[mikeycereal]

It's really stupid to go around changing names because people are offended. I don't even know what some of these bird names represented. But the bird thing really doesn't affect me so I'm not going to be a chicken little. Oops sorry Rich.

[Sandy and Ed]

I understand that consideration is being given to renaming the Hubble telescope as well. Wanna call it the Big Big Shiny Telescope Thing to be more descriptive and to avoid honoring any person. Moving on to Lincoln, Nebraska……………..

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed

I understand that consideration is being given to renaming the Hubble telescope as well. Wanna call it the Big Big Shiny Telescope Thing to be more descriptive and to avoid honoring any person. Moving on to Lincoln, Nebraska……………..

I no longer want to be called caucasian. To the best of my knowledge, I did not come from asian cauc.

[NotGolfer]

Our society is absolutely insane....with all the "I'm offended" garbage etc, etc, etc Pretty soon people will just plain be offended about everything.....oh wait, they already are!!

Get A Life

[MandoMan]

Originally Posted by Arctic Fox

"The American Ornithological Society has announced that it will remove all human names for bird species. Their goal is to create a more inclusive environment for bird-watching fans."

One wonders what the new names will be.

I think jailbird will still be usable, but I don’t know about blackbird or redbird or redwing or robin red breast.

Here’s what they are after: for example, McCown’s Longspur, whatever that is. “ The name "McCown" refers to Captain John P. McCown, an American army officer who collected the specimen in 1851 that led to the species first being scientifically described. McCown later fought for the Confederacy, which led to controversy starting in 2018, with parallels drawn to the removal of Confederate memorials.”

The American Ornithological Society website says: “In 2020, reflecting the heightened awareness of systemic racism and the need to address these injustices across society, there was a public petition to the AOS to change all English bird names that were named directly after people (i.e. eponymous names) because several of the honored individuals are identified as symbols of racism and colonialism. The AOS initially approached this difficult issue through efforts led by members of the AOS Diversity and Inclusion Committee.” But, “Any effort to make such judgments on past and present human figures would invariably be fraught with difficulty and negativity and become an unwelcome public and scientific distraction.”

But in March, the National Audubon Society announced that after a year of study, it had decided to NOT change its name. From the NYTimes: “ The National Audubon Society announced on Wednesday that its board of directors had voted to retain the organization’s name despite pressure to end its association with John James Audubon, the 19th-century naturalist and illustrator who enslaved people, drawing backlash from fellow bird groups that have already changed their names. The bird conservation group said its decision came after more than a yearlong process that included input from hundreds of its members, volunteers and donors. Despite Mr. Audubon’s history as an enslaver with racist views toward Black and Indigenous people . . . “

So, this name change for birds is due to the American Ornithological Society caving in to demands by a tiny group of Woke people. As for me, I am PROcolonial. Most of my ancestors were colonizers, including William the Conqueror and the Viking Rollo, Duke of Normandy.

I think we should change all Bird names and use only the names that bird species use for themselves. It’s up to us to learn those names. Tweet Tweet will not be acceptable. (Grinning)

Meanwhile, in the song “The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down,” the line “There goes Robert E. Lee” is being changed to “There goes the traitor to his country formerly known as Robert E. Lee.”

Meanwhile, I learned a few days ago that the 82 year old folk singer Buffy Sainte-Marie is not in fact a Canadian Indian, as she has claimed for sixty years, but born in Stoneham, Massachusetts, near Boston, to a family of Italian and English descent named Santamaria. Are there any birds named after her?

[Oneiric]

Wow! Talk about desperate. Can't leave well enough alone. Now I have to remember that a Starling is really a Boomba Flackadacka ?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed

I understand that consideration is being given to renaming the Hubble telescope as well. Wanna call it the Big Big Shiny Telescope Thing to be more descriptive and to avoid honoring any person. Moving on to Lincoln, Nebraska……………..

