[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

26 pages of posts (opinions). I'd be curious to know how many of the people who are against an electric vehicle I've ever actually driven one?

I'm not against electric vehicles. But, I haven't heard a convincing argument as to why we should be spending trillions of dollars to transition to them. If they are better than gasoline vehicles, people will buy them. Driving an electric vehicle will not change my opinion about that.

[jebartle]

Yup, made the leap to electric 15 years ago.

[Michael G.]

Electrics are great for certain applications, but not for every day dependable vehicle transportation.

I see a real future for electrics in boat motors, motorcycles, golfcarts, lawn maintenance equipment, but not
were temperatures can drop below freezing for any length of time.

Unless of course there's a big breakthrough in battery's.

[rjm1cc]

I use an electric golf cart for probably 90+% of my local driving. My gas car sits in the garage but I will keep it for years as long as it is reliable. Since I have a second gas car I can see that I would replace one with electric that I intended to drive only in my hometown.
I think, because of the carbon associated with the manufacturing of the batteries and the carbon from the production of electric that my gas car would probably be responsible for less carbon than the new electric one. I would be driving less than 5000 miles a year.

[Vermilion Villager]

Originally Posted by rjm1cc

I use an electric golf cart for probably 90+% of my local driving. My gas car sits in the garage but I will keep it for years as long as it is reliable. Since I have a second gas car I can see that I would replace one with electric that I intended to drive only in my hometown.
I think, because of the carbon associated with the manufacturing of the batteries and the carbon from the production of electric that my gas car would probably be responsible for less carbon than the new electric one. I would be driving less than 5000 miles a year.

Those who go down the energy production route always seem to overlook the amount of energy used to produce a gallon of gasoline. It's massive! Plus your battery can be charged from multiple sources, including solar and wind, both which are low carbon. A gallon of gasoline only comes from one place…

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

Those who go down the energy production route always seem to overlook the amount of energy used to produce a gallon of gasoline. It's massive! Plus your battery can be charged from multiple sources, including solar and wind, both which are low carbon. A gallon of gasoline only comes from one place…

And yet it only takes a few minutes to fill my gas tank. It takes HOURS to fill a battery to go a few miles. Good luck when paying for a full charge because the price of charging is higher than a tank of gas. Lithium is also dangerous and there is no where near enough to support an all EV world. Mining lithium? Before running totally toward electric power, we better figure out how to get more of it for use. We will still have to live with oil produced products, even if we get rid of gas powered vehicles. I think that Hydrogen power should be considered before electric powered vehicles.

[MorTech]

A lot Retirees in TV could benefit greatly with electric cars since most rarely drive a car long distance and EVs are basically maintenance free (Won't get ripped off at the car Stealerships). Costco is 120 mile RT...Orlando and Tampa airports are about 170 miles RT...Most EVs get realistically about 250 miles per charge. Just plug them into 120V plug and it will charge at about 4 miles per hour and cost about 4 cents a mile in electricity. The only real maintenance is tires and wiper blades.

Economic sense.....Not really.

[Nucky]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

A couple weeks ago I ordered a 2023 BMW X5 M50i which should be delivered in two or three months so not for a while. I need range and quick refueling so I am sticking with gasoline for now. Hybrids are a great option IMHO. My brother has had a Lexus R450h for a few years. He and his wife reside in Arizona and take long road trips all over the western US so this vehicle works out very well for them.

Good luck with your purchase. We were passed by a X5 on our way home in Virginia. What a spectacular car. It was green but a beautiful shade of green!

Our son who owns the Plaid has had a few problems lately and needs new tires and he is upset because the car has about 17000 miles. It’s because he has a heavy foot and always smokes the tires. I think he’s past the novelty of The Tesla.

Anyway good luck and enjoy your purchase!

[positiveinlife]

Lithium extraction inevitably harms the soil and causes air contamination.
According to a report by Friends of the Earth (FoE), lithium extraction inevitably harms the soil and causes air contamination. As demand rises, the mining impacts are “increasingly affecting communities where this harmful extraction takes place, jeopardising their access to water,” says the report.

So much for ev's being GREEN .The mining of lithium is a large cause of pollution.

[Rainger99]

According to the census, the median household income was $67,521 in 2020 (before taxes), a decrease of 2.9 percent from the 2019 median of $69,560.

The average price for an electric car is $66,000.

Unless we are going to get a $30,000 to 40,000 tax credit, most Americans will not be able to afford it. However, if climate change is an existential threat to humanity and will destroy the planet in (is it 0, 8, or 10 years), we have no choice but to buy electric cars for everyone in the country - and probably the world!

[Tvflguy]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

According to the census, the median household income was $67,521 in 2020 (before taxes), a decrease of 2.9 percent from the 2019 median of $69,560.

The average price for an electric car is $66,000.

Unless we are going to get a $30,000 to 40,000 tax credit, most Americans will not be able to afford it. However, if climate change is an existential threat to humanity and will destroy the planet in (is it 0, 8, or 10 years), we have no choice but to buy electric cars for everyone in the country - and probably the world!

I don’t know about y’all, but even a $7500 tax credit does not apply to me. Let alone many more thousands in Credit some are advocating …. for a year. Our finances are just fine and cozy but our annual fed tax bill is not close to $7500. So we would be leaving a bunch of bucks on the table if we’d ever buy an EV with the credit. BUT we are assuming some of the $$$ payout from our tax dollars to those who get and use those credits primarily the rich who can afford the average $66K EV. grrr

[Bay Kid]

Originally Posted by Nucky

Good luck with your purchase. We were passed by a X5 on our way home in Virginia. What a spectacular car. It was green but a beautiful shade of green!

Our son who owns the Plaid has had a few problems lately and needs new tires and he is upset because the car has about 17000 miles. It’s because he has a heavy foot and always smokes the tires. I think he’s past the novelty of The Tesla.

Anyway good luck and enjoy your purchase!

Originally Posted by manaboutown

A couple weeks ago I ordered a 2023 BMW X5 M50i which should be delivered in two or three months so not for a while. I need range and quick refueling so I am sticking with gasoline for now. Hybrids are a great option IMHO. My brother has had a Lexus R450h for a few years. He and his wife reside in Arizona and take long road trips all over the western US so this vehicle works out very well for them.

I have a '23 BMW X5 M50i on order. Takes 4-6 weeks to build, then I'm taking delivery at the Performance School. You should give it a try. No extra charge and great fun. I also have a hybrid Avalon that is great. But I don't want an EV.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by positiveinlife

Lithium extraction inevitably harms the soil and causes air contamination.
According to a report by Friends of the Earth (FoE), lithium extraction inevitably harms the soil and causes air contamination. As demand rises, the mining impacts are “increasingly affecting communities where this harmful extraction takes place, jeopardising their access to water,” says the report.

So much for ev's being GREEN .The mining of lithium is a large cause of pollution.

People pushing EV's do not like to talk about stuff like this do they.

[Bay Kid]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

People pushing EV's do not like to talk about stuff like this do they.

They don't want to talk about this but without oil there would be no EVs.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

They don't want to talk about this but without oil there would be no EVs.