[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by leftyf

Since I donate platelets every 2 weeks, I cannot donate to any blood drive, no matter what it is for. It would just delay my platelet donations.

My original thoughts on this threads were, IF the Muslims had showed up by the hundreds to donate blood to these gay victims, it would have sent a message to the ISIS terrorists that the Muslims support the US, not ISIS. That's the way to defeat ISIS, not by hiding them.

It is Ramadan so it would be hard for a lot of Muslims to donate because they are busy fasting.

I would expect that Muslims donate blood as often as say Catholics, Jews, or Lutherans do. Blood donations: religious and non-religious are equally generous

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Along those same lines, I am always astonished at the number of people who are so fearful and obsessed with being killed by some religious zealot.

When the truth of the matter is, statistically you are much more likely to die from one of the old drivers around here, that should have long ago had their licenses pulled.

Or a young driver.

Or ANY driver.

BUT, for some reason there is this inexplicable, outsized fear of these terrorists who have hijacked a religion to justify their barbarism.

And don’t anyone try and twist this to read that I think terrorism isn’t one of the most despicable acts that human beings can do to each other…because I do believe that.

Regardless of their stated justification.

BUT, given that you are MUCH more likely to die in an automobile (or numerous other situations as noted below), there is definitely something else besides common sense going on here.

Obviously with this tragedy in Orlando these numbers will change (IF it was actually an extremist religious act and not just a hatred of gays and his own sexuality), but the basic point will not change enough to even be statistically meaningful.

So all of you overweight, obese and alcohol drinking folks out there that are terrified of Muslim/religious extremists, why aren’t you as concerned about what you keep shoving in your mouth and down your throat?

The Terrorism Statistics Every American Needs to Hear | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

You forgot to mention that global climate change is the biggest threat to our security.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

It is Ramadan so it would be hard for a lot of Muslims to donate because they are busy fasting.

I would expect that Muslims donate blood as often as say Catholics, Jews, or Lutherans do. Blood donations: religious and non-religious are equally generous

I would expect muslims to donate very little, if any, blood to help the LGBT community. But I only say that because of their track record towards LGBTs in muslim controlled countries. Not to mention the numerous videos of imams and muslim guest speakers, enjoying our freedom of speech, advocating death for LGBTs in our country.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by outlaw

I would expect muslims to donate very little, if any, blood to help the LGBT community. But I only say that because of their track record towards LGBTs in muslim controlled countries. Not to mention the numerous videos of imams and muslim guest speakers, enjoying our freedom of speech, advocating death for LGBTs in our country.

You do not know where your blood is going when you donate. It could go to anyone who needed it.

You are right that there is a very serious problem with hatred of gays within the Muslim religion but you will also find this hatred still in many parts of the United States.

Homophobia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

You do not know where your blood is going when you donate. I could go to anyone who needed it.

You are right that there is a very serious problem with hatred of gays within the Muslim religion but you will also find this hatred still in many parts of the United States.

Homophobia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I honestly don't see this hatred in "many parts of the US". I do see non-acceptance/disapproval of the lifestyle, to each his own.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by outlaw

I honestly don't see this hatred in "many parts of the US". I do see non-acceptance/disapproval of the lifestyle, to each his own.

Hate Crimes Against LGBT People Are Sadly Common | FiveThirtyEight

Gays/lesbians have a rather high percentage of being victims/survivors of hate crimes in the United States.

Taking into account the relatively small size of the LGBT population, these numbers are even starker. According to an analysis by the Southern Poverty Law Center using FBI hate crime data and population estimates, LGBT Americans are targeted in hate crimes at 8.3 times the rate you’d expect based on the size of their population; that’s higher than the rate for both Jews (at 3.5) and black people (at 3.2).

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Hate Crimes Against LGBT People Are Sadly Common | FiveThirtyEight

Gays/lesbians have a rather high percentage of being victims/survivors of hate crimes in the United States.

Doesn't take many events in an extremely small population to make a significant statistical incidence.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Hate Crimes Against LGBT People Are Sadly Common | FiveThirtyEight

Gays/lesbians have a rather high percentage of being victims/survivors of hate crimes in the United States.

