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RICH1 05-12-2021 11:09 AM

We, the consumer can control the price of fuel, if we stuck together!

I used my Peloton to run to the gas station with my 5 gallon gas can !

Lil GTO 05-12-2021 11:14 AM

I owned a Texaco station in Pompano Beach FL at that time and I could pump my monthly allotment in 3 days if I’d have let it happen. I limited to 5 gallons per vehicle no gas cans and was open 6:30AM - 9:00AM closed until 3PM opened at 3PM- 7:00PM

That’s what these people that are gasoline vendors need to do now just like one pkg of toilet paper per customer.

Too many scared panic ridden people in this world period.

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Originally Posted by rmd2 (Post 1943185)
I remember the Carter years in Maryland when I got up at 5 am to wait in line in my specified day for a hour to get 5 gallons of gas which I needed to get to work. This was in the middle of winter with no heat in the car (couldn't run the car while waiting because I needed every ounce of gas I could get).


Lil GTO 05-12-2021 11:15 AM

[Exactly,

At least we did when I owned my station down south

QUOTE=ron32162;1943193]In Florida we get 90% of our gas from the Gulf coast refineries by Tanker Trucks not the pipeline that was affected.[/QUOTE]

Lil GTO 05-12-2021 11:19 AM

Trust me my wife has worked for Exxonmobil at the top for 20 years we have all the oil we need and beyond but when there’s no profit in pulling it out of the ground it won’t get done.




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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 1943204)
Electric cars? Guess what supplies the energy for electricity---it's not all electricity. The power needs something to run it and it isn't the windmills neither. Gas and coal are what run things ultimately. Don't fall for the rhetoric that we're running out of gas. I've heard actual experts say there is plenty and the U.S. has enough without relying on other countries.


Lil GTO 05-12-2021 11:24 AM

I love this post and all it stands for. Thank you for having the guts to post it. The world needs more people like you.


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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1943237)
It's not rhetoric. It's propaganda, conspiracy theories, and flat out lies. Certain extremists are using the Pipeline hack as justification to stir the pot - not just stir it, but add incendiaries and light the brew on fire and watch the explosion.

Not only are we not running out of gas, but we have lots that just can't be moved at the moment because of the pipeline hack. The gas is right there. And they're getting it out to the states it normally gets to, but the process is slower at the moment while they investigate the hack.

Meanwhile, Florida continues to be served exactly as they have been served all along. But idiots in Florida are believing the propaganda and conspiracy nonsense (go ahead, tell me that shocks and surprises you, I dare ya)...and hoarding all the gas they can get. Plastic gas containers are selling out at Lowes and Home Depot.

And just like the toilet paper stupidity, the hoarders will happily sell you their 5-gallon container of gas - for $200.


karostay 05-12-2021 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe C. (Post 1943243)
Is it fabricated?? Just another ploy to get us to change our minds to accept electric transportation? Something's fishy here....

Just 2x4 and 2x6 lumber in general
Manufactured shortage

Lil GTO 05-12-2021 11:29 AM

Exactly I lived through the debacle in Houston recently and luckily our apartment is literally across the street from a hospital and a fire station and guess what no loss of power or water throughout the situation for us but millions were without both for weeks and still repairing at gouged prices because shortage of materials and labor to make the repairs needed.


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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 1943258)
Socialism, a conspiracy to push the electric car agenda, the Russians?? Why don’t we put the blame squarely where it belongs with the pipeline company who has not heeded any of the warning to protect there system from something like this . We have seen these things before from power companies out west that don’t take the proper measures to protect massive fires , In Huston again a failure of computers causing so much hardship recently, and why does this happen it’s because all these companies can pass there mistakes on to the consumers that are suffering there mistakes


Lil GTO 05-12-2021 11:31 AM

Just moving here from Houston and went through it and like your sister our apartment complex is literally across the street from a hospital so no loss and since I had a 2 year protected price contract with the power company I paid no extra.


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Originally Posted by Tmarkwald (Post 1943265)
yeah, that is correct. Texas wanted deregulation and to control their own destiny so they disconnected from the grid. It took them weeks to fix the problems - My sister in Houston never lost power as she is on a protected grid with a hospital but still got a 2500 charge from the power company as everyone shared in the 'experience'. crazy


Lil GTO 05-12-2021 11:38 AM

Sorry no gas cans period. That’s what I did in the crises of 80 when I owned my stations and if they didn’t like it they could drive by and get in line elsewhere.

