Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 1943204)

Electric cars? Guess what supplies the energy for electricity---it's not all electricity. The power needs something to run it and it isn't the windmills neither. Gas and coal are what run things ultimately. Don't fall for the rhetoric that we're running out of gas. I've heard actual experts say there is plenty and the U.S. has enough without relying on other countries.

Originally Posted by thelegges (Post 1942988)

So the pipeline was hacked, and guess it has started the hunt for gas before the prices go up.

So going to Disney tomorrow, tank at 1/4. Sams, had 6-7 cars per pump. Every station had line’s of cars waiting to get in. I traveled down to WaWa’s, hoping less of a line. Each car only took less than 5-10 minutes. Lawn guys were the only ones getting more than 5 gallons of gas. Who sits in a line for 15 minutes for a few gallons of gas. It’s the TP mentality all over again.

Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 1943258)

Socialism, a conspiracy to push the electric car agenda, the Russians?? Why don’t we put the blame squarely where it belongs with the pipeline company who has not heeded any of the warning to protect there system from something like this . We have seen these things before from power companies out west that don’t take the proper measures to protect massive fires , In Huston again a failure of computers causing so much hardship recently, and why does this happen it’s because all these companies can pass there mistakes on to the consumers that are suffering there mistakes

Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1943270)

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JUST heard on Radio news - the affected Colonial pipeline company was using OUTDATED MICROSOFT software to protect againt hackers. Smart.... if confirmed, they (private company) deserve the loss due to lack of due diligence. But.... now the eastern half of the country 'suffers'. Shame.
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Originally Posted by 44Apple (Post 1943286)

Gas Buddy reports 1,000 stations in the Southeast have no gas. I would say a major panic has been provoked and by our "friends", the Russians.

Originally Posted by JoelJohnson (Post 1943019)

The pipeline affected doesn't go through Florida.

Originally Posted by noslices1 (Post 1943209)

Yeah, you could actually buy a trailer and mount a generator on it so you can charge your batteries while you are driving on long trips. The only reason you would need to stop is, wait for it, ........GAS to fuel the generator. Or, you could just drive 300 miles a day and search for a charging station to charge overnight and take about ten days to get to California.

Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1943270)

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JUST heard on Radio news - the affected Colonial pipeline company was using OUTDATED MICROSOFT software to protect againt hackers. Smart.... if confirmed, they (private company) deserve the loss due to lack of due diligence. But.... now the eastern half of the country 'suffers'. Shame.
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Originally Posted by davephan (Post 1943308)

That’s not surprising! The incompetent management at many corporations try to cut back, and “save” money by defunding IT security. That’s similar to incompetent politicians defunding the police.

T.J. Maxx foolishly used WEP for their WiFi security, long after WEP could easily be hacked in less than one minute, by a hacker in their parking lot. As a result of the management incompetence and reckless disregard for IT security, thousands of customers credit card information was stolen by the hacker.

If anyone is fired, it probably would be the general IT workers, instead of the incompetent and reckless management, who are responsible for the security breach that could have been easily prevented.

Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1943253)

At Walmart neighborhood store cars were five deep getting mostly 4 and 5 gallons. Villagers among the first to panic. No surprise...

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1943316)

A 12 gallon minimum purchase will help end that behavior.

Originally Posted by noslices1 (Post 1943209)

Yeah, you could actually buy a trailer and mount a generator on it so you can charge your batteries while you are driving on long trips. The only reason you would need to stop is, wait for it, ........GAS to fuel the generator. Or, you could just drive 300 miles a day and search for a charging station to charge overnight and take about ten days to get to California.

Originally Posted by noslices1 (Post 1943209)

Yeah, you could actually buy a trailer and mount a generator on it so you can charge your batteries while you are driving on long trips. The only reason you would need to stop is, wait for it, ........GAS to fuel the generator. Or, you could just drive 300 miles a day and search for a charging station to charge overnight and take about ten days to get to California.

Originally Posted by tonycirocco@me.com (Post 1943323)

You don't know what you're talking about.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1943316)

A 12 gallon minimum purchase will help end that behavior.

Originally Posted by Tmarkwald (Post 1943318)

Except some of these small cars only have 10 gallon gas tanks.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1943316)

A 12 gallon minimum purchase will help end that behavior.

Originally Posted by Tmarkwald (Post 1943318)

Except some of these small cars only have 10 gallon gas tanks.

Originally Posted by Joe V. (Post 1943003)

15 minutes ago I filled up at Chevron. No one but me was at the pumps. Across the street Circle K had their pumps on and no one was waiting there either.

