[tvmurray]

My wife and I went to Vermont to enjoy the colors and cooler weather.
When we arrived the car rental company said they only had a Chevy Bolt EV. I tried to see if they had anything else and the answer was no.
We took off and when we crossed into Vermont we stopped at the welcome center and asked about charging stations and the guy laughed at us. He said he only had a list of 14 stations in the state.
We spent the the next day trying to go from charger to charger. 195 Mike range and over an hour to get to 80% charge. We lost two days watching the power display and could not focus on the scenery.
On day two we made it to Montpelier which was supposed to have 3 stations. 1st didn't work, second had unattended vehicle plugged in, and third was destroyed like someone took a hammer to it.
35 miles of charge left and 40 miles to nearest airport we took off, turned of radio and heater and pulled into car rental with 1 mile left.
Totally screwed 2 full days of vacation time. Don't fall for this EV crap. They are a joke and wasting millions of taxpayer dollars.

[Keefelane66]

Sometimes you might need to use Google instead of asking people with minimal knowledge
“In the last year, the number of EVs on the road has nearly doubled, from 6,000 to 10,000, and Vermont has added 55 charging stations, for a total of 396.
Sep 20, 2023

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Originally Posted by tvmurray

My wife and I went to Vermont to enjoy the colors and cooler weather.
When we arrived the car rental company said they only had a Chevy Bolt EV. I tried to see if they had anything else and the answer was no.
We took off and when we crossed into Vermont we stopped at the welcome center and asked about charging stations and the guy laughed at us. He said he only had a list of 14 stations in the state.
We spent the the next day trying to go from charger to charger. 195 Mike range and over an hour to get to 80% charge. We lost two days watching the power display and could not focus on the scenery.
On day two we made it to Montpelier which was supposed to have 3 stations. 1st didn't work, second had unattended vehicle plugged in, and third was destroyed like someone took a hammer to it.
35 miles of charge left and 40 miles to nearest airport we took off, turned of radio and heater and pulled into car rental with 1 mile left.
Totally screwed 2 full days of vacation time. Don't fall for this EV crap. They are a joke and wasting millions of taxpayer dollars.

there are 350 charging stations in Vermont according to drive electric Vermont with more coming on line monthly , Vermont has the highest per capital rate of public charging availability in the United States according to Drive Electric Vermont . I looked this up only because all my nieces and nephews ski in Vermont and drive their EV s up there from the Boston area. A simple search and you would have found a map with easy directions to all the chargers and no I don’t have one ,but facts are facts

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Originally Posted by Keefelane66

Sometimes you might need to use Google instead of asking people with minimal knowledge
“In the last year, the number of EVs on the road has nearly doubled, from 6,000 to 10,000, and Vermont has added 55 charging stations, for a total of 396.
Sep 20, 2023

I think the post was more agenda seeking then about the difficulty in charging

[Caymus]

Originally Posted by tvmurray

My wife and I went to Vermont to enjoy the colors and cooler weather.
When we arrived the car rental company said they only had a Chevy Bolt EV. I tried to see if they had anything else and the answer was no.
We took off and when we crossed into Vermont we stopped at the welcome center and asked about charging stations and the guy laughed at us. He said he only had a list of 14 stations in the state.
We spent the the next day trying to go from charger to charger. 195 Mike range and over an hour to get to 80% charge. We lost two days watching the power display and could not focus on the scenery.
On day two we made it to Montpelier which was supposed to have 3 stations. 1st didn't work, second had unattended vehicle plugged in, and third was destroyed like someone took a hammer to it.
35 miles of charge left and 40 miles to nearest airport we took off, turned of radio and heater and pulled into car rental with 1 mile left.
Totally screwed 2 full days of vacation time. Don't fall for this EV crap. They are a joke and wasting millions of taxpayer dollars.

Can Chevy Bolts use Tesla Stations?

[Two Bills]

Why would you accept a limited range car to tour with in the first place.
Surely the rental company or another location had a larger car more suitable to tour in?
You can barely get two people and purse in one of those things.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by tvmurray

We spent the the next day trying to go from charger to charger. 195 Mike range and over an hour to get to 80% charge. We lost two days watching the power display and could not focus on the scenery.
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A friend of mine bought a Tesla a few years ago (admittedly, chargers were more scarce then). When he finally got rid of it, it was primarily a result of his Therapist's advice. He told me he had "range anxiety" every day he owned the thing. It was so bad, he almost couldn't function.

