I only wish, truly wish...I shared your optimism.

I guess there's just been too many conversations I've had, where it has been basically stated that, "there is NOTHING, even proved facts, that will make me change my mind about MY person/viewpoint" has discouraged me of any hope of rational decisions by some...based on honesty, integrity and ethics. :(

I have had those conversations as well. Some believe strongly they are doing the right thing, thinking the right way, believe they make rational decisions based on honesty, integrity and ethics.. There are a lot of people who think they are right and worse, think they are always right. They even believe they have the ultimate truth. But what is worse is their superior attitude, don't you think?:)

My views on truth and honesty will not change, and I think that position on truth and honesty is the superior position. I welcome to hear from those who believe truth and honesty is not superior to the alternative.

I am open on issues.

Mark Twain quotations - Opinion

Mark Twain's opinions on opinions.

Thank you Tal.

We needed that.

Mark Twain comes in very handy at times.

I am MRS Bucco....will tell him you said hi when he returns. I was not complained about and banned

I have shared this on Facebook. Very apt and soul soothing.

I really enjoy Bucco's posts.

Whose's Paying Rent? It ain't me!

This is one of the bestest threads in a long time. I love to hear what others have on their minds and their outlooks. Sure do wish we had one old Forum open for just 24 hours. It would be DY NO MITE! But how would we know what is Truth?

I'm amazed it's made it to page 18 without mention of the "p" word, yea team, see we can share ideas about fact checking without expletives, and the moderator hasn't had to dig out that really large bar of soap.

I am still able to "hear" you and am not surprised that the subject of the thread is secondary to your ongoing soap operas.

I am on here to show my hubby how much I have NOT used this name since the death of any political forum.

He has explained a few times the birth of RAGS and the reason. Of course YOU find any gossip tidbit more important than anything so your pointed post is not surprising.

Both he and I are leaving, so take your soap opera to others and make your judgements on others....we are out of here.

Talk about looking down on others and feeling superior.....two of us minions from beneath your heavenly gaze are leaving thus your realm is reduced.

:agree::agree:

Huh????, now I'm in the dark, what just happened?

Just something I have been told, by more than one member...that has happened in the past.

I am not claiming any first hand knowledge of it, nor do I personally know of any current efforts...so just toss it in the 'rumor bag.' :D

Sorry for any confusion. :o

I am very worried about some of us here. I hope that someone who is very intense is alright. We all feel deeply that we are right and some of us focus more on National issues than others and some of us have ways to diffuse the tension.

I know that not a single one of us would ever want any thing bad to happen to people that we debate with. EVER.

Please know that we may disagree, but never wish anyone harm.

We are all more fragile as we age.

No one wins or loses in most arguments. Life goes on. It is most interesting to see how National issues pan out.

I am sorry you are leaving too.

Yes. That does happen on occasion or did. Not sure if it has happened recently though. It occurred often years ago and caused quite an exodus off of Talk of the Villages. It was probably before 2014 or so though.

I hope all is well. Certainly anything said on social media will ever ever change our lives. Big hugs for everyone and did I mention fact check, giggle.

This acct has not been deleted as of yet...so....

I shared our resignation letter with her since it..well, I did WITH NO COMMENT...simply allowed her a copy of the letter.

She replied, and I share this with all, and hope it stays. She shared her worry about ME in that email. Her insinuations are the same she has used in the past with others and I resent it.

I am fine. I know the meaning of responding in fact and not diverting things. I know the meaning of being concerned about others lives instead of this forum.

She used to PM me and express this kind of sentiment to me about others, and then have other choice words as she tried to get information.

What I would like as parting gift is to have everyone DISCUSS topics, learn from each other , but leave me alone. I have never been better.

Many threads talk about themselves at the exclusion of all others or anything of substance, but I try not to, or did try.

The snide insinuation, used before in almost the same words is very insulting to me.

Yes, I am intense...I am also vastly more informed than you. You have asked a few if us us to attack a poster on another forum who said bad things about you, or as you have accused and help up registration if other new posters because you were suspicious. I could never find it in myself to do those things.

Do not worry one bit about me or my wife.....I spent a career in politics...I can read people and know from history the character of many. Your remark about my age is frankly extremely insulting.

