[mikemalloy]

Originally Posted by RickeyD

Just as the KKK doesn't represent all Christians, Muslim extremists don't represent all Muslims.

Terrorism


ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
Poll reveals 40pc of Muslims want sharia law in UK - Telegraph

NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
Many British Muslims Put Islam First - CBS News
WebCite query result

Channel Four (2006): 31% of younger British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified compared to 14% of those over 45.
http://www.policyexchange.org.uk/ima...20jan%2007.pdf

People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
A Year After Iraq War | Pew Research Center

YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children:
http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/...t-infanticide/
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...053251,00.html

World Public Opinion: 83% of Egyptians approve of attacks on American troops.
26% of Indonesians approve of attacks on American troops.
26% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on American troops.
68% of Moroccans approve of attacks on American troops.
90% of Palestinians approve of attacks on American troops.
72% of Jordanians approve of attacks on American troops.
52% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (39% oppose)
A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on American troops.
About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pi..._Feb09_rpt.pdf

World Public Opinion (2009): 30% of Palestinians support attacks on American civilians working in Muslim countries. 24% support the murder of Americans on U.S. soil.
Only 74% of Turks and 55% of Pakistanis disapprove of terror attacks against civilians on U.S. soil.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pi..._Feb09_rpt.pdf

Pew Research (2010): 55% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hezbollah
30% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hezbollah
45% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hezbollah (26% negative)
43% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hezbollah (30% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/musl...and-hezbollah/

Pew Research (2010): 60% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hamas (34% negative).
49% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hamas (48% negative)
49% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hamas (25% negative)
39% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hamas (33% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/musl...and-hezbollah/

Pew Research (2010): 15% of Indonesians believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
34% of Nigerian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/musl...and-hezbollah/

16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/...aardbaar.dhtml

Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified. 1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops.
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...itish-islamist

Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/mu...ns.pdf#page=60

Pew Research (2011): 8% of Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (81% never).
28% of Egyptian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (38% never).
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/...for-extremism/

Pew Research (2007): Muslim-Americans who identify more strongly with their religion are three times more likely to feel that suicide bombings are justified
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/mu...ns.pdf#page=60

27% of British Muslims do not support the deportation of Islamic extremists preaching violence and hate.
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...-islamist.html

Federation of Student Islamic Societies: About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack.
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...itish-islamist

ICM Poll: 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...itish-islamist

Populus Poll (2006): 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...itish-islamist

World Public Opinion: Majorities in Egypt (63%) and Libya (61%) supported the 9/11/2012 attacks against American embassies, including Benghazi.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pi...d=&id=&pnt=727

Pew Research (2013): At least 1 in 4 Muslims do not reject violence against civilians (study did not distinguish between those who believe it is partially justified and never justified).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFile...ull-report.pdf

Pew Research (2013): 15% of Muslims in Turkey support suicide bombings (also 11% in Kosovo, 26% in Malaysia and 26% in Bangladesh).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFile...ull-report.pdf

PCPO (2014): 89% of Palestinians support Hamas and other terrorists firing rockets at Israeli civilians.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/po...cks-on-israely

Pew Research (2013): Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda. Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban. 13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/...remist-groups/

BBC Radio (2015): 45% of British Muslims agree that clerics preaching violence against the West represent "mainstream Islam".
http://www.comres.co.uk/polls/bbc-ra...y-muslim-poll/

Palestinian Center for Political Research (2015): 74% of Palestinians support Hamas terror attacks.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/support...ar-poll-shows/

Pew Research (2014): 47% of Bangladeshi Muslims says suicide bombings and violence are justified to "defend Islam". 1 in 4 believed the same in Tanzania and Egypt. 1 in 5 Muslims in the 'moderate' countries of Turkey and Malaysia.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/07/01/...n-middle-east/

The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 19% of Muslim-Americans say that violence is justified in order to make Sharia the law in the United States (66% disagree).
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.o...-Poll-Data.pdf

The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 25% of Muslim-Americans say that violence against Americans in the United States is justified as part of the "global Jihad (64% disagree).
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.o...-Poll-Data.pdf

