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Surgeon General apologized for saying Pot was bad for the brain. Actually research in Israel shows amazing work with people with brain damage. Seems marijuana helped them.
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I think some automatically fear what they don't understand. I am hopeful we will continue to improve both our medical and mental treatments. We open minded folks must fight against being drug (no pun) back into the cave. It appears to me that we have two major categories of people:

1. Those that love the Good Ole Days.
2. Those that strive for Better New Days.
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I think some automatically fear what they don't understand. I am hopeful we will continue to improve both our medical and mental treatments. We open minded folks must fight against being drug (no pun) back into the cave. It appears to me that we have two major categories of people:

1. Those that love the Good Ole Days.
2. Those that strive for Better New Days.

Everyone wants to see our medical capabilities increase ... as usual, it's a question of how. Regarding your two categories of people ... I see it somewhat differently.

1. those that learn from history and human nature in order to make progress

2. those who think good intentions alone are sufficient, vs actually achieving good results while often generating unintended consequences instead
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Everyone wants to see our medical capabilities increase ... as usual, it's a question of how. Regarding your two categories of people ... I see it somewhat differently.

1. those that learn from history and human nature in order to make progress

2. those who think good intentions alone are sufficient, vs actually achieving good results while often generating unintended consequences instead
Every prescription drugs has a list of side effects that would make you think twice. Pot is no different.

The question for any drug is - Does the benefit outweigh the risk? There are studies on both sides for marijuana.
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Every prescription drugs has a list of side effects that would make you think twice. Pot is no different.

The question for any drug is - Does the benefit outweigh the risk? There are studies on both sides for marijuana.
I watched an interchange on TV between Governor Chris Christie and a man whose two year old had a seizure disorder that apparently could/might be helped by a rare form of marijuana not covered by a prescription.

Christie was not diplomatic and the dad was not presenting his case very well.

The dad was understandably distraught but the real medical needs for his little one did not seem to be clear and appeared to me to be undoable or unrealistic. Christie was being a politician and a bit crass.

Interchanges like this cause people to become more polarized and then emotional arguments with glittering generalities are thrown at each other and underneath it all is the general suspicion from many of us that a good amount of folks want a new legal way to get high. Which could be alright and make less problems in the courts and we could go after the really bad guys.

I just like it when a spade is called a spade and not salvation for people with toothaches.
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Every prescription drugs has a list of side effects that would make you think twice. Pot is no different.

The question for any drug is - Does the benefit outweigh the risk? There are studies on both sides for marijuana.
And that should be decided by the medical community.
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CNN 'Weed' Documentary Follows Sanjay Gupta's Reversal On Marijuana

I saw the documentary. There was a life-saving benefit to a five year old with seizures...


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I watched an interchange on TV between Governor Chris Christie and a man whose two year old had a seizure disorder that apparently could/might be helped by a rare form of marijuana not covered by a prescription.

Christie was not diplomatic and the dad was not presenting his case very well.

The dad was understandably distraught but the real medical needs for his little one did not seem to be clear and appeared to me to be undoable or unrealistic. Christie was being a politician and a bit crass.

Interchanges like this cause people to become more polarized and then emotional arguments with glittering generalities are thrown at each other and underneath it all is the general suspicion from many of us that a good amount of folks want a new legal way to get high. Which could be alright and make less problems in the courts and we could go after the really bad guys.

I just like it when a spade is called a spade and not salvation for people with toothaches.
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CNN 'Weed' Documentary Follows Sanjay Gupta's Reversal On Marijuana

I saw the documentary. There was a life-saving benefit to a five year old with seizures...
I am NOT disputing it can happen. I am disputing the way people dispute.
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Legalize it now. Then I'm going over to Patty's house and then to the buffet.
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And that should be decided by the medical community.
Well, if we are talking a strictly limited medical solution, no one disagrees with that. However, the underlying issue as others have noted is the concern it will become liberalized and expanded over time and thus a back door to legalization of pot -- which is far more than just a medical issue.

FL had a reputation for being a "pill factory" not too long ago so it's reasonable to be concerned about the potential for abuse.
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If pot becomes legal, which I hope never happens, will it be legal for the food companies too? Of course it will. Legal means legal. Will food companies offer brownies laced with marijuana? Marijuana cookies? Marijuana baked into pizza crust? How about many other baked goods like bread, muffins, cakes, and pies?

Other unintended consequences: 63% of people are already overweight and obese. If marijuana is given to elderly people (and others) to treat poor apetite, don't you think it will have the same effect on everyone eles who uses it? So what will the general effect be on the U.S. population? Will we have ever rising numbers of overweight/obese people? Diets are already being undermined in various ways, and this will just add to it, in my opinion.

When marijuana users get the "munchies", they don't get the munchies for healthy whole foods. They get the munchies for high-calorie salty snack-foods like chips 'n' dips, cheese 'n' crackers, or sugary items like pie 'n' ice cream etc..
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If pot becomes legal, which I hope never happens, will it be legal for the food companies too? Of course it will. Legal means legal. Will food companies offer brownies laced with marijuana? Marijuana cookies? Marijuana baked into pizza crust? How about many other baked goods like bread, muffins, cakes, and pies?

Other unintended consequences: 63% of people are already overweight and obese. If marijuana is given to elderly people (and others) to treat poor apetite, don't you think it will have the same effect on everyone eles who uses it? So what will the general effect be on the U.S. population? Will we have ever rising numbers of overweight/obese people? Diets are already being undermined in various ways, and this will just add to it, in my opinion.

When marijuana users get the "munchies", they don't get the munchies for healthy whole foods. They get the munchies for high-calorie salty snack-foods like chips 'n' dips, cheese 'n' crackers, or sugary items like pie 'n' ice cream etc..

I hope it does happen
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When marijuana users get the "munchies", they don't get the munchies for healthy whole foods. They get the munchies for high-calorie salty snack-foods like chips 'n' dips, cheese 'n' crackers, or sugary items like pie 'n' ice cream etc..
Hmmmmmm .... You seem to know a lot about the munchies!
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If the whole world smoked a joint at the same time, There would be world peace for at least two hours.
Followed by a global food shortage.
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