[graciegirl]

I can't seem to find that statistic.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I can't seem to find that statistic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educat..._United_States

This might help.

[Challenger]

Looks like 42per cent for AA or more and 32per cent for Bachelors

[dewilson58]

Looking for some sort of intelligence???

Not sure if you'll find it there.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Looking for some sort of intelligence???

Not sure if you'll find it there.

I agree dewilson. The reason I ask is that when listening to election returns I am hearing that some of the candidates are getting a large share of "college educated" vote or "blue collar" vote. It made me curious. Some segments of our population who are foreign born have very high education levels and some other segments have very low according to the article from Wikipedia that Tal linked.


I don't judge folks positively or negatively because of the letters after their name. There are some very wise people who have not gone to college and some dummies that have, in my opinion.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I agree dewilson. The reason I ask is that when listening to election returns I am hearing that some of the candidates are getting a large share of "college educated" vote or "blue collar" vote. It made me curious. Some segments of our population who are foreign born have very high education levels and some other segments have very low according to the article from Wikipedia that Tal linked.


I don't judge folks positively or negatively because of the letters after their name. There are some very wise people who have not gone to college and some dummies that have, in my opinion.

Some celebrities are much wiser than some of the academics I have come across at the University of Nevada, Reno; BYU Law School; the University of Denver Graduate School of Librarianship and Information Management; the College of San Mateo; and the University of Minnesota Law School.

If you really want to encounter some teachers with wit and wisdom, Graciegirl, check out the Teaching Company's The Great Courses. The Great Courses

[graciegirl]

I just wonder why this description about education or jobs helps people understand the vote any better? What does it mean? Anybody have any reactions? I know some of the candidates seem to be courting "groups".

[Challenger]

I think that people trying to parse the election results are attempting to understand voting patterns and thereby be more accurate in predictions. It has been clearly established that those with college degrees on average earn considerably more in a lifetime that those without. A preponderance of non degreed persons hold or held jobs that are or will be subject to significant competition from global markets.
This is not a comment on the value of jobs. Almost all jobs have dignity and many of those who I would consider heroes are those who have toiled at lower paid jobs in order to provide for their family.
Many of those of whom I speak are terrified by what they see happening and are looking for someone who promises them a better future.

[chuckinca]

About 15 years after high school I ran into a HS friend. He had three PhD's.

We were both in the unemployment line.


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[Challenger]

Originally Posted by chuckinca

About 15 years after high school I ran into a HS friend. He had three PhD's.

We were both in the unemployment line.


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Proving that there are exceptions to the "rule"

[justjim]

As a general rule, a college degree means more income, that said, much depends on what your major happens to be. An Engineer and a CPA, as examples, will generally earn more lifetime income than a Social worker or art/music major etc. etc. however, a good salesman with ambition and drive (with a high school degree) could make more than all of those so called educated folks. What we are taught at home can never be adequately measured as to how we take advantage of opportunities as they come along in life.

College is more than just courses and grades. You can learn a lot about relationships, success/failures, persistence and independence. The key word here is "can". It's up to each individual. Forty two percent sounds about right.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by chuckinca

About 15 years after high school I ran into a HS friend. He had three PhD's.



We were both in the unemployment line.





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Given the length of time it takes to obtain an undergraduate degree and then 3 PhDs, I would surmise your friend spent the better part, if not all, of those 15 years unemployed. (That assumes that all 3 PhDs are legitimate.)

[chuckinca]

Probably true.

He could still be adding to his tally of degrees. His father was a Prof of Library Science at Univ of Chicago; his younger brother and his buds played poker using about a half dozen or more foreign languages.

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[2BNTV]

Originally Posted by justjim

As a general rule, a college degree means more income, that said, much depends on what your major happens to be. An Engineer and a CPA, as examples, will generally earn more lifetime income than a Social worker or art/music major etc. etc. however, a good salesman with ambition and drive (with a high school degree) could make more than all of those so called educated folks. What we are taught at home can never be adequately measured as to how we take advantage of opportunities as they come along in life.

College is more than just courses and grades. You can learn a lot about relationships, success/failures, persistence and independence. The key word here is "can". It's up to each individual. Forty two percent sounds about right.

Several people have taken the courses and passed, so they obtained their college degree. I have known several people who have degrees and are no brighter than some people who don't have degrees. Being intelligent doesn't mean you have to have a degree.

Following the elections, one is better to have a self possessed BS meter. It is better to be intelligent to see through what the candidates are really saying, so we don't wind up with someone we will wind up lamenting that we chose them.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I agree dewilson. The reason I ask is that when listening to election returns I am hearing that some of the candidates are getting a large share of "college educated" vote or "blue collar" vote. It made me curious. Some segments of our population who are foreign born have very high education levels and some other segments have very low according to the article from Wikipedia that Tal linked.


I don't judge folks positively or negatively because of the letters after their name. There are some very wise people who have not gone to college and some dummies that have, in my opinion.

I've never been asked to participate in an exit poll. Do they ask, "Are you blue collar?", "Do you have a college degree?". Just wonder how they get this data.