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Old 03-29-2014, 05:56 AM
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Default Possible reason for beliggerent behaviour while out and about

http://www.dementiaguide.com/symptomlibrary/behavior/inappropriate_language_and_behaviour/

Read informational list on above hyperlink.....


We've all encountered people in public places that act inappropriately (in our minds anyway). Many posts re rude people in restaurants in T.V. or elsewhere......out of state, etc.

Years ago, when I was a young mom, I'd encounter a woman of about 70sh who would be cursing at her middle aged son in the super market produce aisle. Not once or twice, but every single shopping expedition. Everyone felt so sorry for him. He was a patient soul......and didn't talk back to her. I'm sure he knew her condition.

Unbeknownst to me at the time, this "belligerence" was probably due to her dementia or alzheimers.

Not all people exhibit this type of behavior but it can show up in the early stages and family thinks the oldster is just being ornery.

My mom was belligerent or 'over excitable' only in the beginning but then became as docile as a lamb, once she no longer had to make decisions for herself (and she was NOT on any pharmaceuticals to make her docile)........the trial on Aricept came much later. After my stepdad died and she came to live with us, she mellowed out to her original personality. Again, she didn't have to make any decisions......just enjoy living in our home where all of her needs were met and responsibilities of life were taken off of her shoulders.........and be picked up and delivered to the senior daycare center.....where experienced nurses and social workers knew the symptoms of early alzheimers and early dementia. It was quite an education for we, the adult children, of aging parents in our homes.

The early stages of alzheimers (prior to diagnosis) must be frustrating for the individual........as frustrating as it is for the family........who takes a long time to recognize why they are being so "different".

I was thinking that this could be the case in the "restaurant rage" incident.....or other incidents re restaurant rage or inappropriate behaviour in THE VILLAGES restaurants........otherwise perceived as rudeness by those experiencing it. Many old posts on those occurrences.

In the very beginning, even their own family members might not recognize the early stages of dementia.


http://everydaylife.globalpost.com/stay-calm-elderly-belligerent-mother-26216.html

Parenting your elderly parent. How to stay calm with an elderly , belligerent mother.

It behooves us all to take rude comments with a grain of salt........unless , of course, they become physical, such as in the relaying of the events from the out of state restaurant the other day, which caused a ruckus......and involved many.

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LOL. That would explain old folks behavior.
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LOL. That would explain old folks behavior.


It could be, but we never really know who we are surrounded by and whether or not they "might" be in the early stages of dementia and/or alzheimers..........but if one begins acting out in a way not normal to their "usual self".........it could explain it. Or else, they are just plain normally rude and insensitive.

I just read the list to my hubby and told him he'd better not belch in public......

What to look for?

Inappropriate Language and Behaviour | Common Signs

  • Makes comments that are mean or hurtful (e.g. tells people they are fat, have a bad haircut)
  • Tells jokes that are offensive
  • Curses and uses foul language
  • Leers or stares at others
  • Stands too close to people, or touches them inappropriately
  • Makes sexually suggestive comments or advances
  • Physically or verbally threatens others
  • Lacks modesty (e.g. changes in front of people, urinates in public)
  • Spits, belches, or does other embarrassing things in social situations
  • Acts on previously controlled impulses (e.g. phones people in the middle of the night)
  • Reacts in a way that doesn't match the situation (e.g. laughs at a funeral)
  • Talks to strangers about personal matters
  • Frequently makes unwarranted accusations towards others
  • Screams or shouts
  • Displays extreme emotional outbursts and over-reactions

Inappropriate Language and Behaviour
General Description

The ability of the person you care for to perceive, think and understand can be affected by dementia.

A quiet, loving person may begin to swear when upset, or insult family and friends for no obvious reason. Even when you know that these behaviours are symptomatic of the illness, life can be extremely difficult if the person you care for is verbally abusing you, or acting out in public.

The person you care for may begin to make hurtful or mean comments towards others or use profanities regularly.

These outbursts may be a way to express the frustration they are feeling towards others who misunderstand them and their resentment of the loss of their independence. Sometimes these feelings may escalate to physical aggression, usually towards the caregiver. The person you care for may not know how to dress or act appropriately for the situation.

