[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by rubicon

This is a difficult question to address given the limitations of time and space.
Advances in health safety, technology etc. are better.
Morally and socially we are rapidly digressing.
Political leadership is corrupt and lacks vision.
Our educational system has failed miserably and the affects of that failure are now self evident.
The federal government over reach is stripping both industry and private citizens of constitutional rights and compromising our free enterprise system with unnecessary and expensive regulations
I love America also and it is sad to see the America I knew disappear before my eyes.

Well!
You have a way of putting the truth in perspective better than anyone I have known personally. Thank you Rubicon, and since I am on beer number five and more important, I can't recall you ever posting a false post, I bow out of this thread with a sincere salute.

Lou

[KeepingItReal]

Originally Posted by rubicon

This is a difficult question to address given the limitations of time and space.
Advances in health safety, technology etc. are better.
Morally and socially we are rapidly digressing.
Political leadership is corrupt and lacks vision.
Our educational system has failed miserably and the affects of that failure are now self evident.
The federal government over reach is stripping both industry and private citizens of constitutional rights and compromising our free enterprise system with unnecessary and expensive regulations
I love America also and it is sad to see the America I knew disappear before my eyes.

Totally agree......without America standing strong as in the past there is little hope for the rest of the world.

[DaleMN]

Some walk to work. Some carry their lunch.

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by KeepingItReal

Totally agree......without America standing strong as in the past there is little hope for the rest of the world.

Now your both right. Ups, sorry I said I was out of here.

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by Golfingnut

I see us in better shape than any time in my life. Better medical, better equal rites etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

Well, one huge factor you're overlooking is that, as a country, we are BROKE. The debt is out of control, less people seem to be working, more people seem to be receiving public funds of various types. To cover the shortage, we just print money and pass the bill to future generations. In addition, the level of political divisiveness has increased in recent years vs being reduced. Our presence on the world stage is also much weaker ... ie Russia, Iran, NK ... the usual characters seem to be getting bolder.

I, like you, love America. I just don't like the direction we are headed and am concerned that we will all suffer the consequences at some point in the relatively near future.

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by TexaninVA

Well, one huge factor you're overlooking is that, as a country, we are BROKE. The debt is out of control, less people seem to be working, more people seem to be receiving public funds of various types. To cover the shortage, we just print money and pass the bill to future generations. In addition, the level of political divisiveness has increased in recent years vs being reduced. Our presence on the world stage is also much weaker ... ie Russia, Iran, NK ... the usual characters seem to be getting bolder.

I, like you, love America. I just don't like the direction we are headed and am concerned that we will all suffer the consequences at some point in the relatively near future.

You are correct, but at least for the last 6 years we are getting it right.

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by Golfingnut

You are correct, but at least for the last 6 years we are getting it right.

I think you meant to say that, for the last 6 years, we're getting it left.

[Matzy]

Hi redwitch, we've some in common, the citizenship(s). I can understand your feelings and opinion very well.
To all which are seeing problems right now where we are heading too..... well, we don't know it really.
Yes, nobody is perfect. We are a country with people from almost all countries of the world and we living together in peace. About our debt............????? That is money, yes I know it is important, but I think all what really counts are the people. And these people will fix the problems.

[Golfingnut]

[QUOTE=Matzy;857678]Hi redwitch, we've some in common, the citizenship(s). I can understand your feelings and opinion very well.
To all which are seeing problems right now where we are heading too..... well, we don't know it really.
Yes, nobody is perfect. We are a country with people from almost all countries of the world and we living together in peace. About our debt............????? That is money, yes I know it is important, but I think all what really counts are the people. And these people will fix the problems.[/

Sehr korrekte Aussage

[2BNTV]

Several thoughts:
1. We must look back, to only learn from our mistakes, because if we don't, we are doomed to repeat them.
2. I think the USA surprises everyone, with it's resiliency, and can do attitude.
It's amazing what can be accomplished, when everyone pushes in the same direction.

America has become great because of it's freedoms and the enterprenurial spirit that has made many people rich, and or, well off. Never underestimate what the USA is capable of, when everyone is on the same page.

I glad I got this in, as I am sure this thread, will become political.

Some people sometimes go back to, "the good old days". What was good about the depression, WW2, and people dying from the common cold, as they were no antibotics, etc.

Nuff said.........

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by 2BNTV

Several thoughts:
1. We must look back, to only learn from our mistakes, because if we don't, we are doomed to repeat them.
2. I think the USA surprises everyone, with it's resiliency, and can do attitude.
It's amazing what can be accomplished, when everyone pushes in the same direction.

America has become great because of it's freedoms and the enterprenurial spirit that has made many people rich, and or, well off. Never underestimate what the USA is capable of, when everyone is on the same page.

I glad I got this in, as I am sure this thread, will become political.

Some people sometimes go back to, "the good old days". What was good about the depression, WW2, and people dying from the common cold, as they were no antibotics, etc.

Nuff said.........

Perfect. My point is, that some of the past is Ok, if it worked, but parts of the now are certainly better than the past. Only Rubicon can say it the way we all seem to understand.

[getdul981]

And there's a huge river in Egypt too. De Nile!

[redwitch]

America is not perfect. It never was. Americans can be some of the biggest pains in the rear that exist in the world -- many really do believe they know what is best for everyone else. They can be rude, defensive, arrogant and demanding. They are generous, caring, giving, helpful.

America has been in far more financial trouble in the past than it is now. I don't know if we have a way to get out of mess but I do know that if anyone in this world can survive whatever is thrown at them, it is Americans. It won't be easy; it will take sacrifice by all; it will take both the left and the right working together, but I have faith in this country and its people that it will ultimately all come together.

Stand tall and be proud. This is a great country with some great people living in it. It ain't perfect but it is the best there is.

[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by rubicon

This is a difficult question to address given the limitations of time and space.
Advances in health safety, technology etc. are better.
Morally and socially we are rapidly digressing.
Political leadership is corrupt and lacks vision.
Our educational system has failed miserably and the affects of that failure are now self evident.
The federal government over reach is stripping both industry and private citizens of constitutional rights and compromising our free enterprise system with unnecessary and expensive regulations
I love America also and it is sad to see the America I knew disappear before my eyes.

Wow. I think my dad said the same things in the late 60's. Maybe the early 70's too. I moved out then and found that I had my own set of worries.

[Doctommft]

I'll take the 1980's, when the economy was excellent, people had jobs, and repayment of the debt was attainable.