,folks are spouting worst case scenarios, but so far ebola is statistically not dangerous to anyone here. You are about a million times more likely to die from heart disease or a car accident than Ebola, yet we appear to be more frightened of Ebola. Heck, the upcoming flu season is more dangerous to you. In the last three months that we have been worried about Ebola, 150,000 people have died of heart disease in this country. In the same time period, I think 2 people have died from Ebola in this country.

"It's of no danger to anyone here." Try telling that to the passengers on the flight from Cleveland to Dallas Monday night, the night before the 2nd nurse was diagnosed with Ebola. Try telling that to the virologists and infectious disease researchers/directors at the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, the director of which wrote this (excerpt):

"The second possibility is one that virologists are loath to discuss openly but are definitely considering in private: that an Ebola virus could mutate to become transmissible through the air. You can now get Ebola only through direct contact with bodily fluids. But viruses like Ebola are notoriously sloppy in replicating, meaning the virus entering one person may be genetically different from the virus entering the next. The current Ebola virus’s hyper-evolution is unprecedented; there has been more human-to-human transmission in the past four months than most likely occurred in the last 500 to 1,000 years. Each new infection represents trillions of throws of the genetic dice.

If certain mutations occurred, it would mean that just breathing would put one at risk of contracting Ebola. Infections could spread quickly to every part of the globe, as the H1N1 influenza virus did in 2009, after its birth in Mexico.

Why are public officials afraid to discuss this? They don’t want to be accused of screaming “Fire!” in a crowded theater — as I’m sure some will accuse me of doing. But the risk is real, and until we consider it, the world will not be prepared to do what is necessary to end the epidemic.

In 2012, a team of Canadian researchers proved that Ebola Zaire, the same virus that is causing the West Africa outbreak, could be transmitted by the respiratory route from pigs to monkeys, both of whose lungs are very similar to those of humans. Richard Preston’s 1994 best seller “The Hot Zone” chronicled a 1989 outbreak of a different strain, Ebola Reston virus, among monkeys at a quarantine station near Washington. The virus was transmitted through breathing, and the outbreak ended only when all the monkeys were euthanized. We must consider that such transmissions could happen between humans, if the virus mutates…."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/12/op...out-ebola.html

[kittygilchrist]

Ebola nurse Am​ber Vinson called CDC several times before flying - CBS News

Scathing report of pathetic inadequacy. It is not so much ebola To be feared. We have clowns in charge of everything.

[Lauren Sweeny]

Apathy , can be dangerous to you,your family and the community you live in. Aesop fable about the grasshopper and the ant reminds one that being prepared is better than having to suffer for lack of preparedness . Caution is understandable , but the growing numbers of Ebola cases and the inability to control its spread indicates an issue that should not be downplayed or ignored as many in TV are writing in these post. Posable or probable,are words that describe the situation here in Florida. The fact remains this state is a tourist destination,( parks,cruising,retirees families visiting ,the Northerners escaping bad weather, and lastly the holidays are coming with high travel)
I do not mind if I have to " eat my words" or suffer someone saying" We told you so.." if this situation does not spread. My opinion , It is fine for me to have hurt feelings then be dead!

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by kittygilchrist

Ebola nurse Am​ber Vinson called CDC several times before flying - CBS News

Scathing report of pathetic inadequacy. It is not so much ebola To be feared. We have clowns in charge of everything.

Well, that was definitive in that she called, so she is off the hook. What is wrong here is the 100.4 degree guideline. Who decided that, and why? If someone who worked with an ebola patient showed ANY fever, you would think they'd tell her to stay off an airplane.

And you have to wonder exactly how the CDC is "turning up the heat" on every hospital. Just saying "Be prepared" isn't going to cut it.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by BarryRX

Just a reminder that here in The Villages, more people have been arrested for having sex on a utility box than have died from Ebola in the entire country.

Barry. I don't understand your post.

AT THIS TIME, WE are relatively safe. But what if it was your daughter on that medical team, or what if you found you sat next to that nurse on her flight?

This is a disease if contracted has a 90% mortality rate. One that has no immunization and no treatment. The doctor that survived gave his blood to the woman that survived so it is possible that antibodies are the answer but to effectively make a treatment available to the masses is years away.

We have no crisis at this point, and that is the time to act, not when we have people entering hospitals with untrained teams and moving about spreading the disease before it becomes evident they are sick.

I am confused as to why those who are usually to the political left are the ones making light of it, joking about it and dismissing it.

Am I being not "cool" to worry about it? I sure as hell don't want to be "uncool".

Not directing this at you Barry, because I have the utmost respect for your intelligence, science and know you are both fair and kind.

I am really confused about why all people don't see that something unusual and difficult must be done NOW to save us from an epidemic of Ebola.

