[Eclas]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

For those who think there is no global warming....

Earth briefly passed a feared global warming milestone.

Average global temperatures were more than 2 degrees Celsius (3.6 degrees Fahrenheit) above preindustrial times for the first time on Friday, data shows.

What it means: The climate is moving into uncharted territory after months of record warmth. A longer-term breach of this benchmark could have severe consequences.

I didn't know until reading this thread, that anyone still thinks GW is a hoax, I thought the debate was the cause, not the existence.

Global warming is not a hoax however man made global warming is total BS.

[dhdallas]

Originally Posted by mtdjed

I had a dream that there will be an Electric Vehicle that solves the range of miles problem, lack of charging stations, time of charging etc. The truck will be scheduled for 2025 intro. It will get about 700 miles range without a need for stopping.

It will have its own generator to keep the battery charged. The generator is to be called a milage extender. Of course, generators require power to work. The uniqueness of his concept is that a readily available fuel, gasoline, will be used. It is planned that a small tank of gas will be stored on the vehicle. (Perhaps 27 Gal).

Wouldn't it be great if dreams like this could become reality? Close down the oil fields, no more global warning.

Alas, only a dream. Starts to sound like a complicated hybrid. Hmmm!

Nobody is forcing you to buy an EV so why do you and so many others hate them and feel compelled to actively protest against them? Right now an EV is perfect as a second car for errands and short work commutes where you don't need to worry about available commercial charge stations. They are not yet ready for long road trips to to range limitations and lack of charging infrastructure but that will change eventually. You guys seem to hate anything that is positive for the environment. Fortunately your generation will be dead soon and but your children will inherit the polluted dying planet you created.

One last point: All of our problems with terrorists, wars and the Middle East are caused by our interference in Middle Eastern affairs due to our need for oil. Eliminate the need for oil and thus eliminate our presence in the region and the problems related to the Middle East will be a thing of the past.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I did that once earlier this year for one of these threads. The 97% (or was it 99%) is accurate. Of those papers that took a stand on climate change, 97% agreed that climate change was real and that man’s actions are adding to it.

Certainly, there are biologists (scientists) who have no opinion on climate change. They are neither part of the 97% nor the 3%. There are also climate scientists who have not taken a stand or have no opinion on the issue. They are neither part of the 97% nor the 3%. But according to the study, of those climate scientists expressing an opinion in published papers, 97% supported the idea that man was contributing to climate change.

Incorrect...

"This public discussion was started by Oreskes’ brief 2004 article, which included an analysis of 928 papers containing the keywords “global climate change.” The article says “none of the papers disagreed with the consensus position” of anthropogenic global warming. Although this article makes no claim to a specific number, it is routinely described as indicating 100% agreement and used as support for the 97% figure."

See the rest of the article here...

Fact Checking The Claim Of 97% Consensus On Anthropogenic Climate Change

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by dhdallas

Nobody is forcing you to buy an EV so why do you and so many others hate them and feel compelled to actively protest against them? Right now an EV is perfect as a second car for errands and short work commutes where you don't need to worry about available commercial charge stations. They are not yet ready for long road trips to to range limitations and lack of charging infrastructure but that will change eventually. You guys seem to hate anything that is positive for the environment. Fortunately your generation will be dead soon and but your children will inherit the polluted dying planet you created.

One last point: All of our problems with terrorists, wars and the Middle East are caused by our interference in Middle Eastern affairs due to our need for oil. Eliminate the need for oil and thus eliminate our presence in the region and the problems related to the Middle East will be a thing of the past.

Certain states (and the Fed Gubmint) are most certainly mandating (forcing) you to buy EVs... (see California...)

EPA’s New Electric Vehicle Mandate: Too Far, Too Fast | NADA

"Will electric cars be mandatory in California?

Yes. California is only requiring that all NEW cars sold in 2035 and beyond are zero-emission vehicles which includes battery electric vehicles, plug-in hybrid electric vehicles and fuel cell electric vehicles."

ca ev mandate - Google Search

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Incorrect...

"This public discussion was started by Oreskes’ brief 2004 article, which included an analysis of 928 papers containing the keywords “global climate change.” The article says “none of the papers disagreed with the consensus position” of anthropogenic global warming. Although this article makes no claim to a specific number, it is routinely described as indicating 100% agreement and used as support for the 97% figure."

See the rest of the article here...

Fact Checking The Claim Of 97% Consensus On Anthropogenic Climate Change

From the article you linked:

Cook is careful to describe his 2013 study results as being based on “climate experts.” Political figures and the popular press are not so careful. President Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry have repeatedly characterized it as 97% of scientists. Kerry has gone so far as to say that “97 percent of peer-reviewed climate studies confirm that climate change is happening and that human activity is largely responsible.” This is patently wrong, since the Cook study and others showed that the majority of papers take no position. One does not expect nuance in political speeches, and the authors of scientific papers cannot be held responsible for the statements of politicians and the media.