For example, they may laugh at a funeral or talk during a movie. As the disease progresses, many people lose their inhibition Inhibition
The ability to restrain one's behavior and actions., misunderstand situations or have increasing memory
Memory
The ability to process information that requires attention, storage, and retrieval. loss. These can result in inappropriate sexual behaviour.

For example, the person might appear naked in public or make sexual advances to strangers, or shoplift. Reasons for such behaviours might include physical and sensory
Sensory
Relating to one of the five senses - sight, hearing, touch, taste, smell. difficulties, mental changes, or social and emotional reactions.

In Alzheimer's disease
Alzheimer's disease
A neurological disease that affects memory and behaviour. It is characterized by beta-amyloid plaques and neurofibrillary tangles in the brain. There is no known cause but genetics and lifestyle are thought to play a role., inappropriate behaviour usually happens later in the course of the dementia, at the moderate to severe stage. (The exception to this is irritability, which is often seen early, as is some "coarsening" of behaviour. By coarsening, it is meant that the behaviour is not entirely atypical
Atypical
Abnormal or unusal., but usually only done with family or people close to them).

Frontotemporal dementia
A type of dementia that mainly affects the frontal lobe causing a problem in executive function tasks. especially affects the part of the brain that handles social behaviour, insight, and social appropriateness, these become affected early in this illness.

People with Frontotemporal dementia typically have problems recognizing what is socially acceptable. They find it difficult - or more accurately, they see no need - to adjust their behaviour to fit the circumstances.

Often families will state that the person is no longer him/herself.

A quiet person may begin to use language that is considered foul or sexually suggestive. They may lose their inhibitions and make inappropriate comments or jokes in public.

This behaviour is most embarrassing to the caregiver who knows that the person would not normally say these things. The person with Fontotemporal dementia is unaware that they are saying/doing anything inappropriate.

The first step in taking a more active role in symptom management is understanding how a symptom is affecting everyday life; the next step is communicating this knowledge to care planning team and family members.
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Default All of this can be observed from folks who have had tee many martoonies.

Makes comments that are mean or hurtful (e.g. tells people they are fat, have a bad haircut)Tells jokes that are offensive
Curses and uses foul language
Leers or stares at others
Stands too close to people, or touches them inappropriately
Makes sexually suggestive comments or advances
Physically or verbally threatens others
Lacks modesty (e.g. changes in front of people, urinates in public)
Spits, belches, or does other embarrassing things in social situations
Acts on previously controlled impulses (e.g. phones people in the middle of the night)
Reacts in a way that doesn't match the situation (e.g. laughs at a funeral)
Talks to strangers about personal matters
Frequently makes unwarranted accusations towards others
Screams or shouts
Displays extreme emotional outbursts and over-reactions
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All of this can be observed from folks who have had tee many martoonies.

I agree with Gracie.

To many people drink too much, that will lead to agressive and rude behavior.

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http://www.dementiaguide.com/symptomlibrary/behavior/inappropriate_language_and_behaviour/

Read informational list on above hyperlink.....


We've all encountered people in public places that act inappropriately (in our minds anyway). Many posts re rude people in restaurants in T.V. or elsewhere......out of state, etc.

Years ago, when I was a young mom, I'd encounter a woman of about 70sh who would be cursing at her middle aged son in the super market produce aisle. Not once or twice, but every single shopping expedition. Everyone felt so sorry for him. He was a patient soul......and didn't talk back to her. I'm sure he knew her condition.

Unbeknownst to me at the time, this "belligerence" was probably due to her dementia or alzheimers.

Not all people exhibit this type of behavior but it can show up in the early stages and family thinks the oldster is just being ornery.

My mom was belligerent or 'over excitable' only in the beginning but then became as docile as a lamb, once she no longer had to make decisions for herself (and she was NOT on any pharmaceuticals to make her docile)........the trial on Aricept came much later. After my stepdad died and she came to live with us, she mellowed out to her original personality. Again, she didn't have to make any decisions......just enjoy living in our home where all of her needs were met and responsibilities of life were taken off of her shoulders.........and be picked up and delivered to the senior daycare center.....where experienced nurses and social workers knew the symptoms of early alzheimers and early dementia. It was quite an education for we, the adult children, of aging parents in our homes.