Take your vehicle home and syphon what you need for your lawn mower from it.


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Originally Posted by davephan (Post 1943331)
That’s easy to deal with a minimum purchase. Just take a five gallon empty gas can or two with you to the gas station!


Topspinmo 05-12-2021 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1943090)
Tesla! Oh yeah baby!

No Ford lightning F150 I can power my house from it.

Lil GTO 05-12-2021 11:47 AM

That is the big dilemma how to get people to stick together luckily your peloton unlike all the others can travel instead of stationary like all the others are LOL.


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Originally Posted by RICH1 (Post 1943391)
We, the consumer can control the price of fuel, if we stuck together!

I used my Peloton to run to the gas station with my 5 gallon gas can !


Lil GTO 05-12-2021 11:49 AM

Exactly scare the hell out of those old folks (of which I’m one) so they’ll come running to big brother for help.


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Originally Posted by karostay (Post 1943405)
Just 2x4 and 2x6 lumber in general
Manufactured shortage


Lil GTO 05-12-2021 11:53 AM

Many F-150 owners in Houston did exactly that in our recent power outage.

Leave it to Ford to be first to offer that option on their #1 selling trucks.

The next update on truck architecture will see that offered in every brand.



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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1943418)
No Ford lightning F150 I can power my house from it.


OrangeBlossomBaby 05-12-2021 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lil GTO (Post 1943414)
Sorry no gas cans period. That’s what I did in the crises of 80 when I owned my stations and if they didn’t like it they could drive by and get in line elsewhere.

Take your vehicle home and syphon what you need for your lawn mower from it.

There are landscaping companies that can't just drive their tractors to the nearest gas station and fill up. They use gas cannisters. Remember we have deed restrictions - and most residents of the Villages don't own a lawnmower. So they are dependent on landscaping companies or "Jimbob next door who will mow my lawn too if I make dinner for him once a week."

Aloha1 05-12-2021 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by forebubba (Post 1943161)

That makes no sense

Think about it.

davephan 05-12-2021 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lil GTO (Post 1943414)
Sorry no gas cans period. That’s what I did in the crises of 80 when I owned my stations and if they didn’t like it they could drive by and get in line elsewhere.

Take your vehicle home and syphon what you need for your lawn mower from it.

I already thought of that solution in case no gas cans are allowed. Simply syphon the gasoline into five gallon gas cans at home, before going to the gas station. Of course, there’s a fire hazard storing five gallon cans of a gasoline in your garage.

The US has gone downhill fast since we were energy independent only a year ago. Hostile actors are emboldened to attack the US now, with no consequences.

rustyp 05-12-2021 12:35 PM

I had to go from TV to Leesburg this morning around 8 AM . Returned to TV around 11 AM. Passed many gas stations. No lines. Plenty of action at the pumps but that the extent of it.

Two Bills 05-12-2021 01:04 PM

One thing this panic buying proves, is you do not need an army to destroy the USA, or any western nation.
Just create a panic, and the population will tear itself to pieces!

Sherry8bal 05-12-2021 01:34 PM

This is more of typical VILLAGES panicking. Every time they think something is going to be "short", everyone runs out like chickens with their head cut off buying up everything. VILLAGERS are creating the gas shortage for Florida which is just plain stupid.

billethkid 05-12-2021 01:56 PM

Stories of folks topping off their mower cans....topping of their car every time they go out.....is what creates the lines.

In some area like in North Carolina my grand daughter said their stations have been out of gas since early yesterday.

We have an RV trip planned for next week for 10 days....itsa diesel...I talked to Pilot/Flying J corporate this afternoon. All their stores "have product" (gasoline) and diesel is not an issue.

NoMoSno 05-12-2021 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lil GTO (Post 1943414)
Sorry no gas cans period. That’s what I did in the crises of 80 when I owned my stations and if they didn’t like it they could drive by and get in line elsewhere.

Take your vehicle home and syphon what you need for your lawn mower from it.

mmm...cars have had anti-siphon devices installed for years.
Would have to use the golf cart as a gas can.

Ben Franklin 05-12-2021 02:15 PM

No, it's not a conspiracy. It's not socialism. We never seem to blame the corporation who wanted to save money, and had a way, way outdated, Microsoft software protection system, that was useless. And then there are Floridians who created their own gas shortage by rushing out to fill up when we don't get our gas from Colony pipeline.

