[nhtexasrn]

And UP goes the rent which is ridiculous already.

[Hdljet]

Just buy a gasoline generator, place it by the car and run it all night.

[TeresaE]

When Henry Ford develop a system to mass produce the automobile, the government didn’t suddenly mandate their use over horses. The switch came about because it was consumer driven. The infrastructure followed. Consumer choice. This should be the same. If electric cars are the way of the future, it should be driven by consumer choice, never by government mandates. If the electric car reaches the usage that the doomsayers think it should, then the government, by the people for the people, can support it though investing in the infrastructure. Yes it’s a chicken and the egg challenge, but private innovations always trump government interference. In other words, if it’s meant to be, let it be our choice. Don’t shove it down our throats as the solution to our alleged ecological doom. After all, what if we have “the science” wrong.

[ithos]

All electric by 2035 is a fantasy. The policy would cause a major drop in standard of living and restrict the ability of the citizens to travel as freely as they do today.

And that is the true objective of eliminating gas powered POVs.

[oneclickplus]

Originally Posted by n8xwb

120 volt outlets do not provide the voltage/amperage necessary to charge an all electric vehicle overnight! My Chevy Volt takes about 12 hours of charging via 120 volts go from zero miles to 50miles.

My son just visited from Michigan with his electric vehicle. Plugging in at 120V reported 4+ days to an 80% charge. That's just ridiculous. We had to take it to the "Electrify America" commercial charger where he was able to get it up to 80% in about 30 minutes; this is called a level 3 charger. Four problems with this:

1) Not everyone is willing to wait 30 minutes to "fill the tank" when they can do it now in about 3 minutes.
2) The charging location is not convenient (not anywhere near "home").
3) The charge (pun intended) was $0.43/kw. For those unfamiliar, go check your electric bill for the rate you pay. It's no where near 43 cents.
4) Level 3 charging (very fast) is detrimental to the life span of the batteries. So, while you can do this, you can't do it every day without serious damage to the batteries.

Electric vehicles will NEVER replace gas /diesel vehicles. There isn't enough infrastructure. There isn't enough lithium in the world to make even a tiny fraction of the batteries that would be required. This is a wet pipe dream by the (self-censored so as not to create a "political" post).

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

Ahh....hate to break this to you....gas pumps need electricity to operate.

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Old school hand pump the fuel from ground storage into the glass pump cylinder then gravity feed your car. Or have the storage tanks above ground and straight gravity feed to car.
While I like the image of clean electric vehicles, they are not yet truly that clean or green. Someday, yes, but not yet.

Or use a simple generator to power the pumps... Methinks they might have enough fuel to power them...

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by oneclickplus

My son just visited from Michigan with his electric vehicle. Plugging in at 120V reported 4+ days to an 80% charge. That's just ridiculous. We had to take it to the "Electrify America" commercial charger where he was able to get it up to 80% in about 30 minutes; this is called a level 3 charger. Four problems with this:

1) Not everyone is willing to wait 30 minutes to "fill the tank" when they can do it now in about 3 minutes.
2) The charging location is not convenient (not anywhere near "home").
3) The charge (pun intended) was $0.43/kw. For those unfamiliar, go check your electric bill for the rate you pay. It's no where near 43 cents.
4) Level 3 charging (very fast) is detrimental to the life span of the batteries. So, while you can do this, you can't do it every day without serious damage to the batteries.

Electric vehicles will NEVER replace gas /diesel vehicles. There isn't enough infrastructure. There isn't enough lithium in the world to make even a tiny fraction of the batteries that would be required. This is a wet pipe dream by the (self-censored so as not to create a "political" post).

Funny that nobody ever talks about the cost to charge a battery. Obviously it should be part of the equation.

[Susan1717]

My other home is a large condo complex with 150 condos, all outside parking in large lot. I don’t see any possible way they could install 150 charging stations. I cannot imagine the cost for 150 charging stations or if the complex could handle extra electricity. We aren’t even allowed a tankless water heater because our building cannot handle the extra power.
Another situation to consider, when I lived in chicago, like many, we had only street parking. There is no way the thousands of people without garages or designated parking spots could charge their car.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Funny that nobody ever talks about the cost to charge a battery. Obviously it should be part of the equation.

It should be free!

[ECPRO]

Originally Posted by NoMoSno

Imagine trying to evacuate FL during a hurricane in an EV. Hope there won't be power failures along the way.

In a power failure gas stations can not pump gas.

[ffresh]

Originally Posted by ithos

All electric by 2035 is a fantasy. The policy would cause a major drop in standard of living and restrict the ability of the citizens to travel as freely as they do today.

And that is the true objective of eliminating gas powered POVs.

CONGRATULATIONS ... unlike many Americans, you have cracked the code.
Kudos

Fred

[Bikehike]

Maybe instead of parking meters on the street they will have electric chargers at every spot

[Blackbird45]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

What is the percentage of apartment renters can afford an electric car???
(a/k/a............Suppy & Demand)

Many companies, universities and people in their garage are trying to come up with a cheaper, more efficient battery. That is the most expensive part of an EV. Once that is accomplished EVs will be less expensive to produce then gas cars (Less working parts) and with all these car companies jumping into EV production the prices will drop.

[MandoMan]

Originally Posted by villagetinker

Interesting problem, and something I had never thought about. I have not seen any apartment type housing that advertised electric vehicle charging, and certainly not 'dedicated' for a specific owner. Enforcement of parking for electric vehicles only in public spaces seems to be s lost cause, and i am not sure any better for assigned spaces (think about handicapped parking).
Possibly someone from California may have some insight into this potential problem.

OP, if you are looking to move into the villages or the surrounding area, you will need to specifically ask to see if there are any arrangements for electric charging and then the arrangement s if someone uses 'your' spot.

Good luck with your quest.

These are significant questions. Eventually the problems will be solved, though perhaps in an unexpected way, such as a new discovery. There were similar problems when homes began to be electrified—where would all that electricity come from? How would it reach houses? There were similar problems as the telephone system had to be developed. And then, consider the decimation of the pay phone complex after cell phones became available. The rise of online shopping has decimated shopping centers and required far more delivery vehicles. Working from home has changed the nature of business in offices. Hospitals now use day-surgery whenever possible, and that has certainly changed many things in hospitals. We always find a way to make new things work after a period of chaos that follows the introduction of something new. We adjust.

[Byte1]

One of my neighbors with an EV paid more to charge her vehicle than I pay for a tank of gas, and it took a lot longer. Just saying.