[Abby10]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Folks need to keep in mind, that the 'pure opinion' piece in the OP link was written by a marketing person...and their opinion on how to market to certain age groups.


It's not like it has anything to do with...actual facts, peer-reviewed-studies or real science of any kind.

There were facts in the article regarding each era, then assumptions made about people who were raised in specific generations. I think most of us are aware it is not a scientific study and that's why we all have our own opinions about it. It's not factual, but food for thought. Nothing wrong with that if used in a positive manner to come to a better understanding of what makes different people think and act in certain ways. Sometimes it may be the case, and sometimes not, but nevertheless gives one some background on the differences of the time frames in which we were raised and how that might impact us.

Sorry but I view it as pure propaganda.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Abby10

There were facts in the article regarding each era, then assumptions made about people who were raised in specific generations. I think most of us are aware it is not a scientific study and that's why we all have our own opinions about it. It's not factual, but food for thought. Nothing wrong with that if used in a positive manner to come to a better understanding of what makes different people think and act in certain ways. Sometimes it may be the case, and sometimes not, but nevertheless gives one some background on the differences of the time frames in which we were raised and how that might impact us.

Many of us think the same way, but can't say it so beautifully. One thing for sure is that we are making great strides as time goes by, trying to understand others, both in family life and in behavioral science where it has been learned that many personality traits are inherited.. It still takes patience, overlooking a lot, and great strength and perception to continue any relationship for a long time. A sense of humor and good old common sense is a great help in getting along with others.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by fw102807

Sorry but I view it as pure propaganda.

And a pathetic attempt at denigration...of certain 'generations.'


Just my 'most excellent and superior generation' opinion...of course.

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

And a pathetic attempt at denigration...of certain 'generations.'


Just my 'most excellent and superior generation' opinion...of course.

Of course.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Abby10

There were facts in the article regarding each era, then assumptions made about people who were raised in specific generations. I think most of us are aware it is not a scientific study and that's why we all have our own opinions about it. It's not factual, but food for thought. Nothing wrong with that if used in a positive manner to come to a better understanding of what makes different people think and act in certain ways. Sometimes it may be the case, and sometimes not, but nevertheless gives one some background on the differences of the time frames in which we were raised and how that might impact us.

You are correct, of course.

My posts are aimed at those who immediately dismiss young people as spoiled, unaware, "all about me", etc. I suppose all noted that the group of millennials we speak of are "Definitely poorer" than all of us were at the same time in our life, which is proven true. THAT alone can cause frustration as it may seem to them that they are being left behind as we read of the rich and powerful misusing what God has allowed them to garner, whether on their own or otherwise.

I see very little difference in people of millennial age from now to when I fit in that category. Fact is, I see very little difference in people in general.........HOWEVER, recognize the changes in society, technology, and the changes which have made our world so much "smaller" than it was when I was that age.

I also, by the way object to many generalizations of folks my age (I was born in 1939). WE are not all the same by any stretch, and I give that same latitude to those younger.

Experience is a good teacher, but we are not all good students in ANY generation.

The young man in Nashville who was a hero in the Waffle House shooting, and since has raised almost $200,000 to help the families of survivors is a great example of fine young people, and he is never mentioned on here or much anywhere, which has baffled me since our society seems ready to pounce on any negative. The "greatest generation" should be respected and held in awe. They were forced to fight a war to remain free, and they also overcame a depression, but even during the "greatest generation". There is book called "Dreadful" which, AS WITH Brokaw's book be taken as it is presented. 16 Million Americans served in WW2 and not all were brave or even good.

Point is, generalization is not a good or healthy thing. We are products of a lot of input, but other than the societal changes that force some change, we are always the same human beings.

As a young Catholic altar boy, I met a guy my age who was black, extremely poor and had a chip on his shoulder. We met quite by accident as I walked to church one Saturday night because I was scheduled to serve that evening in about 1953. He was loud, brash, cocky and frankly scared the hell out of me. In the early 80's, I was proud to attend his first mass celebration as a priest and his first sermon was relative to the winding journey to get where he was. I wonder how many, as I guess I did, passed judgement on him because he was young and brash and black ?

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Most baby boomers are spoiled little brats. Hence the name baby boomers.. now, some think they are bad? Nothing compared to baby boomers kids/kids which are twice as spoiled, which are the ultimate do Nothing kids except live at home and play on the cell phone or on the computer violent video games which alter the brain from reality. Small portions are so far gone they want to be popular and bring gun to school and make name for their themselves with they're pathetic altered brain, which was influenced by TV, movie theater, and video games. Now, you just wait if they can produce and they're kids not raised by grandparents or the state, you haven't seen nothing yet.

Blanket statements and accusations are never accurate. This BS is just plain wrong. How dare you characterize my hard-working husband and I as spoiled and our respectful, successful kids as do nothings.

Or any of the successful parents of respectful kids in this country.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Bucco

You are correct, of course.

My posts are aimed at those who immediately dismiss young people as spoiled, unaware, "all about me", etc. I suppose all noted that the group of millennials we speak of are "Definitely poorer" than all of us were at the same time in our life, which is proven true. THAT alone can cause frustration as it may seem to them that they are being left behind as we read of the rich and powerful misusing what God has allowed them to garner, whether on their own or otherwise.