We don't need fossil fuels to charge batteries. Solar panels and wind can do that. Technology is changing so rapidly and people are so far behind in understanding it. I'm befuddled why there isn't more solar in the "sunshine" state.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 05-12-2021 02:57 PM

Was on my way to cleaners in wildwood circle k on 466a took 5 minutes to put a little over half a tank in . I was going to wait till tomorrow figuring by then the hoarders would get tired of topping there tanks up 3 times , but it was just as easy today

MDLNB 05-12-2021 03:07 PM

Needed to pick up a few items at Pubix today so I swung by the Shell station to fill up. Down below half a tank soooo. Anyway, all the pumps were closed. Nada, none, no gas there. Oh well.

Will trade TP for gasoline........:gc: Looks like the golf cart will start seeing a lot of mileage on it.

Stu from NYC 05-12-2021 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben Franklin (Post 1943475)
No, it's not a conspiracy. It's not socialism. We never seem to blame the corporation who wanted to save money, and had a way, way outdated, Microsoft software protection system, that was useless. And then there are Floridians who created their own gas shortage by rushing out to fill up when we don't get our gas from Colony pipeline.

We don't need fossil fuels to charge batteries. Solar panels and wind can do that. Technology is changing so rapidly and people are so far behind in understanding it. I'm befuddled why there isn't more solar in the "sunshine" state.

Are you allowed to be befuddled in the villages.

Circle K on 466A had gas but lots of cars waiting for it.

thelegges 05-12-2021 03:17 PM

Just returned from Disney, station on property, had gas hardly anyone waiting. Price was the same I paid in TV. Driving to Gainesville tomorrow so will check as we travel to VA.

Joe C. 05-12-2021 06:20 PM

I understand the Village mentality in hoarding TP, paper towels or gas. They want to stock up and then get back in the bubble and just weather the storm. It’s the easiest thing for us old retirees to do. And probably the best thing to do.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-12-2021 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ptmckiou (Post 1943159)
Pipeline is suppose to be back on line by this weekend.

It's already up, as of earlier today. Thanks to all the hoarding though, millions of people who would normally only get gas when they were running low, ran low, and now can't get any gas. There will be people who can't get to work, along the east coast, because they depend on their cars. There will be Uber drivers who might have given those workers a ride, except THEY're out of gas too.

Landscape companies who rely on gasoline to power their equipment, might have to tell a few of their customers "sorry - no gas, can't mow your lawn this week."

This is mostly because of hoarders. Especially in Florida.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-12-2021 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1943502)
Needed to pick up a few items at Pubix today so I swung by the Shell station to fill up. Down below half a tank soooo. Anyway, all the pumps were closed. Nada, none, no gas there. Oh well.

Will trade TP for gasoline........:gc: Looks like the golf cart will start seeing a lot of mileage on it.

You can get gas for the golf cart at the Villages Golf Cars. Also the Wawa on 441 near Walmart and Aldi's has ethanol-free gas and 93 octane gas. They're all out of everything else.

tophcfa 05-12-2021 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1943561)
You can get gas for the golf cart at the Villages Golf Cars. Also the Wawa on 441 near Walmart and Aldi's has ethanol-free gas and 93 octane gas. They're all out of everything else.

Good news, when I head north I will be bringing 20 gallons of ethanol-free gas with me. Not hoarding, just because you can't buy ethanol-free gas in Massachusetts and I am sick of cleaning out carburetors that have been gummed up with ethanol in my chain saws, leaf blowers, weed wacker, and generator. I will never figure out why millions of people are starving in this world and our idiotic government determined that we need to add corn based ethanol to our gas. Go figure?

John41 05-12-2021 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lil GTO (Post 1943401)
Trust me my wife has worked for Exxonmobil at the top for 20 years we have all the oil we need and beyond but when there’s no profit in pulling it out of the ground it won’t get done.

Fracking is what allowed old reservoirs become profitable but now than has been banned.

Nucky 05-12-2021 09:30 PM

Hey Ma! Wasn’t we in energy products up to our nippies just a short time ago? What happened? Lol

Astron 05-12-2021 11:04 PM

Evidence ?
 