He was an idiot to have bought the thing in the first place, knowing he spent most of his time "on the road".

Customer Satisfaction scores for EV's are abysmal. The major automakers have inventory backing up, because most everyone who wants an EV, has already bought one. Something has to give soon, as EV's simply aren't the answer.

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[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

A friend of mine bought a Tesla a few years ago (admittedly, chargers were more scarce then). When he finally got rid of it, it was primarily a result of his Therapist's advice. He told me he had "range anxiety" every day he owned the thing. It was so bad, he almost couldn't function.

He was an idiot to have bought the thing in the first place, knowing he spent most of his time "on the road".

Customer Satisfaction scores for EV's are abysmal. The major automakers have inventory backing up, because most everyone who wants an EV, has already bought one. Something has to give soon, as EV's simply aren't the answer.

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the poster was complaining about Vermont , , a state that seems to be doing a good job of building charger stations , that’s all the post was about

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Keefelane66

Sometimes you might need to use Google instead of asking people with minimal knowledge
“In the last year, the number of EVs on the road has nearly doubled, from 6,000 to 10,000, and Vermont has added 55 charging stations, for a total of 396.
Sep 20, 2023

Yep, that why EV production down. They found out that most don’t want them and market drying up causing them lose even more money.

[Dusty_Star]

Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com

there are 350 charging stations in Vermont according to drive electric Vermont with more coming on line monthly , Vermont has the highest per capital rate of public charging availability in the United States according to Drive Electric Vermont . I looked this up only because all my nieces and nephews ski in Vermont and drive their EV s up there from the Boston area. A simple search and you would have found a map with easy directions to all the chargers and no I don’t have one ,but facts are facts

Do your nieces & nephews drive Teslas? I wish them good luck. There is a difference between Teslas & Chevy Bolts. Additionally Vermont has steep inclines & cold weather, both of which affect EVs. I found independent complaints on Reddit about the Chevy Bolt range with others claiming 160 mile range. I also found the Chevy Bolt uses a type 2 charger & from Chargepoint, this: 'These locations typically have Level 2 stations that add about 25 miles of Range Per Hour' - which is incredibly damaging. 25 miles for an hour of charging, is that less than a half mile per minute? (This was specific to the Bolt & to Level 2 public chargers). It seems to me that the only use for a Bolt would be to charge it at home (overnight for about 10 hours) & then go pretty much nowhere. Hopefully work, shopping & doctors are all close by. It appears that there is an optional fast charger for the Bolt, but of course that option costs more money. So yes, all in all, I believe the OP was perfectly miserable.

[Dusty_Star]

Originally Posted by Dusty_Star

It seems to me that the only use for a Bolt would be to charge it at home (overnight for about 10 hours) & then go pretty much nowhere. Hopefully work, shopping & doctors are all close by.

P.S. I would like to thank you guys for making me do the research, I had no clue the Bolt was so gruesomely awful.

[Battlebasset]

EV solves no problem I have now, and creates more. Until the range, availability/functionality of charging stations, and reduced reliance on China for battery raw materials arrives and has been solidly in place for at least 10 years, I'm not giving up my ICE. Could be interested in a hybrid, but am concerned about the complexity of two drive systems.

Not against EV. I have an EV golf cart. Works great for the Villages with no gas/exhaust smell, noise, and instant power availability. Comes home every night with at least a 50% charge left, and full charge by morning.

But for my vehicle that I want to jump in and drive halfway across the country and not think about it? ICE is the only way to go now.

[Keefelane66]

The first EV by GM was extremely popular as a commuter vehicle which it was designed for. They developed leading edge battery which they sold to Cheveron Oil and shelved.
A documentary was made “ Who killed the Electric Car”
Available on TUBI for free other streaming sources $3.59 to $3.99
GM EV1 1996-199….

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com

the poster was complaining about Vermont , , a state that seems to be doing a good job of building charger stations , that’s all the post was about

Originally Posted by tvmurray

Totally screwed 2 full days of vacation time. Don't fall for this EV crap. They are a joke and wasting millions of taxpayer dollars.

It was?

[shut the front door]

There's a reason the automakers are pushing back against Biden.
"In a public letter to President Biden, 3,882 car dealers spread across the country are asking that his administration slow down its proposed regulations mandating the production and distribution of electric vehicles."
thestreet.com

They interviewed the dealership owner who drafted the letter and he said his dealerships sold 2 EVs last month and a couple hundred non evs. The lots are clogged with cars that nobody wants and it's costing dealers millions in their floor plan interest payments.