That's because Attorney General Holder disallowed any prosecutions of hate crimes against white hetero men. Thus the FBI stats are worthless in this regard.

[outlaw]

In light of the orlando tragedy, and the discussions of "radicalization", I thought some would find this video interesting, and others may find it enlightening.

Norwegian Islamic Leader Fahad Qureshi: All Muslims Believe in Death Penalty for Homosexuals - YouTube

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by outlaw

In light of the orlando tragedy, and the discussions of "radicalization", I thought some would find this video interesting, and others may find it enlightening.

Norwegian Islamic Leader Fahad Qureshi: All Muslims Believe in Death Penalty for Homosexuals - YouTube

Islam Net - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

OK. So that is a group in Norway that has those views. That does not follow then to say that all or even most Muslims in Orlando share these views.

[mickey100]

Originally Posted by virgind

This is a little off subject but I know of no other religion that wants to kill the infidels (Christians us Americans) . It says it in their bible. So why the ---- are we supporting them. Maybe during the Crusades but who was fighting that . Christians and Muslims who is fighting now. I'm with Trump they dont want to live according to our ways leave dont come back.

Most Muslims do NOT want to kill the infidels. Just Ask Islam - Does Islam Say: "Kill The Infidels"? Only the extremists, who represent a tiny portion of the Muslim population in the world. As others have said, do not judge the whole religion by the actions of the few. I won't judge the Christian religion by the actions of the Christian right i.e. those who bomb abortion clinics and kill abortion doctors. And as far as hatred of gays by Muslims, do you really think the other religions are much better? A person who used to be a friend of ours is a big time Catholic. He is a racist bigot and hates gays. And he sings in the church choir and thinks he is really on high moral ground because he goes to Church so often. As far as I'm concerned, people that that are complete hypocrites.

Gays have been discriminated against for centuries by all cultures, including our own, and are only beginning to gain acceptance.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by mickey100

Most Muslims do NOT want to kill the infidels. Just Ask Islam - Does Islam Say: "Kill The Infidels"? Only the extremists, who represent a tiny portion of the Muslim population in the world. As others have said, do not judge the whole religion by the actions of the few. I won't judge the Christian religion by the actions of the Christian right i.e. those who bomb abortion clinics and kill abortion doctors. And as far as hatred of gays by Muslims, do you really think the other religions are much better? A person who used to be a friend of ours is a big time Catholic. He is a racist bigot and hates gays. And he sings in the church choir and thinks he is really on high moral ground because he goes to Church so often. As far as I'm concerned, people that that are complete hypocrites.

Gays have been discriminated against for centuries by all cultures, including our own, and are only beginning to gain acceptance.

Your friend Mickey...is a POS, but he didn't kill any gay people. AND there is no doctrine in The Baltimore Catechism that taught him to hate gays. AND yes I do. I think the other religions are much better in their teachings about homosexuality. No other one encourages death.

Thank God that science has unlocked the human genome and we can now see that a persons sexual orientation is born with them.

[mickey100]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Your friend Mickey...is a POS, but he didn't kill any gay people. AND there is no doctrine in The Baltimore Catechism that taught him to hate gays. AND yes I do. I think the other religions are much better in their teachings about homosexuality. No other one encourages death.

Thank God that science has unlocked the human genome and we can now see that a persons sexual orientation is born with them.

I guess you didn't read the link. Islam does not encourage death either, just the extremists. And yes, our former friend is a POS, but it was people like him that have killed others, in the supposed name of Christianity. From the crusades, to witch hunts, killing of native Americans, Christianity has a clear history of killing non-Christians.

[goodtimesintv]

One entry, among many on homosexuality, in the online, searchable Catechism of the Catholic Church.

See, especially, Section 2358:

Catechism of the Catholic Church

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by mickey100

I guess you didn't read the link. Islam does not encourage death either, just the extremists.

Not to mention that you also said.... "used to be a friend of ours" ...which makes it pretty clear that he's no longer your friend.

And although you didn't actually spell it out (maybe you need to for some folks?), anyone with average intelligence could have figured out why he was no longer your friend.

BTW, I have seen the same thing and had exactly the same experiences with some of my EX, hypocritical Christian friends.