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Originally Posted by mlmarr1 (Post 1943141)
This whole planned event is called creed.. another socialism card game...get ready more is on the way..

Is this an opinion, or do you have real evidence that this hack has any thing to do with “socialism card game”?

nick demis 05-13-2021 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by oneclickplus (Post 1943295)
Well, that's a bit disingenuous. No, it doesn't go "through" Florida. But, it does indeed supply Florida.

Florida Gov. Declares State of Emergency Due to Colonial Pipeline Shutdown – NBC 6 South Florida

You have gone the other way in giving fake news. SOUTHERN FLORIDA is not dependent on that pipeline at all. so the true story is that the problems we are suffering here in The Villages is being artificially created by the media and fearmongers.

davephan 05-13-2021 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1943270)
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JUST heard on Radio news - the affected Colonial pipeline company was using OUTDATED MICROSOFT software to protect againt hackers. Smart.... if confirmed, they (private company) deserve the loss due to lack of due diligence. But.... now the eastern half of the country 'suffers'. Shame.
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I heard that the Colonial Pipeline Company was using the email program Microsoft Exchange, instead of Microsoft Outlook or some other email program. Microsoft Exchange was very vulnerable to hackers, and the company refused to upgrade the email program. This was probably the management of the company that made the totally reckless decision to not upgrade the email software, probably to save money.

I heard that the company paid the ransom. I also heard that the Federal government said that it’s a private company, and that they could pay the ransom if they wanted to do that.

So, it appears that there’s no consequences to the management of the company. The Federal government seems like it’s not interested in going after the bad actors.

But from the perspective of someone that has only a quarter of a gas tank less, that’s going to run empty soon, why can’t you wait a few minutes longer in line?

You wait in line at the Tax Collector’s Office, you wait in line to check out at stores, you wait in line to exit Costco and Sam’s Club stores. If you’re going to a Disney park, most of the time there, you’re waiting in lines. Just read the email or surf the web with your cellphone while you’re waiting in the line at the gas station. If you’re retired, you have plenty of extra time to wait in lines!

retiredguy123 05-13-2021 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by nick demis (Post 1943627)
You have gone the other way in giving fake news. SOUTHERN FLORIDA is not dependent on that pipeline at all. so the true story is that the problems we are suffering here in The Villages is being artificially created by the media and fearmongers.

I thought The Villages was in central Florida.

Tmarkwald 05-13-2021 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1943590)
Fracking is what allowed old reservoirs become profitable but now than has been banned.

Fracking is not banned everywhere.
Some states have banned it, but the majority have not..

Fracking is not banned in Florida, for instance, but once in awhile someone tries...
Fracking ban proposal re-emerges in Florida

This article is 2 years old, but is an interesting read:
Why A Ban On Fracking Will Never Happen

stadry 05-13-2021 05:29 AM

evidently this admin wasn't up to the challengereckless decision to not upgrade the email software, probably to save money.

I heard that the company paid the ransom. I also heard that the Federal government said that it’s a private company, and that they could pay the ransom if they wanted to do that.

So, it appears that there’s no consequences to the management of the company. The Federal government seems like it’s not interested in going after the bad actors.

But from the perspective of someone that has only a quarter of a gas tank less, that’s going to run empty soon, why can’t you wait a few minutes longer in line?

You wait in line at the Tax Collector’s Office, you wait in line to check out at stores, you wait in line to exit Costco and Sam’s Club stores. If you’re going to a Disney park, most of the time there, you’re waiting in lines. Just read the email or surf the web with your cellphone while you’re waiting in the line at the gas station. If you’re retired, you have plenty of extra time to wait in lines![/QUOTE]

dewilson58 05-13-2021 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1943632)
I thought The Villages was in central Florida.

We were demoted so we had to move.

bonrich 05-13-2021 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1943563)
Good news, when I head north I will be bringing 20 gallons of ethanol-free gas with me. Not hoarding, just because you can't buy ethanol-free gas in Massachusetts and I am sick of cleaning out carburetors that have been gummed up with ethanol in my chain saws, leaf blowers, weed wacker, and generator. I will never figure out why millions of people are starving in this world and our idiotic government determined that we need to add corn based ethanol to our gas. Go figure?

Good Lord! You are a fire bomb on wheels. Please drive carefully, you do not want to be in an accident, or rear-ended by another vehicle. Clean the carburetors, it's safer!!


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