[Bassdeer]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

They had an expert on crashes who thinks it might have been bad chemicals in the fuel . This was on CNN.

Yea, they have a great track record, let's go with that.

[elle123]

Originally Posted by sunnyFLORIDA5828

Happened upon a video of the 787 from behind taking off and crashing. Little doubt it was pilot error. The wing flaps were not in takeoff/landing position. Virtually flat. And the plane apparently stalled shortly after wheels off the runway. 254+ killed. So sad. Can’t link the videos. Several videos distinctly show this issue.

Maybe, the pilot had a stroke.

[Cliff Fr]

Originally Posted by sunnyFLORIDA5828

Happened upon a video of the 787 from behind taking off and crashing. Little doubt it was pilot error. The wing flaps were not in takeoff/landing position. Virtually flat. And the plane apparently stalled shortly after wheels off the runway. 254+ killed. So sad. Can’t link the videos. Several videos distinctly show this issue.

Sabotage? They did just exchange shooting with Pakistan.

[La lamy]

I bet the survivor's miraculous survival will lead to his seat 11A being quite popular on that type of aircraft! There is something to be said for being next to an emergency exit!!!
I hope he doesn't have survivor's guilt like a lot of people in that circumstance experience. What a horrific tragedy.

[Joe C.]

It's Air India.
They don't have a good track record. Many of their planes are 2nd or 3rd hand leftovers. However, this one wasn't. Need to wait for whatever the black boxes reveal.

[talonip]

I was an airline pilot for 33 years and military for over 20. If the flaps or trims and other things were not set for takeoff correctly there are
very loud warnings in the cockpit when throttles are advanced for takeoff. Annoying WARNINGS.
Let the NTSB or Indian equivalent get the FDR and voice recorders and we will eventually get to the truth

[Sgt Ed]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

How could an experienced pilot do that?

Maybe a mechanical problem kept the flaps from extending. Then again there are indicators in the cockpit

[Bodrum]

Originally Posted by sunnyFLORIDA5828

Happened upon a video of the 787 from behind taking off and crashing. Little doubt it was pilot error. The wing flaps were not in takeoff/landing position. Virtually flat. And the plane apparently stalled shortly after wheels off the runway. 254+ killed. So sad. Can’t link the videos. Several videos distinctly show this issue.

The 787 as well as all modern airplanes have a warning system that goes off when the throttles are advanced, and the takeoff configurations are incorrect

[airstreamingypsy]

The plane was having electronic problems earlier that day. A passenger on the earlier flight posted a video showing him trying to use the touchscreen at his seat, and nothing was working. I don't know if that would have any connection to the crash, but if the pilot's electronics were also not working........ The black box will tell the tale.

[DonnaNi4os]

[As the widow of a pilot who died in a similar manner I can only say that it is too soon to judge. In my husband’s case the gust lock had been released for take off and the plane had the lift, so proving it was released. Once it took off and achieved elevation the gust lock malfunctioned preventing steering and the plane took a nose dive with a full tank of gas. It took a full year to determine the cause. My heart is breaking for the families that lost their loved ones. The only survivor is truly a miracle man. God clearly isn’t done with him yet.

[idlewild]

From what I have observed and read, this cause of the crash was most likely due to pilot error. Specifically, the first officer should have retracked the landing gear at about 50 feet following what appeared to be a normal routine takeoff. Instead, he/she most likely mistakenly retracted the flaps which lead to the loss of lift at the time when the landing gear should have normally been retracted. The pilot probably did not know this had happened and was unable to recover in time.

Nothing suggests power failure either due to a bird strike or engine failure nor do I think the flaps were set improperly (5%) for takeoff. Instead, I sadly believe it was due to the flaps being mistakenly retracted prematurely instead of the landing gear which lead to the loss of lift shortly after takeoff.

[HappyTraveler]

Originally Posted by idlewild

..... cause of the crash was most likely due to pilot error.

Here we go again running around making accusations based on miniscule information.

See link in Comment #8.

Let's wait and allow investigators to do their work rather than giving THE MEDIA too much credit for actually knowing about what they're reporting.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

You couldn't possibly have posted anything more irresponsible, than blaming someone for the deaths of 254+ people, based on viewing a Youtube video.

Do you have an FAA Airman's Certificate? Do you know not all airplanes use "flaps" for takeoff? Do you know the circumstances when flaps aren't used?

Flaps are used 100% of the time when an airliner takes off; the flaps on that flight were not down, which WOULD have provided additional lift, and the landing gear were still down, which ADDED a lot of additional drag. Something went bad wrong with that flight.

[nn0wheremann]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

How could an experienced pilot do that?

Hubris?

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by sunnyFLORIDA5828

Happened upon a video of the 787 from behind taking off and crashing. Little doubt it was pilot error. The wing flaps were not in takeoff/landing position. Virtually flat. And the plane apparently stalled shortly after wheels off the runway. 254+ killed. So sad. Can’t link the videos. Several videos distinctly show this issue.

You are not the first one to make this observation. People I know agree with this. We shall see if this was the cause and whether the cause was pilot or mechanical.