[buggyone]

Originally Posted by billethkid

If you happen to be in the house if/when an intruder enters, go to a bedroom unless you are already in it and put yourself with as much of the bed between you and the door as possible......and I might add you don't have to aim much with a shotgun. A tactical type 18 inch shot gun with 5 shells = significant deterence. Keep it loaded without one in the chamber thus having to rack the slide to put one in the chamber. It is a well known fact that sound alone will cause most intruders to flee.

And for those who always bring it up...of course we do not have children in our house and of course we know what to do with a loaded gun of any sort if there are visitors in the house and so on.

Ah yes, the infamous tactical shotgun under the bed. Once again, the burglars do not seem to be coming in the homes that are occupied. The burglar enters when you are gone, finds the infamous tactical shotgun and now HE has it and YOU do not! Good move - we now have an armed burglar.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by buggyone

Ah yes, the infamous tactical shotgun under the bed. Once again, the burglars do not seem to be coming in the homes that are occupied. The burglar enters when you are gone, finds the infamous tactical shotgun and now HE has it and YOU do not! Good move - we now have an armed burglar.

makes a good story for somebody I suppose and not unexpected! I hate to ruin the story but that just is not at all how it is done.

"burglars do not seem to be coming in the homes that are occupied."
to that point:
28 percent of burglaries involve people at home: good doors-windows prevent violent crime

And yes the number in TV is significantly smaller.

[JourneyOfLife]

After reading some of these posts... I fear for the helpful neighbor that might show to help due to the panic alarm.

[buggyone]

Originally Posted by billethkid

makes a good story for somebody I suppose and not unexpected! I hate to ruin the story but that just is not at all how it is done.

"burglars do not seem to be coming in the homes that are occupied."
to that point:
28 percent of burglaries involve people at home: good doors-windows prevent violent crime

And yes the number in TV is significantly smaller.

Yes, very significantly smaller. I believe there was 1 reported burglary at 3am when a home was supposedly robbed when the owners were home. All the rest of the burglaries were during times when no one was home. Hence, the greater possibility of your loaded tactical shotgun being stolen.

'Nuff said

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by buggyone

greater possibility of your loaded tactical shotgun being stolen.

'Nuff said

Also not unexpected and also even more wrong and untrue than the first anecdote.

Making fun of something one does not understand does not make a point, hence must provide comfort or rationalization!

I know from experience this won't be the last word, but it is mine!

[manaboutown]

One of these might do the trick! http://www.sleepsafe.com

Although some appear light enough for a burglar to walk out with and take home I have seen some very good looking and much heavier bedside nightstands holding handy pistol safes at guns shows.

[KEVIN & JOSIE]

So many on this post suggest the solution is a loaded weapon next to their bed to use against an intruder. So many I'm sure have one. For a certified, properly trained individual, this may be indeed true. We are talking about a retirement community with single seniors, senior couples trying to live the rest of their lives in happiness and peace. Do we really want these seniors arming themselves and trying to use deadly force against an intruder? Do we really want to live with a loaded weapon next to our bed to feel safe? Do we want the intruders stealing and using these weapons? The Villages is a very affluent retirement community, and not exactly the cheapest place to live. Would it not make sense to possibly have the Districts or the developer hire some trained, possibly retired police officers to patrol assigned area, if for no other reason, to show a presence in the community? This may be all that is needed to put an end to the crimes before they balloon out of control. I've heard many suggest alarm systems and cameras. This may give you a sense of security, but from my own experience, if you are targeted and the criminal wants to break into your home, they will, and the alarm system will not do what it was intended to do. They will break in, grab, and run before authorities arrive. Criminals are great at disguise, and do not fear cameras. Hopefully these events are short lived, and all Villagers will be able to live their retirement years secure and peacefully.

[manaboutown]

Somebody just sent me a link showing how thieves can break into a garage in 6 seconds and another link on how to keep it from happening. Simple and cheap fix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDw8DOblGB8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSO_HTBHLFI

[Sail41]

However you plan to confront this situation, wheather you are home or not, Make a PLAN, discuss it between yourselves and practice it monthly. If you are familiar with your plan, should something happen, you at least have a plan and can implement it.

[Carl in Tampa]

Originally Posted by NoMoSno

Wonder why police officers don't use wasp spray?

Liability.

1. Federal law prohibits the use of any pesticide "in a manner inconsistent with its labeling." You will find that warning on the can.

2. It is poison. Although a person is unlikely to die from being sprayed, there may be state laws that could result in the person spraying the wasp spray to be charged with some level of attempted homicide.

3. Mace, and similar products, are designed, intended and approved for self defense, within the constraints of state and local laws.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by KEVIN & JOSIE

So many on this post suggest the solution is a loaded weapon next to their bed to use against an intruder. So many I'm sure have one. For a certified, properly trained individual, this may be indeed true. We are talking about a retirement community with single seniors, senior couples trying to live the rest of their lives in happiness and peace. Do we really want these seniors arming themselves and trying to use deadly force against an intruder? Do we really want to live with a loaded weapon next to our bed to feel safe?

One thing I would ask you to keep in mind is that some of have been armed most of their lives for one reason or another. And they do not do any differently now that they are seniors.
Their are very many retired law enforcement individuals in TV. Very many of them carry to this day because they did most of their lives. In addition some of the law enforcement folks may have some individuals from their past they hope they never meet....hence they "carry".

So it is not as though some have just made a choice to have a weapon for what ever reason.

Others who elect to have a weapon for home defense or who elect to carry a concealed weapon.....guns draw a negative reaction from the uniformed. Most of the population knows about guns what they see in the movies and television. And in recent years guns just happen to be the choice of producers to incite and portray violence. Why can't the view of guns be just like any other magnified, sensationalizing subject encounter?

It is no different than the thought process of why folks have insurance. You buy it hoping you never have to use it. Those who choose to be prepared whether with a gun or martial arts or what ever else.....should be viewed no differently.

And by no means none of what I present is intended to change anybody's views on guns. Just appreciate and respect the others choices.....which too many will not do just because the subject is "guns".

[Steve & Deanna]

Say hello to my little friend(s)...Smith & Wesson.

[elizabeth52]

Does anyone know of an incidence of a home break in that has been thwarted because of the homeowner being armed with a gun? I have read of many robberies and home break-in's and wonder how many times a homeowner has been successful in stopping the crime.

This is in no way an indictment of those who choose to defend their homes in this manner. I firmly stand behind your right to do so. Just curious.

[buggyone]

Originally Posted by elizabeth52

Does anyone know of an incidence of a home break in that has been thwarted because of the homeowner being armed with a gun? I have read of many robberies and home break-in's and wonder how many times a homeowner has been successful in stopping the crime.

This is in no way an indictment of those who choose to defend their homes in this manner. I firmly stand behind your right to do so. Just curious.

Let's bring the previous post closer to us. Instead of a general "incident" anywhere in the country, make it one in The Villages that has been thwarted because of the homeowner being armed with a gun.

Thanks.

[elizabeth52]

Originally Posted by buggyone

Let's bring the previous post closer to us. Instead of a general "incident" anywhere in the country, make it one in The Villages that has been thwarted because of the homeowner being armed with a gun.

Thanks.

Yes, in the Villages is what I meant. Thanks for helping to clarify.