[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Monkei

Except ... Last time I checked the act of hanging out was not a crime.

You didn't know my mother.

[Monkei]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

You didn't know my mother.

My loss.

[gomoho]

Obviously.

[DougB]

Originally Posted by Ohiogirl

Would any of us feel this way if we were one of the groups "profiled?" I don't think so.

I don't mind an officer stopping and frisking me if she is cute!

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by Monkei

Picking up all the black kids and throwing the good ones back out on the street is not right. You cannot assume a black person is guilty just because they are black is not the way our justice system is supposed to work. Black people are supposed to be considered innocent with constitutional rights just like all the other races.

Obviously we must now have a different constitution for blacks and whites.

I would not support assuming a black pers,on is any more guilty than anybody else. Just like we would not assume white or any other color motorcycle riders in black leather with a chain on his wallet and a 6 inch beard is guilty either. Or if a suspect was driving a white Honda, no matter what color driver, we would not assume they are guilty either.

Nobody was promoting picking up all the black kids.....not sure why one would present that view.

btk

[Monkei]

Originally Posted by billethkid

I would not support assuming a black pers,on is any more guilty than anybody else. Just like we would not assume white or any other color motorcycle riders in black leather with a chain on his wallet and a 6 inch beard is guilty either. Or if a suspect was driving a white Honda, no matter what color driver, we would not assume they are guilty either.

Nobody was promoting picking up all the black kids.....not sure why one would present that view.

btk

Except for mayor Bloomberg and the NYC chief of police.

[DougB]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

And if you had lived in our family...they would have said.."Don't come crying to me. Do something with yourself. I doubt it was just the hair."

They also didn't like us out late messing around. I had folks who remembered well about being young. We could hardly get away with ANYTHING.

But that is neither here nor there.

No one with any kind of moral and caring hearts likes to made a judgment about anyone due to race or ethnicities or religion....to hurt one person because of the actions of others of the same color or religion or way of dressing is awful. But sometimes the safety of the majority makes tough decisions necessary.

Sorry, Gracie, but Monkei speaks the truth. I also had long hair in the late 60s and early 70s and yes, police did pull me over many, many times because of the length of my hair and search my car. They wouldn't even deny that was why. No one cried to anyone. We had as much right to long hair as you had to that B52 hairdo you probably had

[gomoho]

Originally Posted by DougB

Sorry, Gracie, but Monkei speaks the truth. I also had long hair in the late 60s and early 70s and yes, police did pull me over many, many times because of the length of my hair and search my car. They wouldn't even deny that was why. No one cried to anyone. We had as much right to long hair as you had to that B52 hairdo you probably had

And along with those choices sometimes come consequences. We chose to look that way because it was unconventional and basically telling society we can do what we choose. All this is fine - been there done that. But with that choice comes the consequences of those actions. Fair - maybe not, but it is reality and when you portray yourself as living outside the norm then you are going to be looked at.

[DougB]

I agree with you. Like I said no one went home crying. We usually had a good time with the officers. Just letting Gracie know that yes Monkei was probably pulled over because of his hair. These were choices we made. Profiling because of the color of ones skin or heritage is a different thing

[gomoho]

I'm not sure it is because of the color of someone's skin. Think it has more to do with the image they are conveying i.e. gansta.

[graciegirl]

All of these things have merit as valid arguments. My husband would not have kept his job with a large corporation if he had refused to fit the part of "The Man in the Grey Flannel Suit". If you want a job and work for someone you have to play by those rules.

My grandkids can't have tattoos or piercings as long as I am paying for their college education. I think if you look like a rat, you will be treated like a rat. And I don't know what a B52 hairdo is. Is a B52 an airplane? I was three when the second world war was over.

Doug. Time out. Sit there and think it over.

Oh by the way...I like for kids to look in style and not like nerds, on my computer screen is a picture of our two grands here at Christmas. Our 20 year old grandson has a beatles haircut and he is awesome looking.

[DougB]

Now you have gone and disappointed me. I imagined you as a pretty hip chick back in the 60s. The Beehive is a woman's hairstyle that resembles a beehive. Very fashionable. Think of Audrey Hepburn in Breakfast at Tiffany's.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by DougB

Now you have gone and disappointed me. I imagined you as a pretty hip chick back in the 60s. The Beehive is a woman's hairstyle that resembles a beehive. Very fashionable. Think of Audrey Hepburn in Breakfast at Tiffany's.

Didn't you say B52? I had a Beehive and I had mini skirts and white boots made for walkin'. But that was the seventies we are talkin' about.

[DougB]

Yes, a B 52 was a style of beehive hairdo