The Sun (2015: Following Nov. 2015 attacks in Paris, 1 in 4 young Muslims in Britain (and 1 in 5 overall) said they sympathize with those who fight for ISIS.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...s-in-poll.html

ICM (2016): 2 in 3 Muslims in Britain would not report terror plot to police.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/u...cle4730825.ece

[virgind]

This is a little off subject but I know of no other religion that wants to kill the infidels (Christians us Americans) . It says it in their bible. So why the ---- are we supporting them. Maybe during the Crusades but who was fighting that . Christians and Muslims who is fighting now. I'm with Trump they dont want to live according to our ways leave dont come back.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by leftyf

I have seen them talking all day, but talk is cheap. NONE of them said they had donated blood. That is my point.

Oh, by the way, I donate platelets every 2 weeks and I have been a blood donor for over 40 years.

You often cannot tell a Muslim from what she or he looks like. Muslims in America - 24 Famous celebrities who are Muslim - Pictures - CBS News

[RickeyD]

Originally Posted by mikemalloy

Terrorism





ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers

Poll reveals 40pc of Muslims want sharia law in UK - Telegraph



NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified

Many British Muslims Put Islam First - CBS News

WebCite query result



Channel Four (2006): 31% of younger British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified compared to 14% of those over 45.

http://www.policyexchange.org.uk/ima...20jan%2007.pdf



People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.

A Year After Iraq War | Pew Research Center



YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children:

http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/...t-infanticide/

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...053251,00.html



World Public Opinion: 83% of Egyptians approve of attacks on American troops.

26% of Indonesians approve of attacks on American troops.

26% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on American troops.

68% of Moroccans approve of attacks on American troops.

90% of Palestinians approve of attacks on American troops.

72% of Jordanians approve of attacks on American troops.

52% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (39% oppose)

A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on American troops.

About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pi..._Feb09_rpt.pdf



World Public Opinion (2009): 30% of Palestinians support attacks on American civilians working in Muslim countries. 24% support the murder of Americans on U.S. soil.

Only 74% of Turks and 55% of Pakistanis disapprove of terror attacks against civilians on U.S. soil.

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pi..._Feb09_rpt.pdf



Pew Research (2010): 55% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hezbollah

30% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hezbollah

45% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hezbollah (26% negative)

43% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hezbollah (30% negative)

http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/musl...and-hezbollah/



Pew Research (2010): 60% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hamas (34% negative).

49% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hamas (48% negative)

49% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hamas (25% negative)

39% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hamas (33% negative)

http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/musl...and-hezbollah/



Pew Research (2010): 15% of Indonesians believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.

34% of Nigerian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.

http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/musl...and-hezbollah/



16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".

http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/...aardbaar.dhtml



Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified. 1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops.

http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...itish-islamist



Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.

35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).

42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).

22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).

29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).

http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/mu...ns.pdf#page=60



Pew Research (2011): 8% of Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (81% never).

28% of Egyptian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (38% never).

http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/...for-extremism/



Pew Research (2007): Muslim-Americans who identify more strongly with their religion are three times more likely to feel that suicide bombings are justified

http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/mu...ns.pdf#page=60



27% of British Muslims do not support the deportation of Islamic extremists preaching violence and hate.

http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...-islamist.html



Federation of Student Islamic Societies: About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack.

http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...itish-islamist



ICM Poll: 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.

http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...itish-islamist



Populus Poll (2006): 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.

37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".

http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...itish-islamist



World Public Opinion: Majorities in Egypt (63%) and Libya (61%) supported the 9/11/2012 attacks against American embassies, including Benghazi.