[billethkid]

GG your sentiments are right on target with most rational thinking people. Those who make light are either too politically bent to think on their own, don't know enough to be concerned, playing macho or just plain dumb!!!

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast

Not true. She is a licensed Registered Nurse in Texas according to the license verification here:

https://www.bon.texas.gov/licensure_verification.asp ("Verify License" Tab in right column)
(Name)
License Type: REGISTERED NURSE
Resides in: DALLAS TX 75206
Issued on: 8/22/2012
Licensure Status: CURRENT - 12/31/2014
Compact License: NO
Current Disciplinary Action: NONE

I couldn't open the link but thanks for the correction. At least 2 news sources were reporting what I stated.

[sunnyatlast]

Clowns in charge of everything is right. Now, 13 nurses from Cleveland Clinic and Metro health in Cleveland were on the infected nurse's flight on Friday, and there is another article about 5 nurses from Canton being on the flight too. They were put on paid leave by the hospitals.

What kind of a boob would approve that nurse to mingle at two airports, distant cities, and get on a jetliner twice?!?!

Cleveland Clinic, MetroHealth nurses on flight with Dallas Ebola patient, on paid leave | cleveland.com

[graciegirl]

Lisa Monaco - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I would prefer a person with medical expertise.

At this time we have an acting surgeon general. The previous one quit last year.

[Chi-Town]

An intersting and controlled response by Shep Smith regarding the Ebola situation: Non political also.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2KBfynW09I

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by kittygilchrist

Ebola nurse Am​ber Vinson called CDC several times before flying - CBS News

Scathing report of pathetic inadequacy. It is not so much ebola To be feared. We have clowns in charge of everything.

Isn't that the truth! I am amazed, appalled and angry at the sheer incompetence. Or is it malfeasance? I don't know but I do know, in military terms, it is totally UNSAT!!!

These jokers are playing with fire. The Secretary of State is in a wad over global warming WTF, yet his Department continues ... as of today ... to issue about 100 visas per day to people in the 3 affected West African countries.

The de facto message is ... sure, come on over to America. We'd love to have you. Ebola, no problem. We'll give you free medical care too, just like we gave Mr. Duncan ...something like $500K. If you're not happy with our free medical care, no worries, because you can sue the hospital if you want. No problem either if you lie on your form to get in either because, after all, we are the most compassionate (dumbest) people ever in world history. If I live in West Africa, and think I have Ebola, guess where I'm going catch a plane to?

This is either monumentally bad judgment, or an incapacitating political correctness type ideology. Either way, it impacts us the citizens.

Time to fire the top leaders and keep doing this until we get the right men/women in charge. We need strong, competent leadership. Oops I almost forgot ... we don't have that do we?

[sunnyatlast]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

An intersting and controlled response by Shep Smith regarding the Ebola situation: Non political also.

Shep Smith being "Non political"……LOL…

[sunnyatlast]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

So what did you think of the content of his message?

The content of his message is largely accurate and I like his independent style on FNC.

But I think it's too soon to definitively proclaim the virus cannot be gotten from inhaling or wiping onto one's face airborne droplets sneezed onto a person crammed into the plane seat next to the infected person. The virologists' article I cited before in this thread says this virus mutates genetically every time it enters and goes out of an infected person, in very "sloppy" fashion.

[sunnyatlast]

Fever is the screening process used to find people entering the country thru airlines, and is the indicator used to allow the nurse to travel by air. But this New England Journal of Medicine journal report shows that 13% of ebola victims did not have fevers.

Still too much doubt to say "nothing to see here, folks…..just move along…."

"For public health workers screening more than 1,000 air travelers who arrive each week in the United States from Ebola-stricken West Africa, one symptom above all others is supposed to signal danger: fever.

So long as an individual's temperature does not exceed 101.5 degrees and there are no visible symptoms of Ebola, health authorities say it should be assumed the person is not infectious.

Yet the largest study of the current outbreak found that in nearly 13% of "confirmed and probable" cases in Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea and elsewhere, those infected did not have fevers……"

Ebola research: Fever not a surefire sign of infection - LA Times

[TexaninVA]

General Kelly is the 4-Star, chief of US Southern Command ... he recently said the following:

"The Pentagon’s top commander in South America has warned that if Ebola surfaces in Central America or the Caribbean, there will be a stampede of people heading north across the Rio Grande to the U.S. to escape the disease.

“If it breaks out, it’s literally, ‘Katie bar the door,’ and there will be mass migration into the United States,” Marine General John Kelly, chief of the U.S. Southern Command, said Tuesday. “They will run away from Ebola, or if they suspect they are infected, they will try to get to the United States for treatment.”

General Warns of 'Mass Migration' to U.S. if Ebola Comes to Americas