By all means let's erase any history that "offends" anyone. In fact, we should start at the beginning. Let's resurrect some 12th century monks to revise the book of Genesis---after all Cain was a murderer---let's erase him. Heck (no pun intended), let's go back further and erase Satan. How about Abraham?--he was going to kill his own son. How about Joseph's brothers that sold him into slavery? OMG---I mentioned slavery---better erase this post.

[Causey]

If WW3 comes to our soil, it will end this BS. The clowns worried about words will learn that real problems exist in the world. Life has become too easy in the USA.

[Marmaduke]

Originally Posted by bobeaston

Those trying to destroy our culture, and spirit, are methodical and thorough. City names, sports team names, product names, tearing down statues, and now bird names. What's next? Insect names, food names, your name (pronouns anyone), or ...?

Orwell is no longer fiction.

It's actually maniacal. It's pressing forward like a well-oiled machine. The term "Forward" meant these kind of 'fundamental changes'.
Long before I heard that builders and Real Estate Agents no longer say or put into print, "Master Bedroom", etc., I knew we were literally in the New World.
Maniacial, over many years. Our country will be the next attempt to be renamed. Maybe we'll fight back then, or not?

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by Causey

If WW3 comes to our soil, it will end this BS. The clowns worried about words will learn that real problems exist in the world. Life has become too easy in the USA.

True enough. As Dad used to say whenever some fringe group or cause made the news, "Good times".

But all this is really, is the tail wagging the dog. Back in the day, when the Freaks went from championing PeaceLoveDope to roosting in trees and chaining themselves to bulldozers, they were amusing. I remember joking the the first environmentalists were ex-hippies who found the only thing that would get them taken even semi-seriously. They were folks high on idealism (well, probably more than just idealism) but woefully short on knowledge, who had found a way to get their faces and names in media. It progressed (well, "progressed" might not be the right word) to things more in line with the topic of this discussion: first changing the way hurricanes were named; first moving away from single-sex names, then toward more "inclusive" names from minority segments of our society, etc. School names were changed as well; if they were originally named after someone who in the eyes of the former Freaks just didn't measure up to their standards, they hooted and hollered until they got a change in names. One of my favorites is the former Sibley High School near St. Paul, MN, now named Two Rivers High School, and originally named after a Minnesota pioneer and fur trapper who later became the state's first governor. However he also lead a punitive expedition against the Sioux in 1862, which in the opinion of the Social Justice crowd forever colored his name and rendered him unrememberable except in the most negative ways.

But the all-time champion in the ridiculous renaming department has to be Lake Bde maka ska. Any former Minnesotans here? Five points if you can pronounce it, five more if you can identify it by it's former name, and ten points if you can give the ridiculous reason for the change.

Oh well...

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by Marmaduke

It's actually maniacal. It's pressing forward like a well-oiled machine. The term "Forward" meant these kind of 'fundamental changes'.
Long before I heard that builders and Real Estate Agents no longer say or put into print, "Master Bedroom", etc., I knew we were literally in the New World.
Maniacial, over many years. Our country will be the next attempt to be renamed. Maybe we'll fight back then, or not?

Resistance-is-futile-you-will-be-assimilated....

[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by MandoMan

Meanwhile, I learned a few days ago that the 82 year old folk singer Buffy Sainte-Marie is not in fact a Canadian Indian, as she has claimed for sixty years, but born in Stoneham, Massachusetts, near Boston, to a family of Italian and English descent named Santamaria. Are there any birds named after her?

Yeah, but they call it Elizabeth Warren.

[Vermilion Villager]

Originally Posted by MandoMan;2270841

Meanwhile, in the song “The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down,” the line “There goes Robert E. Lee” is being changed to [B

There goes the traitor to his country formerly known as Robert E. Lee.” [/B]

I don't think that is true. Checked The Band's site and nothing there.
However, if it was true....is it un-true?

[Bobcat65]

Originally Posted by Arctic Fox

"The American Ornithological Society has announced that it will remove all human names for bird species. Their goal is to create a more inclusive environment for bird-watching fans."

One wonders what the new names will be.

Were not the names they want to use have been created by humans as well?