[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by jimbomaybe

Many private schools are an out growth of religious organizations, teachers who see teaching as a calling. Parental involvement. School choice and selective enrollment that the teachers unions have no use for, it puts school performance under scrutiny. My son went through a selective enrollment high school a place with both parents and student had a very deferent attitude from the usual public high school . The Washington post has an article on how GPAs were up and SAT scores were down, that is the answer of the public school systems dominated by the teacher unions.

Majority Teachers in class room not problem IT’s management especially superintendents that make 1/2 million year with 80% retirement packages which mostly unfunded, now shall we take about the agenda.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by jasamy2

Sadly, I agree 100%. Overindulgence of this generation of kids will hurt them more than the parents realize. How can kids understand they will have to work hard for anything they want as adults if everything comes so easily now?

Overindulgence of today's kids - who is overindulging them? THeir parents. Who taught those parents how to BE parents? THEIR parents. The buck stops with The Villages generation.

You created these parents, and now our country has to deal with the fallout.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by HORNET

Educated Dummies leading the School Systems

Maybe y'all shouldn't have raised all those educated dummies.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by villager7591

Parents want school choice because they don't agree with what teachers are teaching...IMHO

Parents are welcome to teach their own kids. Homeschooling and even "unschooling" is a thing, it's a valid educational option.

My mom - who was a public school teacher for more than 30 years, always used to say: if you don't like how someone is doing something, then get off your fat arse and do it yourself."

[Aces4]

[QUOTE=OrangeBlossomBaby;2371972]Overindulgence of today's kids - who is overindulging them? THeir parents. Who taught those parents how to BE parents? THEIR parents. The buck stops with The Villages generation.

You created these parents, and now our country has to deal with the fallout.[/QUOTE


Oh, right! It's the grandparents fault... now I've had my laugh of the day. I'd say guess again.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Parents are welcome to teach their own kids. Homeschooling and even "unschooling" is a thing, it's a valid educational option.

My mom - who was a public school teacher for more than 30 years, always used to say: if you don't like how someone is doing something, then get off your fat arse and do it yourself."

I know several home schooling parents and they are remarkable. I am concerned that a few books have been withheld from their children until after the age of 18 and there are no Narcan dispensers in their homes. Other than that, their children appear to be intelligent and thriving. Go figure.

[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by TheWarriors

Why is it called English as a Second language? How about English as your PRIMARY language! Assimilate or we are done. Diversity is overplayed, COMMONALITY IS OUR STRENGTH.

It is called counting. If a person knows two languages, the one they orignally learned is called their first language. The one they learned next is called...see if you can guess what comes after first.
Here is a hint, it comes before third and starts with s...

[Federspiel]

I have 2 grandkids in a Chattanooga Christian school and 2 grandkids in a Chicago public school.

The difference I starteling.

[DonnaNi4os]

My granddaughter in Ft Meyers told me that their teachers don’t even have a college degree. I thought that she surely was mistaken but my daughter confirmed. My grandson in Naples found that when they moved here 2 years ago that the curriculum is what he did in NJ the year prior.

[OhioBuckeye]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

The good news: FL is the second best in the nation. Bad news: The entire country has failing schools.

Why is this such a problem? Why are today's youth unable to read or do math at grade level? I know Covid caused a setback, but this was going on prior, and continues after.

I hate to say this but personally I think it’s our govt. that’s changing not the way our schools are changing! Yes it could be blamed on Covid.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Parents choosing not to emphasize the importance of a high school diploma, communities choosing to prep kids for things like agriculture, technology, and plumbing and not for the sciences and humanities (why should they need to learn how to read and write English, if they're going to spend the rest of their lives fixing toilets, networking computers, or landscaping?)

I have to say that the inference that blue collar workers can't read or write and their work is demeaning bothers me more than a little bit.

I had, for most of my working years, a white collar job. I cannot emphasize enough the ambition, skill and intelligence we have encountered with employees in the trades.

We just had our vehicle serviced this morning by a hardworking, interesting, soft-spoken gentleman. He has managed and operated his garage for many years without a college graduate standing by his shoulder telling him what to do and yet his work is top notch and reasonable. He has one employee and a large clientele. By the way, business has definitely slowed with inflation and people are postponing any work until absolutely necessary.

Just imagine, he accomplished all this with the prep of his high school education and no degree in the humanities. These blue collars workers are the salt of the earth that keep the world running. We have encountered so many individuals in the trades over the years that are bright, practical and sharp.

A little respect, please..

[Stu from NYC]

Our dept of education seems to have played a large part in failing schools

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by CybrSage

The teachers I know, and I know about a dozen in various states, all say it is due to the students running the classrooms. Teachers have no power to do anything but send the kid to the principal, the main punishment allowed to be given is to expel the kid, which is what they want...to be home all day. The teachers are also strongly encouraged to pass every kid regardless of learning level.
The kids know all this as well.
The main source of the problem is the parents. I have seen letters from parents that literally blame the teacher for the student cussing her out and threatening her. Even when a video shows the student was the aggressor.
Until the parents start to care, nothing will change.

IMO True for maybe 30%, few bad apples run the whole bushel for everyone. Not everybody can be brain surgeons or space X rocket scientist. But, that don’t mean they don’t have some type of potential skill. But, the system not skill bases, based on all to be brain surgeons. Then, you got 15% that know matter what you do it won’t make difference.

Another thing students really have no excuses, all they got to do in comment and learn. Federal government passes out student loans like candy. Us older generation didn’t have that luxury, we had to take any job available so we wasn’t mooches.

Majority don’t make good career choices and get worthless degrees and can get good paying job. They run up the student loan debt partying, taking spring breaks, buying electronics, and some new cars. Then when the can’t suck no more students loans and have get job then complain I can’t pay my 100K plus student loan debt. Well, guess what, they made bad choices and now suffer consequences. Rest of society has same debt responsibilities.

[maistocars]

The age of the smartphone and schools allowing kids to have them in class.

[JudyMonin]

The books that are being banned in school SHOULD BE BANNED.
Teaching children that you can change your sex if you want, at the k-6 level is not what schools should be teaching!
Talk about failing grades, this could possibly be part of the problem.