The early stages of alzheimers (prior to diagnosis) must be frustrating for the individual........as frustrating as it is for the family........who takes a long time to recognize why they are being so "different".

I was thinking that this could be the case in the "restaurant rage" incident.....or other incidents re restaurant rage or inappropriate behaviour in THE VILLAGES restaurants........otherwise perceived as rudeness by those experiencing it. Many old posts on those occurrences.

In the very beginning, even their own family members might not recognize the early stages of dementia.


http://everydaylife.globalpost.com/stay-calm-elderly-belligerent-mother-26216.html

Parenting your elderly parent. How to stay calm with an elderly , belligerent mother.

It behooves us all to take rude comments with a grain of salt........unless , of course, they become physical, such as in the relaying of the events from the out of state restaurant the other day, which caused a ruckus......and involved many.

There but for the grace of God go I. God forbid. But, one never knows
 

Are you sure it's Alzheimer's and not "Mad Cow" disease?

>>5 - 13% of Alzheimer's Disease (AD) cases that go to autopsy at university medical centers is actually misdiagnosed sporadic CJD (ref: Manuelidis, J. Pathology 1989), alarming since AD is so common and on the rise.
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tee many martoonies! Too funny! Thanks for the laugh Gracie... I needed that
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Are you sure it's Alzheimer's and not "Mad Cow" disease?

>>5 - 13% of Alzheimer's Disease (AD) cases that go to autopsy at university medical centers is actually misdiagnosed sporadic CJD (ref: Manuelidis, J. Pathology 1989), alarming since AD is so common and on the rise.
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Read "Brain Trust" if you're a meat eater and want a good scare.

Pouring rain here again (but better than snow) so maybe a good scary book about meat would be appropriate. Thanks.

Alzheimers or Dementia with Alzheimers is a long road and often called "The Long Goodbye" . Very sad for the family watching the loved one slowly decline. It's not funny at all, believe me......to be the caregiver or even watching from the sidelines. But, it takes awhile.......sometimes even a decade or more. In hindsight, though, I wouldn't change a moment of the journey with my mother, as it gave me a crash course in what aging is all about, as we met so many other families with parents (and some of them with inlaw parents at the same time as their own) taking this "Long Goodbye" journey along with us.

If no one has ever had to care for their aging parents, they are truly blessed. We had my mom from age 83 to age 91......

The first thing that goes is their short term memory, while their long term memory is retained. Their confusion , at first, may be mistaken for a "senior moment"......but it progresses, as mentioned elsewhere.

Mad Cow, on the other hand, happens and progresses very quickly. I've seen videos of patients suffering through that and it is truly gruesome........much worse than Alzheimers. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.


Symptoms of Mad Cow /Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease
Mayo Clinic Staff:
Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease is marked by rapid mental deterioration, usually within a few months. Initial signs and symptoms of CJD typically include:
Personality changes
Anxiety
Depression
Memory loss
Impaired thinking
Blurred vision
Insomnia
Difficulty speaking
Difficulty swallowing
Sudden, jerky movements
As the disease progresses, mental symptoms worsen. Most people eventually lapse into a coma. Heart failure, respiratory failure, pneumonia or other infections are generally the cause of death. The disease usually runs its course in about seven months, although a few people may live up to one or two years after diagnosis.

In people with the rarer vCJD, psychiatric symptoms may be more prominent in the beginning, with dementia — the loss of the ability to think, reason and remember — developing later in the course of the illness. In addition, this variant affects people at a younger age than classic CJD does, and appears to have a slightly longer duration — 12 to 14 months.








 






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Q: Why do they call it PMS?

A: Because Mad Cow Disease was already taken.

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Q: Why do they call it PMS?

A: Because Mad Cow Disease was already taken.


Very cute.....but most retired women no longer have PMS....


http://www.why.do/why-do-old-people-get-mean/


Why do old people get mean???
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Very cute.....but most retired women no longer have PMS....


http://www.why.do/why-do-old-people-get-mean/


Why do old people get mean???
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I suffer from CRS, "Can't Remember Sh*t".
Com'on Joe! If you couldn't, you wouldn't have remembered what CRS means.
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