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pi...d=&id=&pnt=727



Pew Research (2013): At least 1 in 4 Muslims do not reject violence against civilians (study did not distinguish between those who believe it is partially justified and never justified).

http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFile...ull-report.pdf



Pew Research (2013): 15% of Muslims in Turkey support suicide bombings (also 11% in Kosovo, 26% in Malaysia and 26% in Bangladesh).

http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFile...ull-report.pdf



PCPO (2014): 89% of Palestinians support Hamas and other terrorists firing rockets at Israeli civilians.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/po...cks-on-israely



Pew Research (2013): Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda. Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban. 13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.

http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/...remist-groups/



BBC Radio (2015): 45% of British Muslims agree that clerics preaching violence against the West represent "mainstream Islam".

http://www.comres.co.uk/polls/bbc-ra...y-muslim-poll/



Palestinian Center for Political Research (2015): 74% of Palestinians support Hamas terror attacks.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/support...ar-poll-shows/



Pew Research (2014): 47% of Bangladeshi Muslims says suicide bombings and violence are justified to "defend Islam". 1 in 4 believed the same in Tanzania and Egypt. 1 in 5 Muslims in the 'moderate' countries of Turkey and Malaysia.

http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/07/01/...n-middle-east/



The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 19% of Muslim-Americans say that violence is justified in order to make Sharia the law in the United States (66% disagree).

http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.o...-Poll-Data.pdf



The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 25% of Muslim-Americans say that violence against Americans in the United States is justified as part of the "global Jihad (64% disagree).

http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.o...-Poll-Data.pdf



The Sun (2015: Following Nov. 2015 attacks in Paris, 1 in 4 young Muslims in Britain (and 1 in 5 overall) said they sympathize with those who fight for ISIS.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...s-in-poll.html



ICM (2016): 2 in 3 Muslims in Britain would not report terror plot to police.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/u...cle4730825.ece

You spent a lot of time on this. I get it. If I were one of the many having to live under brutal western colonial rule over the past many centuries I might feel as these people do. You can't pick and choose which part of history makes your argument valid.

http://www.oxfordislamicstudies.com/...999-chapter-13

http://www.history.ac.uk/reviews/review/575

http://what-when-how.com/western-col...n-colonialism/

http://www.middleeastpdx.org/resourc...iddle_East.ppt

http://www.mepc.org/journal/middle-e...ivide-and-rule

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

You often cannot tell a Muslim from what she or he looks like. Muslims in America - 24 Famous celebrities who are Muslim - Pictures - CBS News

No. BUT. Having lived near a Mosque for 22 years before moving here, I can make this observation. The Muslims who are bearded and who wear traditional clothing are usually more devout or radicalized if those words can fairly be interchanged. The men go to prayer four times a day.(Women aren't allowed at prayer) It is similar to many of us today. I call myself a Catholic, but don't attend Mass on a regular basis which may be that I am not as devout or radicalized, if those words can be fairly interchanged, as someone wearing a traditional nun's habit. (In fact that is a very good bet)

[JoelJohnson]

There are about 1.6 BILLION Muslims in the world.
They make up about .01% of the US population.
Like you and me, most of them just want to live in peace.
They come to this country to escape the terrorist in their own country.

Anyone can become radicalized, let's remember Timmy McVeigh (Federal Building bombing), was a US citizen of US parents.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

If someone provided 25.......you would ask the same question. What number would please you?

Hundreds. At least they would show where they stand, instead of sending out a couple of CAIR lawyers to speak about how the muslim community feels persecuted.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by JoelJohnson

There are about 1.6 BILLION Muslims in the world.
They make up about .01% of the US population.
Like you and me, most of them just want to live in peace.
They come to this country to escape the terrorist in their own country.

Anyone can become radicalized, let's remember Timmy McVeigh (Federal Building bombing), was a US citizen of US parents.

They also could come here for the same reason that Jehovah Witnesses knock on our door, and that Mormons go on trips before college and why many evangelistic Christians go to countries that do not have Christianity.

I would like to believe that everyone who comes to this country are looking for a job and a new life, but some come for religious reasons, to spread their faith.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by JoelJohnson

There are about 1.6 BILLION Muslims in the world.
They make up about .01% of the US population.
Like you and me, most of them just want to live in peace.
They come to this country to escape the terrorist in their own country.

Anyone can become radicalized, let's remember Timmy McVeigh (Federal Building bombing), was a US citizen of US parents.

These lone wolves come in every color, almost every religion, but are mostly young male. Lone wolf (terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

The policeman interviewed a few days ago-- FBI lead agent-- on the Pulse nightclub massacre told us -- I you see something say something and we will do something.

