[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Some how, my Bride knows what I'm thinking.

There is a lot of THAT going on in our house too.

The Salk Institute has researched the fact that certain people are more tuned into facial expressions and body language than others. Many people affected with Williams Syndrome were better at this than the general population. AND

Some people with Autism are less likely to pick up social or emotional cues from others faces or body language than the general population and those with the same level of cognitive functioning. Dr. Ursula Belugi has researched this kind of thing for more than twenty years.

[Wiotte]

Or maybe,




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[Carl in Tampa]

Originally Posted by JoelJohnson

If anyone could have done it, Harry Houdini would have.

More about that under my second point, below.

1. James Randi, who was a stage illusionist (magician), became convinced that "Psychics" and "Mediums" were fakes who used tricks similar to the "magic tricks" of other stage magicians for the purpose of deluding people into believing in Psychic abilities, usually for the purpose of making money and gaining fame.

Accordingly, he raised $1,000,000 (one million dollars) which he offered to anyone who could "demonstrate evidence of any paranormal, supernatural, or occult power or event under test conditions agreed to by both parties." Although many people made the attempt, including on live television, no one ever was able to claim the prize.

At the bottom of this page I am linking a 17 minute video in which Randi discusses phony Psychic abilities, as well as the farce of homeopathic medicine. It is worth your time to view this video.

Incidentally, there are videos on youtube in which Randi debunks James Hydrick, Maureen Flynn, Uri Geller (the spoon bender) and Faith Healer Peter Popoff. The trickery used by Popoff is reproduced in the Chevy Chase movie Fletch Lives.

2. Now about Harry Houdini. Like Randi, Houdini was a professional illusionist, and also an escape artist. Unlike Randi, Houdini wanted desperately to believe in being able to communicate with the dead. That is why he started going to Mediums. However, as a professional illusionist, he quickly saw through their deceits, and became disillusioned. Thereafter, he undertook to determine the methods of each Medium so he could expose them.

Houdini had his appendix ruptured in a freak accident. Knowing that he was dying he told his wife that if there were any way possible he would communicate with her after his death. He never did.


3. My examples above might lead you to believe that I don't believe that it is possible to communicate with the dead. Well, hold that thought for a minute.

I am a Christian. The Bible tells me that we should not consult mediums or attempt to communicate with the dead.

a. "There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices witchcraft, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who casts a spell, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. - Deut. 18:10-11

b. "Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God." Lev. 19:31

MY CONCLUSION is that either:

Psychics and/or Mediums are phony, skillful illusionists who use trickery to deceive people, either for fame or for financial gain, or

There are Mediums who have occult powers, but God forbids having any interaction with them.

James Randi: Homeopathy, quackery and fraud | TED Talk | TED.com

[gomsiepop]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I think I remember in the original thread there was mention of tickets to see this local woman at the Unitarian Church? Tickets usually mean money.

I read a few articles about this medium and she is requesting a donation of $10.00 a person. I think that amount is quite fair.

[Wiotte]

Originally Posted by gomsiepop

I read a few articles about this medium and she is requesting a donation of $10.00 a person. I think that amount is quite fair.

My last posting regarding this was deleted. Again, what Christian church would allow a medium through it's doors ? Am I missing something here ?


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[CWGUY]

Originally Posted by Wiotte

My last posting regarding this was deleted. Again, what Christian church would allow a medium through it's doors ? Am I missing something here ?


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[Carl in Tampa]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

There is a Spiritualist Camp there.

Cassadaga Spiritualist Camp

OK, Christians, before you fall into error, click on the link to the Cassadaga Spiritualist Camp and read their own words, "Spiritualism is a religion that is not based on a relationship with a particular savior. It recognizes all prophets that have come to humankind throughout the ages, not setting one above the other.

Christians associate themselves with this "religion" at great risk.

[Wiotte]

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa

OK, Christians, before you fall into error, click on the link to the Cassadaga Spiritualist Camp and read their own words, "Spiritualism is a religion that is not based on a relationship with a particular savior. It recognizes all prophets that have come to humankind throughout the ages, not setting one above the other.

Christians associate themselves with this "religion" at great risk.

Tell that to the pastor of Unity.


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[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by 2newyorkers

There is a town north of Deltona, Florida called Cassadaga. It calls itself a spiritual camp. You must be a certified psychic to live in this town. You can have a reading or a seance. I am a skeptic so I have never paid for a reading but I have been in a group seance. They use a tilt table at the seance. It was a hoot and not scary at all. Google it if interested.

Now I know psychiatrists certify psychos but who certifies psychics?

Meanwhile, I am still stuck on trying to understand the cause of the Taos Hum which some believe may be spirits attempting to contact the living (without the need of a medium?). The Taos Hum - Aquiziam

[dewilson58]

How do you know the dead is not talking thru this website??

[fred53]

No. You can not communicate with the dead. Most people can barely communicate with the living. I suppose if you're hard up enough you'll do anything to speak to those you've lost, but it's you who are lost and those who tell you they can having the last laugh. Extreme longing will make people do and believe just about anything. Really sad.

[Carl in Tampa]

Originally Posted by Wiotte

My last posting regarding this was deleted. Again, what Christian church would allow a medium through it's doors ? Am I missing something here ?


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At the risk of another deletion, and making no reference to any post on any other thread, Unity Church is not a Christian Church within the traditional Christian tradition.

When I was younger, my dad had an interest in Unity and we attended a couple of meetings. Unity Church followers believe in the divinity of Jesus, but only in the sense that all humans are the children of God and share that divine potential. They believe that Jesus was a master teacher who expressed this divine potential and sought to show others how to do the same. Unity uses the term "Christ" to mean the divinity in all people. For them Jesus is the great example of the Christ in physical form.

This is outside the mainstream of Christian belief and is unacceptable. It may also explain why a spiritualist (religion) person is welcome in a Unity Church.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

How do you know the dead is not talking thru this website??

Some of the responses have had me wondering but it would be quite hard to type with no fingers or even hands.

[Carl in Tampa]

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa
OK, Christians, before you fall into error, click on the link to the Cassadaga Spiritualist Camp and read their own words, "Spiritualism is a religion that is not based on a relationship with a particular savior. It recognizes all prophets that have come to humankind throughout the ages, not setting one above the other.

Christians associate themselves with this "religion" at great risk.

Originally Posted by Wiotte

Tell that to the pastor of Unity.


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Unity is outside the mainstream of traditional Christianity, as I explain in another post, which you are free to read.

[Challenger]

" Fools and their funds are early parted" old English adage

Sad commentary on scammers who take advantage of emotionally distressed people.