[kkingston57]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

New Golf Equipment is essentially what used to be called "Fair Traded". There are essentially no discounts on new golf equipment, produced by the major suppliers and the all have MAP pricing. PING is about the worst to deal with from that perspective, but they're all fairly difficult.

You want a current Taylormade, Callaway or Titleist Driver, you pay MSRP, no matter where you buy it. As long as it's "current", discounts are nearly impossible to find.

Very true on current items. Only "deals" out there are old(er)models.

[kkingston57]

Originally Posted by Girlcopper

True. Amazon is fantastic. I have never not been able to get what I need and most times at a cheaper cost.

Certain items yes, but not certain brands like Titleist, Calloway, Ping etc.

[MrChip72]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

TEMU is owned by China............if you have no issue with that.

TEMU isn't owned by the country of China. It's a private company based in China.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by MrChip72

TEMU isn't owned by the country of China. It's a private company based in China.

I wouldn't buy anything from TEMU.

[shut the front door]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

Personally, I don't consider Ebay and Amazon comparable. I have never even seriously thought about buying anything from Ebay. Maybe I'm too old school, but I just don't trust Ebay.

A friend paid $80 to an Ebay seller for a camera, but he never got the camera. The seller's reply was that he sent it, and if he didn't get it, that's too bad.

Your friend is full of it. Ebay and paypal always side with the buyer. Anyone can say that they didn't receive an item (even if they did) and they will get refunded. That is why when I sell, I require a signature and/or pic.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by shut the front door

Your friend is full of it. Ebay and paypal always side with the buyer. Anyone can say that they didn't receive an item (even if they did) and they will get refunded. That is why when I sell, I require a signature and/or pic.

Not so much anymore, in my experience. It used to be 90/10 for the buyer, but now seems less so.

[roob1]

If you as a seller have a tracking number that shows delivery, and buyer says did not receive, eBay will not hold you responsible. You don't need signatures and pics.

Originally Posted by shut the front door

Your friend is full of it. Ebay and paypal always side with the buyer. Anyone can say that they didn't receive an item (even if they did) and they will get refunded. That is why when I sell, I require a signature and/or pic.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by roob1

If you as a seller have a tracking number that shows delivery, and buyer says did not receive, eBay will not hold you responsible. You don't need signatures and pics.

I would point out the this was in a condo where there were multiple mailboxes, much like The Villages. The mail person could have placed the camera in the wrong box, and the person receiving it could have kept it. Not likely to happen with Amazon because they deliver most of their products with their own trucks, especially expensive items. I would just point out that comparing Amazon to Ebay is an apple and oranges comparison. Price is not the only criteria.

[Rich Iwaszko]

Lee Trevino said it best............ it takes 30 days for a club to get to know you, then your hitting it just as bad as the old club!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Buying new clubs is like Christmas, visions of sugar plums dancing in your head..............just fun,BUT,the 30 day rule applies....

Getting a bad swing fitted to insures a new set the next year.

Fitters don't change swings they fit to what you got. Seen hundreds of fittings.

If your swing changes your fit needs to change.

Get a better swing and your fitted equipment will last for many many years.

BUT, thats not as much fun, is it!!!!!!!!!!!!! All tour players play what they are paid to play, there is no better brand product, one from the other, they just have a swing that can hit anything thats fitted to them. As was written in the 1930's, The Swing is the thing!!!!!!!! dowap...funny people.......BUT, don't let me spoil your fun, dream on

Originally Posted by daveandsandy

It is really the perfect time to come in. Edwin Watts closed a mile a way due to the construction woes. We all know what kind of service you received there. The superstore has more than just golf. They have pickle ball and tennis as well. As far as services that they offer, I would highly recommend getting fitted by them. Most golfers buy what’s cool but not correct. Not always the arrow folks, it’s the Indian. Golf is a game of mistakes. They can help you eliminate those.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Rich Iwaszko

BUT, thats not as much fun, is it!!!!!!!!!!!!! All tour players play what they are paid to play, there is no better brand product, one from the other, they just have a swing that can hit anything thats fitted to them. As was written in the 1930's, The Swing is the thing!!!!!!!! dowap...funny people.......BUT, don't let me spoil your fun, dream on

You're saying it's the Indian and not the Arrow?

Back in the late 70's-early 80's, Bob Cousy was a member at The International. Bob was determined to milk his "name" for all it was worth. He figured he had about 10 years to do it. Manufacturers were always giving him stuff to try out, to see if they could get him hooked.

He was the first guy I ever met, to play with Shakespeare Shafts and later, his Yonex composite Driver. Every new Driver the Couz got, he said he was hitting it 30 yards farther than the one he left in his cellar. I remember thinking, "Couz, if all the Drivers you try could hit it 30 yards longer than the one before it, you'd be driving the ball 1000 yards by now". As you said, the honeymoon period wears off in about a month.

Fourtunately, Launch Monitors have changed the fitting world. You can make a head from any manufacturer, do anything any other manufacturer's head will do, with the right combination of weight, balance, shaft profile, etc. My swing isn't going to change after all these years, I just have to deal with it. Using a Launch Monitor to tune spin, launch angle & dispersion to maximize potential distance, becomes more important the older you get.

I still shake my head in amazement, that at one time, I could carry a M85 or 945 McGregor Driver and McGregor Tourney ball, 230-240 yards.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I would point out the this was in a condo where there were multiple mailboxes, much like The Villages. The mail person could have placed the camera in the wrong box, and the person receiving it could have kept it. Not likely to happen with Amazon because they deliver most of their products with their own trucks, especially expensive items. I would just point out that comparing Amazon to Ebay is an apple and oranges comparison. Price is not the only criteria.