People should watch out for their neighbors and if someone seems a lot more angry than usual or if dogs run from this person because they can sense the pent up hostility call your non 911 number. Use some common sense though-- people can get upset for a very wide variety of things.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

No. BUT. Having lived near a Mosque for 22 years before moving here, I can make this observation. The Muslims who are bearded and who wear traditional clothing are usually more devout or radicalized if those words can fairly be interchanged. The men go to prayer four times a day.(Women aren't allowed at prayer) It is similar to many of us today. I call myself a Catholic, but don't attend Mass on a regular basis which may be that I am not as devout or radicalized, if those words can be fairly interchanged, as someone wearing a traditional nun's habit. (In fact that is a very good bet)

It is very hard for most of us who live in peace with other religions and don't hate other religions to find fault with other religions, but Isis, and it's predecessors in TODAY's world are very scary and the followers are very dangerous and most of us are infidels that they want dead.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by RickeyD

You spent a lot of time on this. I get it. If I were one of the many having to live under brutal western colonial rule over the past many centuries I might feel as these people do. You can't pick and choose which part of history makes your argument valid.

The Oxford History of Islam - European Colonialism and the Emergence of Modern Muslim States - Oxford Islamic Studies Online

Western Imperialism in the Middle East, 1914–1958 | Reviews in History

BRITISH COLONIALISM, MIDDLE EAST (Western Colonialism)

http://www.middleeastpdx.org/resourc...iddle_East.ppt

The Troubles in Syria: Spawned by French Divide and Rule | Middle East Policy Council

Understanding your enemy is a good thing or trying to prevent people from becoming your enemy is even better.

People should study the history, culture and languages of these areas.

I do not think there is much chance of understanding ISIS as that is a fascist movement mostly developed around a radicalization of a old religion which has little cultural or historical connection. It is cult like and depends a lot on the people who are running it and their personalities.

[outlaw]

Oh well. Many naysayers on here. Unfortunately, it will take several more of these attacks on US soil before some will realize the evil Trojan horse we welcomed into our country. Hopefully, it won't be too late, like in Europe.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by outlaw

Oh well. Many naysayers on here. Unfortunately, it will take several more of these attacks on US soil before some will realize the evil Trojan horse we welcomed into our country. Hopefully, it won't be too late, like in Europe.

You seem to be forgetting that the Orlando shooter was born in Queens. He was a US citizen and probably a closet gay.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by quirky3

This is from Facebook

Mahmoud ElAwadi feeling determined at Orlando

-Yes my name is Mahmoud a proud Muslim American .
-Yes I donated blood even though I can't eat or drink anything cause I'm fasting in our holy month Ramadan just like hundreds of other Muslims who donated today here in Orlando .
-Yes I'm angry for what happened last night and all the innocent lives we lost .
-Yes I'm sad , frustrated and mad that a crazy guy claim to be a Muslim did that shameful act.
-Yes I witnessed the greatness of this country watching thousands of people standing in 92 degree sun waiting on their turn to donate blood even after they were told that the wait time is 5-7 hours .
-Yes this is the greatest nation on earth watching people from different a ages including kids volunteering to give water , juice , food , umbrellas , sun block. Also watching our old veterans coming to donate And next to them Muslim women in hijab carrying food and water to donors standing in line .
-Yes together we will stand against hate , terrorism , extremism and racism .
-Yes our blood all look the same so get out there and donate blood cause our fellow American citizens are injured and need our blood .
Yes our community in central Florida is heart broken but let's put our colors , religions , ethnicity , sexual orientation , political views all aside so we can UNITE against those who are trying to hurt us .

Originally Posted by RickeyD

Just as the KKK doesn't represent all Christians, Muslim extremists don't represent all Muslims.

to you both

[RickeyD]

Originally Posted by outlaw

Oh well. Many naysayers on here. Unfortunately, it will take several more of these attacks on US soil before some will realize the evil Trojan horse we welcomed into our country. Hopefully, it won't be too late, like in Europe.

Maybe make them wear a yellow star of Islam on their clothing. Would make a round up a lot easier.