Why is everything about you speaking down to everyone. What pleasure do you derive from being so

So, just go back to posting ON SUBJECT...not about other people. I find it incredible that you would post something like this. Do you get pleasure from this ?

If you had concern in reality, why would you share it on the public portion....the answer is obvious.

Wait.. I thought this thread was about truth.. lol

It very much IS...LOL :D


And Talt is not even one who has ever, before now, mentioned it to me...so add him to the list. :ho:

Wow... I feel like I walked into a room right after a big argument. I can feel the tenseness but I have no idea what happened.

Hmm, the list keeps getting longer. ;)

So hearsay now equals fact...

Hoping I have the chance to get back on as Bucco and see what emails they have archived, because I am sloppy and have not deleted them at all, so if I can find them....will share.

Also hope that one of the other folks who were solicited, etc read and come forth.

Well good. No one is going to harm themselves.

And truth still is truth.

This surely has been a fascinating thread.

It's not that I don't believe you, because I do, but that is not a good argument for truth and facts.

Hoping I can find the emails and then truth will be served

You have insulted PUBLICLY my wife and I both for no reason.....You expressed your concern (unwarranted) in a PM but had to continue to make a public insinuation...you also know factually that you solicited me and others to attack....I am aware of a lot

I was outta here, but you had to make the snide remarks....not sure what the motivation for that is

tHANKS for some kind of justification. I have been on here for a long time thus I only speak of what I know but thanks....folks think this stuff is all made up....it aint

Still with the condescending attitude.

WHAT EXACTLY LED YOU TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT HURTING ANYONE OR THEMSELVES ?

Specifically tell me what prompted that snide comment ????

Not fascinatiing for me......ends 12 years of posting on here, had me and my wife insulted...not very fascinating at all. Youb ruse of these snide comments is legendary

Having only been here a short time compared to yourself, but knowing the effort you've made to prove what you say, upholding what used to be the hallmarks of this great country in morals/real patriotism/ethics/honesty/integrity...I most certainly believe you. :thumbup:

I still wish you and your wife would change your mind about staying, as we need a LOT more like you...and a LOT less like... :ohdear:

The people I heard about who were on the receiving end of a lot of bullying left Talk of the Villages quite a ways back. I was very sad to see some of them leave. A lot of them went over to Facebook.

Their friends come on Talk of the Villages on occasion but not all that often.

I am glad they are gone too Tal. Do you remember when that guy went over to that other site and was posting using my name?

Well, Tal...did want to say as I, Bucco, leave....I wish you well in all things. While I never touted the library directly, in reading this thread and seeing where folks get their version of the news, my ongoing, post after post endorsing reading was close.

Cable tv distorts and that is all folks speak of. Is it that hard to read..read..read ?

Good luck and Godspeed Tal.

He was complaint about you and your behavior on TOTV, and you solicited about ten if us to go to that site and scare him. I will list the names and your PM request when I find it.

It for me nor my wife. Cruel insinuations and comments on my age, etc. nasty stuff when you make such snide comments about others

By the way was just discussing this behavior......you told me that guy you solicited me and some others to attack, was a drunk and made posts while drinking.

Was that true or like insinuating things about my age, etc ?

You will be missed Bucco.

I try to avoid cable news as well and just stick to the evening news.

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It was definitely getting too personal...
Let me take a shot at how I see "opinions" right now...
There are dog people and there are cat people. (We're ignoring those that are both right now).
Both feel very strongly about their preference. Let's say the head of the dog "party" is Tiger Woods, and let's say the head of the cat "party" is Lance Armstrong (you can interchange them...). If you're a cat person you can talk about what a cheater and hot head Tiger is. As a dog person, I might actually agree. I might not even respect Tiger Woods. But whether I think Tiger Woods is the best golfer ever or if I think he's a cheating skum, he is only the current figurehead for dog lovers. And ultimately, my "North star" is that I'm a dog lover.
Many people attack Tiger Woods or Lance Armstrong. Or they say why being a dog (or cat) person is unamerican. People need to understand why people are dog people or cat people. People need to stop attacking the other side. Agree to disagree. Both sides have good reasons for their preference/opinions. Stop putting the other side down...