[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by npwalters

When a person graduates from high school, my advice to them is to go to college and get a 4-year degree. Anyone can get a degree, even those who are not very intelligent.



I fear that the bolded statement is becoming truer every day. Many colleges have lowered their standards in order to be inclusive. High schools are pumping out graduates that can barely read (my wife was a HS teacher for many years). Yet a "not very intelligent" person in a position that actually needs a college degree is destined to fail.

There is a large segment of the population that can be successful in a trade. They will probably be happier too.

It depends on what the position is. Unfortunately, if you use your degree to get a Government job, it is almost impossible to fail. And, Government jobs just keep increasing in number. The Government handles incompetence by hiring more people.

[John Mayes]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

College tuition has been skyrocketing much longer than the last 10 years...

College football coaches get paid "exactly" what they are worth... They get paid what the market will bear. Plus, most of them run programs that actually make money for the schools and fund the other sports programs than make nothing...

It the GOVERNMENT that caused college tuition to spiral. They keep increasing the amount of $$$ you can borrow and, by coincidence, college tuition goes up by that very same amount, year after year... Color me surprised...

Military enlistment is down. WAY down...

Oh, yeah, one more thing.... GREED! Everybody drink!

Totally agree. College loans have turned into a huge scam. There’s absolutely no accountability or discipline at universities to control the outrageous tuition and fee increases.

[npwalters]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

It depends on what the position is. Unfortunately, if you use your degree to get a Government job, it is almost impossible to fail. And, Government jobs just keep increasing in number. The Government handles incompetence by hiring more people.

Having been a government employee for more than 15 years....it depends. We did not renew the contract for quite a few of those that were just completing their first year. After that the only real solution was to move them somewhere else. We did that too. The organization I was part of was all intelligent type A personalities.

There are places in "the government" where one only has to show up. However, your statement is far too general.

[Whitley]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

When a person graduates from high school, my advice to them is to go to college and get a 4-year degree. Anyone can get a degree, even those who are not very intelligent. And with proper planning, you don't need to go deeply into debt. But recently, some people are promoting the idea to skip college and to learn a trade, like welding or plumbing. It is interesting that most of these people already have college degrees, like Mike Rowe, who is always promoting trade schools. I don't have anything against Mike Rowe, but he has a net worth of $30 million, that he didn't earn by being a welder. With a college degree, you will always have more opportunities to get a higher paying job, that does not require hard work, than someone with no degree. Just my opinion.

Problem today is the cost (government backed loans resulted in my alma mater going from 9,000 to 47,000 a year), and what is being taught. Forty years ago the non core courses offered would be business ethics, philosophy, negotiations and unions. Today it is gender studies. We were taught from grade school that the color of a persons skin or the accent they had did not matter. Today we have black graduation, gay prom, minority study hall, indigenous food hall. I agree that College was a great opportunity to sharpen your skills and knowledge while granting a few more years to mature. Today it is a way to be bombarded with socialist theory and run up a high bill.

[threeonemiles@outlook.com]

Originally Posted by oldtimes

So if everybody goes to college who is going to do the hard work?

You will go into debt big time.

[unialimon]

Went in the 70's and saw it was just brain washing then. Went and got a real job and now live debt free in the Villages. As for government jobs if you are a minority you probably get one, otherwise forget it.