I see very little difference in people of millennial age from now to when I fit in that category. Fact is, I see very little difference in people in general.........HOWEVER, recognize the changes in society, technology, and the changes which have made our world so much "smaller" than it was when I was that age.

I also, by the way object to many generalizations of folks my age (I was born in 1939). WE are not all the same by any stretch, and I give that same latitude to those younger.

Experience is a good teacher, but we are not all good students in ANY generation.

The young man in Nashville who was a hero in the Waffle House shooting, and since has raised almost $200,000 to help the families of survivors is a great example of fine young people, and he is never mentioned on here or much anywhere, which has baffled me since our society seems ready to pounce on any negative. The "greatest generation" should be respected and held in awe. They were forced to fight a war to remain free, and they also overcame a depression, but even during the "greatest generation". There is book called "Dreadful" which, AS WITH Brokaw's book be taken as it is presented. 16 Million Americans served in WW2 and not all were brave or even good.

Point is, generalization is not a good or healthy thing. We are products of a lot of input, but other than the societal changes that force some change, we are always the same human beings.

As a young Catholic altar boy, I met a guy my age who was black, extremely poor and had a chip on his shoulder. We met quite by accident as I walked to church one Saturday night because I was scheduled to serve that evening in about 1953. He was loud, brash, cocky and frankly scared the hell out of me. In the early 80's, I was proud to attend his first mass celebration as a priest and his first sermon was relative to the winding journey to get where he was. I wonder how many, as I guess I did, passed judgement on him because he was young and brash and black ?

Originally Posted by CFrance

Blanket statements and accusations are never accurate. This BS is just plain wrong. How dare you characterize my hard-working husband and I as spoiled and our respectful, successful kids as do nothings.

Or any of the successful parents of respectful kids in this country.

Two VERY excellent posts!

[Boomer]

Originally Posted by Bucco

WE......POSTERS are the only thing that has changed. We got older.

I add this link from BBC in Oct discussing this issue where we generalize so much, ESPECIALLY in the USA.

BBC - Capital - What everyone gets wrong about 'millennial snowflakes'

Did you realize that children living with their parents peaked in the 1940's, and is NOT a phenom of the current age ?

The author ends this with this.....

"So basically, millennials are the same as other generations were at their age. Only a little different. More global, maybe. More diverse. More progressive. Definitely poorer. But a unique group of monsters, the entitled wrath of which the world has ever seen before? I’m not so sure."

This is not a serious study but simple an observation that I agree with. To make ourselves feel good, we tend to make any other generation the bad guys, the worst ever.

Changes happen and we are quick to judge, but somehow we always are the best ever and the young folks are the worst. THAT does not seem to change ever.

Personally, I think it would be great if we stopped judging based on the dumbest things and started listening to each other, helping each other, and learning from each other

YAY! Bucco! I like what you wrote. I bet we would get along just fine. I don’t care what generation you are from. And yes, my name is Boomer.

(I think there are a bunch of people who are mad at the millennials because the millennials don’t want their stuff — literally and/or figuratively.)

Even old, middle aged, young. In the end we will all be judged alike.

[rustyp]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Most baby boomers are spoiled little brats. Hence the name baby boomers.. now, some think they are bad? Nothing compared to baby boomers kids/kids which are twice as spoiled, which are the ultimate do Nothing kids except live at home and play on the cell phone or on the computer violent video games which alter the brain from reality. Small portions are so far gone they want to be popular and bring gun to school and make name for their themselves with they're pathetic altered brain, which was influenced by TV, movie theater, and video games. Now, you just wait if they can produce and they're kids not raised by grandparents or the state, you haven't seen nothing yet.

I know some of those vidiots your referring to as do nothing kids.

- Some are protecting your bank account every day
- Rooms full of them are protecting our infrastructure like the electric grid and our water supply 24 hours per day
- Some of them monitor and protect our pilots from radar jamming
- Some of them write software for state of the art medical devices enabling us to live longer

Some of those vidiots even dared to give up their video games and explore other fields like doctors, nurses, lawyers, firemen, etc. Maybe even one or two had a hand in building your home here behind the gates.

Originally Posted by rustyp

I know some of those vidiots your referring to as do nothing kids.

- Some are protecting your bank account every day
- Rooms full of them are protecting our infrastructure like the electric grid and our water supply 24 hours per day
- Some of them monitor and protect our pilots from radar jamming
- Some of them write software for state of the art medical devices enabling us to live longer

Some of those vidiots even dared to give up their video games and explore other fields like doctors, nurses, lawyers, firemen, etc. Maybe even one or two had a hand in building your home here behind the gates.

That's because they don't make the news.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

Mature/Silent here, and I must disagree with the statement that chewing gum in class or passing notes were the gravest offences. I regularly got caught with more than five marbles, a sure indication that I had relieved another kid of his aggies and cats eyes via the forbidden game of "keepsies". Penalty....relieved of all my marbles and thirty precious minutes added to my school day....occasionally, a paddle might be involved.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by CFrance

Blanket statements and accusations are never accurate. This BS is just plain wrong. How dare you characterize my hard-working husband and I as spoiled and our respectful, successful kids as do nothings.

Or any of the successful parents of respectful kids in this country.

Well said

[manaboutown]

And the dumbing down continues...65% of Public School 8th Graders Not Proficient in Reading; 67% Not Proficient in Math