Natural gas stoves cause asthma

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Old 01-06-2023, 08:17 PM
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Where is the scientific support? A statement with no authoritative source is meaningless. Something you expect fro VN letters to editor
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As clearly reported in the link, the commissioner is NOT going directly to banning gas stoves. Maybe read the story. It is one possibility if, and only if, the data requires such a move. I have read some of the meta analysis and some of the 80 references in that analysis. The conclusion that gas stoves are linked to increased respiratory illness is very strong. Older homes with older stoves are a higher risk. Ventilation makes a difference.
All that is being done here, despite the hang wringing and anti government blah blah blah above, is that the Consumer Protection Agency is going to look into the problem. Period. Their options are anything from doing nothing to banning gas stoves.
Really?

"We need to be talking about regulating gas stoves, whether that’s drastically improving emissions or banning gas stoves entirely,” said Commissioner Richard Trumka. “And I think we ought to keep that possibility of a ban in mind, because it’s a powerful tool in our tool belt and it’s a real possibility here.”

The commissioner should stick to identifying issues without threatening obtuse solutions.
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Old 01-06-2023, 09:44 PM
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You are more than welcome to make that suggestion as this agency always has a public comment option available.

Here is a recall just issued for carbon monoxide risk for one brand of gas stoves sold at Home Depot, Lowes and Best Buy
ZLINE Recalls Gas Ranges Due to Serious Risk of Injury or Death from Carbon Monoxide Poisoning | CPSC.gov
Unrelated, not nitrogen dioxide...

My bet is those units shipped configured for propane and not NG.
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Old 01-07-2023, 02:10 AM
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Who knew? Could be banned in 2023 by Consumer Product Safety Commission. IMO, it’s the smoke that is reflected in mirrors that causes the most harm.
That's a shock ! Can you imagine the 3, 4, and 5 star chefs of the world cooking on ELECTRIC stoves ? There is going to be some back lash. Probably as large as the back lash from pilots if/when they balk at flying those electric planes with the long, long extension cords !

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What's next Gas Dryers...
Probably yes, based on my experience with the MAGNIFICENT idea of making washers one can NOT fill completely with water, and then beats and tears your clothes to shreds since they are barely moistened. Someone needs to (or maybe HAS) invented a washer with a kind of "dial" on it where you can adjust the water level to your personal liking... NOT "Maytag's" liking ! Ug !
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Old 01-07-2023, 09:35 AM
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lots of anti-change, judgmental, grumpy old men on this thread. . .
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Old 01-07-2023, 10:48 AM
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Looks like the current building codes require venting gas stoves to the outside and providing make up air directly into the kitchen at higher level of ventilation.

Range Hood Vent Code (2023 Requirements) - Home Inspector Secrets

Also vent hood fans turn on automaticly once they detect heat from cooking.

This should mitigate the risk at least for new construction.
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Old 01-07-2023, 10:50 AM
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Probably yes, based on my experience with the MAGNIFICENT idea of making washers one can NOT fill completely with water, and then beats and tears your clothes to shreds since they are barely moistened. Someone needs to (or maybe HAS) invented a washer with a kind of "dial" on it where you can adjust the water level to your personal liking... NOT "Maytag's" liking ! Ug !
There are washers that allow you to set the water level and/or manually add water before starting a cycle.
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Is this covering the 'Vent-less gas heaters' ?
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Old 01-07-2023, 01:17 PM
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I tried to post a link to the product in question ...

lowes.com/pl/Vent-free--Gas-space-heaters-Gas-heaters-Portable-space-heaters-Heating-cooling/4294765334?refinement=4294749887
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lots of anti-change, judgmental, grumpy old men on this thread. . .
You mean realists don’t you?
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Read Florida state building regulations chapter 5 section 501.8 , residential ranges not required to be vented to the outside.
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Old 01-10-2023, 09:19 AM
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Unrelated, not nitrogen dioxide...

My bet is those units shipped configured for propane and not NG.
Not unrelated. It is a perfectly related example of the Consumer Product Safety Commission acting to... wait for it.... protect the consumer from a safety hazard. And it is especially germane as it relates to gas ovens.

You would also lose your bet as to whether these stoves use natural gas.
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Old 01-10-2023, 09:41 AM
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Natural gas stoves could be banned in 2023 by Consumer Product Safety Commission.

Next step?

Allergy-induced asthma, triggered by airborne substances, such as pollen, mold spores, cockroach waste, or particles of skin and dried saliva shed by pets (pet dander)

What's next, ban Mold, Trees, Cockroaches, and Pets?

This Commission controls products such a Suntan Products and it has been found after years of study that some people still get sunburn and cancer. Next step, ban the sun?
I totally agree and why do these "agencies" have so much power. Should be only legislative although even that is becoming scary based on the craziness of California. Common sense has gone.
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Ufb bs.
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