My dealings with both have been positive. In the couple of instances where there was a delivery issue, both made me whole.

[Rich Iwaszko]

Good story!!!!! I believe every swing can be tweaked for the better.........there are so many avenues for improvement.. thats why tour players all have coaches..they are constantly tweaking..........when the average player stops trying to improve their swing, they become happy with where they are at, and a good fitting will benefit.
BUT, is any golfer really happy with where they are at.............I think not........don't give up on improving the Indian and if buying new clubs every year makes you happy, go for it..........next thing you know ai will improve your game............you gotta love golf marketing...........

Originally Posted by BrianL99

You're saying it's the Indian and not the Arrow?

Back in the late 70's-early 80's, Bob Cousy was a member at The International. Bob was determined to milk his "name" for all it was worth. He figured he had about 10 years to do it. Manufacturers were always giving him stuff to try out, to see if they could get him hooked.

He was the first guy I ever met, to play with Shakespeare Shafts and later, his Yonex composite Driver. Every new Driver the Couz got, he said he was hitting it 30 yards farther than the one he left in his cellar. I remember thinking, "Couz, if all the Drivers you try could hit it 30 yards longer than the one before it, you'd be driving the ball 1000 yards by now". As you said, the honeymoon period wears off in about a month.

Fourtunately, Launch Monitors have changed the fitting world. You can make a head from any manufacturer, do anything any other manufacturer's head will do, with the right combination of weight, balance, shaft profile, etc. My swing isn't going to change after all these years, I just have to deal with it. Using a Launch Monitor to tune spin, launch angle & dispersion to maximize potential distance, becomes more important the older you get.

I still shake my head in amazement, that at one time, I could carry a M85 or 945 McGregor Driver and McGregor Tourney ball, 230-240 yards.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

You're saying it's the Indian and not the Arrow?

Back in the late 70's-early 80's, Bob Cousy was a member at The International. Bob was determined to milk his "name" for all it was worth. He figured he had about 10 years to do it. Manufacturers were always giving him stuff to try out, to see if they could get him hooked.

He was the first guy I ever met, to play with Shakespeare Shafts and later, his Yonex composite Driver. Every new Driver the Couz got, he said he was hitting it 30 yards farther than the one he left in his cellar. I remember thinking, "Couz, if all the Drivers you try could hit it 30 yards longer than the one before it, you'd be driving the ball 1000 yards by now". As you said, the honeymoon period wears off in about a month.

Fourtunately, Launch Monitors have changed the fitting world. You can make a head from any manufacturer, do anything any other manufacturer's head will do, with the right combination of weight, balance, shaft profile, etc. My swing isn't going to change after all these years, I just have to deal with it. Using a Launch Monitor to tune spin, launch angle & dispersion to maximize potential distance, becomes more important the older you get.

I still shake my head in amazement, that at one time, I could carry a M85 or 945 McGregor Driver and McGregor Tourney ball, 230-240 yards.

Can you believe Cousy is 95! To me....totally underrated by lists that are compiled today at the position. Always a gentleman. Good story!

[Rich Iwaszko]

Many years ago, I called into the Eddie Endelman Show. Red Auerbach (not sure on spelling)..........was the guest. Red said that golf was NOT a sport..............I told Red that most normal people go by the dictionary definition.........looked up sport in dictionary and one of the examples was golf............. Red asked if I thought he wasn't normal........ I said yes! You are far from normal, meant it in a good way. He obviously didn't see golfers as athletes........I think he was a little bias........but it was the Eddie Edelman talk crap show.

Originally Posted by BrianL99

You're saying it's the Indian and not the Arrow?

Back in the late 70's-early 80's, Bob Cousy was a member at The International. Bob was determined to milk his "name" for all it was worth. He figured he had about 10 years to do it. Manufacturers were always giving him stuff to try out, to see if they could get him hooked.

He was the first guy I ever met, to play with Shakespeare Shafts and later, his Yonex composite Driver. Every new Driver the Couz got, he said he was hitting it 30 yards farther than the one he left in his cellar. I remember thinking, "Couz, if all the Drivers you try could hit it 30 yards longer than the one before it, you'd be driving the ball 1000 yards by now". As you said, the honeymoon period wears off in about a month.

Fourtunately, Launch Monitors have changed the fitting world. You can make a head from any manufacturer, do anything any other manufacturer's head will do, with the right combination of weight, balance, shaft profile, etc. My swing isn't going to change after all these years, I just have to deal with it. Using a Launch Monitor to tune spin, launch angle & dispersion to maximize potential distance, becomes more important the older you get.

I still shake my head in amazement, that at one time, I could carry a M85 or 945 McGregor Driver and McGregor Tourney ball, 230-240 yards.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Originally Posted by Rich Iwaszko

Many years ago, I called into the Eddie Endelman Show. Red Auerbach (not sure on spelling)..........was the guest. Red said that golf was NOT a sport..............I told Red that most normal people go by the dictionary definition.........looked up sport in dictionary and one of the examples was golf............. Red asked if I thought he wasn't normal........ I said yes! You are far from normal, meant it in a good way. He obviously didn't see golfers as athletes........I think he was a little bias........but it was the Eddie Edelman talk crap show.

He’s still around (Eddie). Never was a big fan of his. Auerbach on the other hand was a master class in outsmarting and manipulating other teams. Pat Riley still sleeps with one eye open!