[Fastskiguy]

Originally Posted by terryf484

Apples and Oranges - The study was concerned about a "surge or acceleration" of global warming not on global warming. Definite difference between the two.

"Global warming" refers to the long-term increase in Earth's average temperature, while a "surge in global warming" indicates a sudden and significant acceleration in the rate of temperature increase, meaning a rapid jump beyond the typical warming trend, often signifying a more drastic and immediate climate change impact than the gradual warming alone; essentially, a "surge" implies a rapid spike in warming beyond the established rate of increase.

This ^^

Every chart in the article shows warming, they are just saying that they can't prove it is warming at an increasing rate....yet.

I'd say read the paper, it clearly doesn't say what you think it says.

Or read this

Evidence for global warming

The science is that the planet is warming. You can debate why but warming is a fact.

Joe

[DonnaNi4os]

Perhaps it’s a combination of a natural global warming of the world that has been expedited by human consumption. Either way, there is no denying that we had an extremely hot summer in Florida. (Signed: captain obvious)

[LarryL]

Here is a link you should check: What evidence exists that Earth is warming and that humans are the main cause? | NOAA Climate.gov

[Normal]

This research link is just like the major news that violent crime rose more than 4% in 2024 as reported by the FBI, but the stats were released quietly 2 days ago. One thing seems certain, climate data will fit the agenda of the publisher.

[LarryL]

Here is a link that should be helpful. What evidence exists that Earth is warming and that humans are the main cause? | NOAA Climate.gov

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe

Objective, scientific "proof" that there is no recent surge in global warming.

A recent surge in global warming is not detectable yet | Communications Earth & Environment

I just read that article and noticed there was a graph that showed a rapid increase in temperature after 1990. I have seen other graphs like that when I Goggle - earth temperature changes over time. It seems to me that the whole Earth temperatures have increased rapidly in the last 5 years. That can be confirmed by looking at the oceans rapid rise in the last 5 years also. The rise is greater than linear - it is exponential. I would be only guessing, but I believe that the CO2 and methane in the upper atmosphere has increased rapidly (related to world population increases) in recent years and is refracting greater heat energy back to the Earth. And remember the polar regions have seen 4 times the heat as we have in the US. The future is likely to have continued warming and that included the ocean waters round Florida. The heated water could likely produce even stronger hurricanes than we have experienced (so far) this summer.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Yet I have no doubt that the indoctrinated, gullible and true believers in global warming will not be convinced. I can almost hear them racing to their keyboards as I type

The race to the keyboards is........ON. To my dedicated keyboard Global Warming fellow soldiers - do NOT fire your TRUTH arrows until you see the whites of their LIES----------tee, hee--------get it Lies - white lies - not eyes. Oh, my funny bone is tingling with joy !!!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe

Not leading with my bias, simply leading with a synopsis for those too lazy, disinterested, or unable to "follow the science."

Global warming IS settled Science at this point. The Tonga, Tonga, Tonga theory had no merit. Neither does the Earth wobble theory. Nor does the going back to the pre-historic time theory. Neither does the pre-historic discussion of amount of CO2 in the atmosphere mean anything compare to today's man made recent CO2 and methane increases. To fix a problem this IMPORTANT - first US and world governments must admit that it is mankind's biggest future problem. The United Nations is way more aware of this problem than the US. We are spinning our wheels hoping for esoteric solutions to misinformed bogey man theories like Tonga, Tonga, Tonga.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

No one is concerned about global warming anymore, that's been pretty much debunked as nonsense.

It's all about "climate change".

That way, the believers are still on point, if we get global warming, global freezing or ... it stays the same, they can still claim "climate change", because it's supposed to either cool or warm!

They have all the bases covered.

Calling a REAL problem a FAKE problem leads to no (ZERO) solutions. They are building seawalls in Broward County. and Miami Beach keeps flooding. Look up conditions about the tundra in Alaska and Russia where problems are 4 times as great as we have it in the lower latitudes.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe

^ Concur. Seems at least 1-2x/week there's a poster or two that resurrects the subject like Lazarus.

If there is any topic I would love to see Perma-banned from the site, it's ALL things global warming / climate change / other related myths and hysterias.

Advocating banning subjects is a step toward banning books and banning knowledge. That makes for devolution and a sad, sad world.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by davefin

Yes, global warming is real, it has scientific evidence going back billions of years. It's a cycle, about every 26,000 years. Yes, we are still coming off the last Ice Age. "Global Warming" is NOT caused by the human occupation of the Earth. It's a cycle folks and we are just along for the ride. Just deal with it!

Why then do 95% of all Scientists say that MAN-MADE Global Warming is REAL. The problem is that too many average people want everything to stay the same (it never does) so they PRETEND that Scientists (somehow) are just excitable dummies.
.......Many years ago Al Gore was eviscerated for presenting facts and trends on Global Warming. His warnings have come TRUE. But, the OIL industry had millions of dollars of advertisements that could fight and twist Gores facts. Today many people in the US still are under the SPELL woven by the BIG OIL and BIG automobile manufacturers to confuse the masses in the US. Today there are 8 billion people on Earth producing vast quantities of CO2 and Methane that are polluting the Earth and the negative effects (like hurricanes and tornadoes) will continue and increase.

[jminnis]

Richard Allan, Professor of Climate Science, University of Reading and National Centre for Earth Observations, said:

“In fact, when all lines of evidence are scrutinized it is apparent that climate change is accelerating rather continuing steadily. Halting global warming by stabilizing Earth’s climate and limiting further damage from worsening extreme weather and rising sea levels is only possible through rapid and massive cuts in greenhouse gas emissions.”

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Rocksnap

Most of us living here in TV have many decades behind us. Therefore, most of us remember all the warnings of ‘global warming, we will all die within 10 years if we don’t fix this’, then the ‘global cooling, we will all die within 10 years if we don’t fix this’, coincidentally cycling back and forth every 10 years when we didn’t all die. Yet here we are. Sea levels haven’t budged, and we are all still alive.

Sea levels have risen. Just Google "sea level rise recently". World sea level ROSE 4 INCHES from 1993 to 2023. On a graph the rise is greater than linear, it is exponential.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by hypart

The study compares the rate of warming from 1970-2012 and compares it to the rate of warming from 2013 to the present. It's conclusion is that the warming rate has not increased in recent years.

Just because there isn't an increase in the rate of warming doesn't mean that global temperatures aren't warming. There just isn't enough data to say it's a surge.


Per study:
"In short, a 40% increase in the 2013–2040 warming rate relative to the 1970–2012 rate will be needed to declare a significant warming surge by 2040."

So, basically, the warming trend is steady.

If you have a tumor and it's steadily growing at 10% per year..... Yay?

You still have a problem.

Every graph from Scientists that I have looked at shows a rapid increase in temperatures in the last 5 years. Read about Alaskan tundra and Russian. Temperature increases there are 4 times that of our latitudes.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Windguy

Seriously? There was actually some respected climate scientist who said we were all going to die in 10 years? I think I might have heard about it if it were true.

I agree that I doubt the "10 years and all dead " thing was ever stated by Scientists. Scientists tend to disagree about the severity of the Global warming problem - particularly about whether it is REVERSIBLE or NOT. Some believe that we have passed that point or are getting close to that point.