Originally Posted by davephan (Post 1943308)

That’s not surprising! The incompetent management at many corporations try to cut back, and “save” money by defunding IT security. That’s similar to incompetent politicians defunding the police.

T.J. Maxx foolishly used WEP for their WiFi security, long after WEP could easily be hacked in less than one minute, by a hacker in their parking lot. As a result of the management incompetence and reckless disregard for IT security, thousands of customers credit card information was stolen by the hacker.

If anyone is fired, it probably would be the general IT workers, instead of the incompetent and reckless management, who are responsible for the security breach that could have been easily prevented.

Originally Posted by Fairway Cruises (Post 1943117)

The pipeline goes from Houston to Jersey (5550 some miles) It supplies refineries along the way and for all the eastern seaboard affecting all southern states supplies. if the tankers can't fill up there be no deliveries be that Florida or anywhere else. There is another pipeline of less significance but that would not cope with demand.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1943342)

So you'd want to ensure that the gas-guzzling pickups and SUVs get plenty of gas, but the people who have compact cars that actually use less gas per mile, just run out (since many of them only have 10 gallon tanks). And that also means no lawnmowers, no tractor-mowers, no golf carts, no gas trimmers, no 2-5-gallon plastic gas containers unless you risk an explosion in your garage by storing 3-5 of them.

I'm thinking more of a 10-gallon MAXIMUM purchase for anyone coming in with a passenger vehicle, golf cart, pickup, with or without a plastic gas container.

Commercial vehicles and RVs can have a 20-gallon maximum.

The object is to use LESS gas, not hoard more.

Originally Posted by airdale2 (Post 1943126)

Yeah Tesla, until the electric grid goes down also !

Originally Posted by mlmarr1 (Post 1943141)

This whole planned event is called creed.. another socialism card game...get ready more is on the way..

Originally Posted by davephan (Post 1943146)

I never let my gas tank get much below half a tank. I’ve done that for almost 50 years. Decades ago, back in the high school days, I filled up the top half of my gas tank. Many fellow students that drove filled up the bottom half of their gas tank, from totally empty, to half full.

The only time I ever ran out of gas was with my first car, which was a piece of junk, a 67 Ford station wagon. It ran out of gas during the test drive, right next to the used car dealer, right in front of a gas station!

I remember decades ago, when the price of gasoline was 26 to 28 cents per gallon. Sometimes there were long lines. I’d fill up at the gas station across the street for 30 cents a gallon. Paying a quarter more to fill up wasn’t a big deal decades ago, to avoid the long gas lines.

For decades, I fill up when my tank gets down to half full. Very frequently these days, I fill up when I get down below 3/4 full, or about 100 to 150 miles on the gas tank. I always zero the trip odometer when filling up, so I know how many miles have been driven since the last fill up.

Last year, during the rioting in the Twin Cities, in Minnesota, I was at the gas station to fill up my half full lawn mower gas can. My car’s gas tank was already nearly full at the time. Another person and I at the gas station discovered that the gas station was closed in the afternoon. There was a sign on the gas station door, that it was closed due to “Social Disorder”, in other words, it was closed due to the threat of rioting. The other person at the gas station had a nearly empty gas tank, and he didn’t know if he had enough gas left to drive to another gas station!

In my view, running your gas tank is irresponsible! You need to keep enough gas in your tank for unexpected emergency situations. It’s not that much of a hassle to wait in line at Costco or Sam’s Club for gasoline, especially if you’re retired, when you have plenty of free time in your life. You can always check emails and surf the web on your cellphone while you’re in line.

Decades ago, many private pilots ended up running out of gasoline and landed on some of the Twin Cities freeways! This happened multiple times, because the pilots did not maintain enough reserve gas supply in their gas tank. The FAA changed the rules, so if a pilot runs out of fuel, and ends up having to land on a road instead of an airport, they lose their pilot’s license forever. After that rule change, small aircraft no longer landed on the roads because they ran out of gasoline! Maybe you should lose your automobile driver’s license for a year if you run out of gas. Then people would be more responsible.

In today’s world, it’s really irresponsible to let your gas tank get too low. There could be a pipeline computer attack, because the pipeline company management is irresponsible, and refuses to spend money on IT security. Or, there could be an unexpected war in the Middle East, or some other unexpected cause for there to be panic, and a “run” on gas stations.

It’s much better if you are property prepared for the unexpected, by always maintaining enough reserve supply of gasoline in your tank.

Originally Posted by Gunny2403 (Post 1943165)

Owned a new Tesla Y for 9 weeks. Couldn’t wait to get rid of it! Crappy build.