Given these results, it is clear that support among scientists for human-caused climate change is below 97%. Most studies including specialties other than climatologists find support in the range of 80% to 90%. The 97% consensus of scientists, when used without limitation to climate scientists, is false.

Which is what I wrote.

The author then goes on to say he disagrees with the methodology of the Cook study. I'm sure Cook and others disagree with his disagreement.

[Escape Artist]

Originally Posted by mtdjed

I had a dream that there will be an Electric Vehicle that solves the range of miles problem, lack of charging stations, time of charging etc. The truck will be scheduled for 2025 intro. It will get about 700 miles range without a need for stopping.

It will have its own generator to keep the battery charged. The generator is to be called a milage extender. Of course, generators require power to work. The uniqueness of his concept is that a readily available fuel, gasoline, will be used. It is planned that a small tank of gas will be stored on the vehicle. (Perhaps 27 Gal).

Wouldn't it be great if dreams like this could become reality? Close down the oil fields, no more global warning.

Alas, only a dream. Starts to sound like a complicated hybrid. Hmmm!

It already exists, it’s called a hybrid like a Prius. It’s a good common sense solution and compromise.

[DonnaNi4os]

Hybrids sound like the best alternative for what is available now. I just can’t wrap my head around an all electric vehicle. Don’t tell my daughter. She drives a Polestar and works on their marketing.

[Harold.wiser]

It's hard to believe the OP was serious. If the oil fields are shut down, where does his "small" 27 gallon tank of gas come from?
Also, this dream is exactly how train locomotives work now.
Keep dreaming and maybe you can invent a phone that accesses the internet and takes pictures 😅

[PjLyness1965]

Originally Posted by dhdallas

Nobody is forcing you to buy an EV so why do you and so many others hate them and feel compelled to actively protest against them? Right now an EV is perfect as a second car for errands and short work commutes where you don't need to worry about available commercial charge stations. They are not yet ready for long road trips to to range limitations and lack of charging infrastructure but that will change eventually. You guys seem to hate anything that is positive for the environment. Fortunately your generation will be dead soon and but your children will inherit the polluted dying planet you created.

One last point: All of our problems with terrorists, wars and the Middle East are caused by our interference in Middle Eastern affairs due to our need for oil. Eliminate the need for oil and thus eliminate our presence in the region and the problems related to the Middle East will be a thing of the past.

According to Biden administration all vehicles will be electric by 2035. So yes, we are in fact being forced to buy EV’s.

[biker1]

The all electric Tesla Model Y is the best selling car in the US and the world.

Originally Posted by DonnaNi4os

Hybrids sound like the best alternative for what is available now. I just can’t wrap my head around an all electric vehicle. Don’t tell my daughter. She drives a Polestar and works on their marketing.

[biker1]

Not true. Gasoline cars will be around for probably the next 30 years. You will see the percentage of new cars that are gasoline drop off to near zero but used gasoline cars will be around for some time. The Government may continue to provide incentives to buy an electric car, in much the same way that they provide incentives to buy a house.

Originally Posted by PjLyness1965

According to Biden administration all vehicles will be electric by 2035. So yes, we are in fact being forced to buy EV’s.

[Kstastny]

Originally Posted by mtdjed

I had a dream that there will be an Electric Vehicle that solves the range of miles problem, lack of charging stations, time of charging etc. The truck will be scheduled for 2025 intro. It will get about 700 miles range without a need for stopping.

It will have its own generator to keep the battery charged. The generator is to be called a milage extender. Of course, generators require power to work. The uniqueness of his concept is that a readily available fuel, gasoline, will be used. It is planned that a small tank of gas will be stored on the vehicle. (Perhaps 27 Gal).

Wouldn't it be great if dreams like this could become reality? Close down the oil fields, no more global warning.

Alas, only a dream. Starts to sound like a complicated hybrid. Hmmm!

So you believe oil is only for gasoline? Look around at all the items you use that is petroleum based.

[Keefelane66]

There is no Fereral mandate or Congress passed Bill to force the consumer to buy EV.
“ Federal Sustainability Plan requires federal agencies to transition the largest fleet in the world to all electric by acquiring 100 percent light-duty ZEVs annually by 2027 and acquiring 100 percent medium- and heavy-duty ZEVs annually by 2035.”

[huge-pigeons]

EV’s will take many decades to be a viable alternative to gas vehicles. A relative works for a company that has EV trucks for hauling, they need double the amount of vehicles to do what a diesel truck can do. Battery life and towing capacity are the main issues, plus you just can’t pull over and do a quick charge while a hired driver is sitting around for many hours unproductive while getting paid

[defrey12]

Originally Posted by metalic

Thank you for clarifying

I was listening to the 97% of scientists who accept climate change as fact, rather than the 3% in the pay of Big Oil - silly old me!

Looking forward to your future revelation that smoking is good for you

Yes, they accept climate change as a fact. And it is. BUT NOT for the reasons YOU and yours profess.