[Abby10]

Originally Posted by Bucco

This thread was a discussion of honesty and lying.

Suddenly, it veered away to discussion of a YOUTUBE video shot not by media but a private individual....which then as was intended veered us to an area not to be discussed.

Lets not forget that the OP was dismayed by the lack of honesty by ANYONE, and lying by ANYONE especially what you see reported

Somehow the LIARS became entangled with those reporting the lying and that is not what this thread is about, at least from my perspective.

When media reports a LIE and documents it, how is that the fault o the media.....are they not to report that and what reason is there not to report it ?

Regarding that youtube/Facebook video, why do you keep ignoring the fact that much of the media picked up on that story and ran with it without securing the facts? It was a good example of the topic of this thread. They did not "investigate the truth" first before reporting it in an erroneous way. Keeping politics out of it, it was simply a story of the actions of 3 different groups of people that they got wrong because they (the media) apparently believed the Facebook posting instead of checking the story out for themselves before reporting. Talk about being irresponsible!

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Abby10

So why make assumptions?

And another FACT...is totally ignored.

Originally Posted by jebartle

Maybe, just maybe...

[Madelaine Amee]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I am glad I live here in The Villages. I like how the majority of people think. They are old and wise.

It might be worth your while to work one of the election days and see for yourself how old and WISE some of the people living here really are.

The last election brought out people who had to be led to the booth to fill in their forms. We had one delightful elderly man who was wandering around and actually had no idea where he was, but he got to vote. Being OLD does not make you WISE!

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Abby10

Regarding that youtube/Facebook video, why do you keep ignoring the fact that much of the media picked up on that story and ran with it without securing the facts? It was a good example of the topic of this thread. They did not "investigate the truth" first before reporting it in an erroneous way. Keeping politics out of it, it was simply a story of the actions of 3 different groups of people that they got wrong because they (the media) apparently believed the Facebook posting instead of checking the story out for themselves before reporting. Talk about being irresponsible!

NEVER IGNORED THAT, but called to your attention that was not the subject of the thread and expressed my chagrin that would be used as a reason to doubt the media.

I supplied a link where the NYTIMES sorted it out and criticized those who were in error.

AGAIN, if we can since you and others have attacked the media for years now.....if we can except the Covington story, allow us the facts to support your claim of media lying, etc. Of course if that event is what you use to substantiate the "enemy of the people" or any other such unsubstantiated claim, why was that claim anti media made a year or so PRIOR to the event ?

Thanks

[photo1902]

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee

It might be worth your while to work one of the election days and see for yourself how old and WISE some of the people living here really are.

The last election brought out people who had to be led to the booth to fill in their forms. We had one delightful elderly man who was wandering around and actually had no idea where he was, but he got to vote. Being OLD does not make you WISE!

I think this was the same person in front of me at the Publix deli line.

[Abby10]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

And another FACT...is totally ignored.

And why bother to "maybe" assume?

I will say, you are very good at doing exactly what the media does. Thanks for the good laugh - I needed that.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee

It might be worth your while to work one of the election days and see for yourself how old and WISE some of the people living here really are.

The last election brought out people who had to be led to the booth to fill in their forms. We had one delightful elderly man who was wandering around and actually had no idea where he was, but he got to vote.

Being OLD does not make you WISE!

Absolutely!

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee

It might be worth your while to work one of the election days and see for yourself how old and WISE some of the people living here really are.

The last election brought out people who had to be led to the booth to fill in their forms. We had one delightful elderly man who was wandering around and actually had no idea where he was, but he got to vote. Being OLD does not make you WISE!

I am old as hell and that poster does not think me wise at all

[Madelaine Amee]

Originally Posted by photo1902

I think this was the same person in front of me at the Publix deli line.

Great come back ..... thank you for putting some humor into this thread. When will we arrive at the conclusion that one is never, ever, going to change a closed mind. Mine too .... hate to admit it, but my mind is made up and no one is going to sway me!!! But, in my defence, I do fact check which is really easy to do if you are old and wise!

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee

Great come back ..... thank you for putting some humor into this thread. When will we arrive at the conclusion that one is never, ever, going to change a closed mind. Mine too .... hate to admit it, but my mind is made up and no one is going to sway me!!! But, in my defence, I do fact check which is really easy to do if you are old and wise!

Uplifting post, especially the part about mind made up BUT still fact check

On here, I am called a lot of things but I also fact check even if the original story fits my mind. Wandering around with lies in your head will not serve you well. Those who know me that I will not argue until I know, and if not one of those clear issues, then I will still come to the DISCUSSION armed with facts. NOBODY dictates what I should think.

Great post. My concern, despite what many on here have accused me is not with any agenda, but my country and nothing else.

[Madelaine Amee]

Originally Posted by Bucco

Uplifting post, especially the part about mind made up BUT still fact check

On here, I am called a lot of things but I also fact check even if the original story fits my mind. Wandering around with lies in your head will not serve you well. Those who know me that I will not argue until I know, and if not one of those clear issues, then I will still come to the DISCUSSION armed with facts. NOBODY dictates what I should think.

Great post. My concern, despite what many on here have accused me is not with any agenda, but my country and nothing else.

I have to believe that good will triumph over evil or there really is no point in living. Great example is Nazi Germany, took years but finally there was an end to the madness.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee

I have to believe that good will triumph over evil or there really is no point in living. Great example is Nazi Germany, took years but finally there was an end to the madness.

We agree on this.

Scary what is developing

[Madelaine Amee]

Originally Posted by Bucco

We agree on this.

Scary what is developing

This too shall pass!

[graciegirl]

This is a Gallup poll from September 2014 that said that four out of ten Americans didn't trust the Media.
Trust in Mass Media Returns to All-Time Low

And here is one from 2016;

Americans' Trust in Mass Media Sinks to New Low

Here is a Pew Poll on the same subject; Trust in news media | Pew Research Center

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

This is a Gallup poll from September 2014 that said that four out of ten Americans didn't trust the Media.
Trust in Mass Media Returns to All-Time Low

And here is one from 2016;

Americans' Trust in Mass Media Sinks to New Low

Here is a Pew Poll on the same subject; Trust in news media | Pew Research Center

I understand your post. I understand your links...I also read the detail about election years, etc.

What I am searching for is you and other posters reasons for saying the media lies. What is YOUR opinion based on ?

I get the polls, and read the details. Nobody ever said. ...gee, whatever they say I believe. ALL are saying how they verify and validate and you keeping telling us polls, etc.

What lie have you read...what coverage was a lie, and please do not confuse coverage of a liar with lying in the coverage.

I understand polls....but you guys keep accusing but never supply the why or the detail.

Normally what is called "fake news" is negative to the accuser, but ACCURETLY REPORTED