[dewilson58]

Not sure how long this thread will last, but here I go:




Should trained teachers be able to carry a gun in schools???




Hate to at this point, but I would support trained teachers carrying to protect my children / grandchildren.

[Kenswing]

I've thought about this a lot and am very hesitant.

Training sounds great but to actually become proficient in a combat situation takes a whole lot more than sending someone to a weekend class. How much training is the school willing to provide? How much training are the teachers willing to go through?

Will the teachers be indemnified for their actions when they screw up?

Most of the schools in the area I live have been somewhat hardened. Meaning you have to go through a door or gate to gain access. They also have at least one Sheriff Deputy on campus during school hours.

I think in some cases where a teacher might be a vet or former LEO it might work. But I'm still skeptical on whether teachers can actually receive adequate training and maintain the level of competence required to perform when the SHTF..

[retiredguy123]

I don't see any reason to modify the gun laws for schools. Just enforce the laws equally for everyone throughout the state. Creating gun free zones or special rules for schools is a mistake, especially creating "gun free" zones.

My fear would be keeping them away from the kids.

[anothersteve]

In the words of those that want to take guns and the Second Amendment away;
"if it saves the life of just one child".
The same can be said for arming teachers and faculty.

As to this;
"They also have at least one Sheriff Deputy on campus during school hours."
How'd that work at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School?

As per the new Florida (passed) legislation;
"Under the program, teachers would need to pass a 144-hour training course before they could be armed. Employees at schools in 40 of the state's 67 counties have already either enrolled in that course or plan to do so."

"By law, school guardians must undergo a psychological evaluation and complete at least 144 hours of training, including 104 hours focused on firearm use. The remaining 40 hours are split between trainings on diversity, legal issues, defensive tactics and active shooter situations."

104 hours focused on firearm use............... that is very extensive training.
Oh yeah....I am for arming teachers and faculty......if it saves just one child............
Steve

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by anothersteve

In the words of those that want to take guns and the Second Amendment away;
"if it saves the life of just one child".
The same can be said for arming teachers and faculty.

As to this;
"They also have at least one Sheriff Deputy on campus during school hours."
How'd that work at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School?

As per the new Florida legislation;
"Under the program, teachers would need to pass a 144-hour training course before they could be armed. Employees at schools in 40 of the state's 67 counties have already either enrolled in that course or plan to do so."

"By law, school guardians must undergo a psychological evaluation and complete at least 144 hours of training, including 104 hours focused on firearm use. The remaining 40 hours are split between trainings on diversity, legal issues, defensive tactics and active shooter situations."

104 hours focused on firearm use............... that is very extensive training.
Oh yeah....I am for arming teachers and faculty......if it saves just one child............
Steve

Sounds like a comprehensive program. I hope it achieves what they want it to..

[Number 10 GI]

The arming of teachers won't be involuntary, they will have to be willing volunteers. I'm sure there are going to be psychological evaluations to determine their fitness to be entrusted with a firearm in the classroom. I don't believe there is any intent by anyone to allow wannabe Rambos turned loose with firearms. The amount of training required is pretty extensive and should provide a good basis for a teacher to be effective and safe. Our grandchildren went to high school with over 2,500 students in a very large building that would have taken many police officers to properly secure. I doubt there is any school with a budget that could pay for that level of security and neither do the police departments.

[Velvet]

As a teacher for 30 plus years and a competitive member of the hand gun club of my university I say; No! Guns, grenades and bombs have no business in the classroom.

[anothersteve]

Originally Posted by Velvet

As a teacher for 30 plus years and a competitive member of the hand gun club of my university I say; No! Guns, grenades and bombs have no business in the classroom.

With all due respect, why?
Steve

Edit to say I agree with the grenades and bomb thing. That's just silly to let teachers and faculty have those.

[JoMar]

I've talked to a few teachers, not in Florida but friends that still live up north. If they had the choice they would carry. It's not only the kids in danger, it is also the teachers and being the adults in the room they feel an obligation to protect their kids and that could mean getting between the shooter and the kids. I think we sometimes forget about the teachers in those situations. I'm in favor of allowing those that want to carry and go through the psychological testing and the extensive training should have that option.

[Velvet]

Dangerous for many reasons. A teacher concentrates on teaching, they are trained to educate. They are not security guards, they are not army or police. We have had education in many countries for centuries. Can you name one place that arms their educators in their school system?

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by JoMar

I've talked to a few teachers, not in Florida but friends that still live up north. If they had the choice they would carry. It's not only the kids in danger, it is also the teachers and being the adults in the room they feel an obligation to protect their kids and that could mean getting between the shooter and the kids. I think we sometimes forget about the teachers in those situations. I'm in favor of allowing those that want to carry and go through the psychological testing and the extensive training should have that option.

You better be trained very well and in constant training. Do you know how hard it is to hit a moving object? We used to compete with our local police in training. And the probability of hitting a child in the shoot out...

[BobnBev]

I'll vote no. Should be active or retired LEO's.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Yes, unequivocally. But, as I was trained as a LEO in the use of a firearm, they should also have extensive training to include quarterly qualification in the use of the weapon.

[anothersteve]

Originally Posted by Velvet

You better be trained very well and in constant training. Do you know how hard it is to hit a moving object? We used to compete with our local police in training. And the probability of hitting a child in the shoot out...

See my post above.

Extensive training is a prerequisite.
Also...who shoots up schools? .....kids....wacked out kids! No military training,... well...no training at all....just screwed up kids with serious problems..
First responders, well trained teachers, faculty are the the best and first line of defense.
Steve