[Midnight Cowgirl]

Incredibly, this is yet another tragedy.
Nine dead at this writing. and 16 hospitalized.
This is the fourth shooting within a week's time and the second mass shooting within a 24-hour period.
The shooter has been shot dead by the police.
The incident took place in downtown Dayton at about 1:22 a.m.

The police are trying to determine if any others were involved in the actual shooting.
Not very much is known at this writing.

[GrumpyOldMan]

There is nothing the politicians can or will do to stop this, it is up to we the people to stop it that can't happen until we can stop arguing with each other and find some common ground.

[New Englander]

Originally Posted by Midnight Cowgirl

Incredibly, this is yet another tragedy.
Nine dead at this writing. and 16 hospitalized.
This is the fourth shooting within a week's time and the second mass shooting within a 24-hour period.
The shooter has been shot dead by the police.
The incident took place in downtown Dayton at about 1:22 a.m.

The police are trying to determine if any others were involved in the actual shooting.
Not very much is known at this writing.

I just can't understand how people can do this. It makes me ill to think about it.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by New Englander

I just can't understand how people can do this. It makes me ill to think about it.

Dayton shooting: Nine killed, 26 wounded, shooter also dead | USA News | Al Jazeera

These are becoming terrifyingly "normal".

[manaboutown]

Copycat crime for fame! I hope there are no more coming.

[It's Hot There]

Originally Posted by New Englander

I just can't understand how people can do this. It makes me ill to think about it.

Really????? It's called mental illness.

[gatorbill1]

Why can't we all just get along?????????

[jane032657]

We have dog sitters at our house while we are away for summer. Their daughter was in Dayton at the bar celebrating her friend's birthday when the shots started. She crawled out and got out safely, pretty close to home. Very emotional to hear the story from them.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by gatorbill1

Why can't we all just get along?????????

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Dayton shooting: Nine killed, 26 wounded, shooter also dead | USA News | Al Jazeera

These are becoming terrifyingly "normal".

An all too familiar side effect/result of our tolerance for violence in our society. The increasing and on going exposure to violence, maiming, murder, mayhem, disemboweling, etc in our entertainment environment is a conditioning of the wrong kind.

The true cause has yet to be addressed. And as history unfortunately documents....it will not be!!!!

[graciegirl]

This shooting in Dayton, Ohio occurred in the Oregon Historic District, near Kettering. It happened at a bar called NED PEPPERS. The long time owner died in April.
The gunman, a white male, arrived outfitted in a flak jacket. Here are some pictures of inside this bar, before the violence.

pictures of inside of ned peppers bar in dayton, ohio - Bing images

Oregon Historic District

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by billethkid

An all too familiar side effect/result of our tolerance for violence in our society. The increasing and on going exposure to violence, maiming, murder, mayhem, disemboweling, etc in our entertainment environment is a conditioning of the wrong kind.

The true cause has yet to be addressed. And as history unfortunately documents....it will not be!!!!

It has very little to do with video games, movies, TV shows or there would be hundreds of thousands of these kind of shootings involving any kind of available weapon.

The Bible has all kinds of violence in it. As do the works of Shakespeare, operas, Homer's The Iliad, etc.

[anothersteve]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

It has very little to do with video games, movies, TV shows or there would be hundreds of thousands of these kind of shootings involving any kind of available weapon.

The Bible has all kinds of violence in it. As do the works of Shakespeare, operas, Homer's The Iliad, etc.

It's not just "these kinds of shootings", it's violence in general that is the problem. Look around, read the news, the world is getting crazier by the day.
Steve

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

It has very little to do with video games, movies, TV shows or there would be hundreds of thousands of these kind of shootings involving any kind of available weapon.

I don't know if the "thousands" would happen, but I agree in that I don't think this exposure to violence causes violent behavior. It may desensitize some people to violence.

However, I think it is fairly easy to prove that violence sells - makes money, and that is the reason there is so much violence in "entertainment".

A trend I find distressing is the books, movies, etc that make a person a hero who breaks the laws to achieve a "good" result. In other words the end justifies the means.

One of the two recent shooters said he was "defending" our country from the invasion of illegal immigrants. He was justified in killing all those people - in his own mind.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

I don't know if the "thousands" would happen, but I agree in that I don't think this exposure to violence causes violent behavior. It may desensitize some people to violence.

However, I think it is fairly easy to prove that violence sells - makes money, and that is the reason there is so much violence in "entertainment".

A trend I find distressing is the books, movies, etc that make a person a hero who breaks the laws to achieve a "good" result. In other words the end justifies the means.

One of the two recent shooters said he was "defending" our country from the invasion of illegal immigrants. He was justified in killing all those people - in his own mind.

Violence does seem to be an indication of a real lack of imagination with some writers, movie directors, etc.