[B767drvr]

Originally Posted by Rags123

PS.....Just was told and do not have time to check on this, but was told that the White House sent more representation to this young mans funeral than they sent to the funeral of Margaret Thatcher. Anyone know if that is true ??
Anyway, if anyone knows if the administration sent more to this young man's funeral than Thatcher...please post

More White House officials at Michael Brown

[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by Rags123

Are you testifying to the grand jury for Mr. Brown ?

There was a robbery in a cigar store accompanied by strong arming.

Mr Brown's accomplices (the guys with him at that time admit to this)

Conjecture is Mr Brown was being stopped for questioning in that case...only conjecture..no evidence either way.

The picture by the way was released at the same time the police officers name was released. The DOJ, already involved at that point did not want it released. Right or wrong, it appears the police wanted everything non public until the investigation was complete, and maybe picture release was tit for tat on the name...all conjecture.

Why the body laid there so long...nobody knows. Again, in most cases police are allowed to properly investigate without having the entire nation asking for their scalp, but not so in this case. Seems certain folks made this decision immediately.

I sincerely take offense at your remark saying that posters say this shooting was acceptable...that, to me is just plain wrong. I never heard or saw that here or anywhere, but this is becoming just like the Martin case. And every other case of this ilk. All the damning of one side as if a black young man will be shot down for simply walking the street. That for sure did not happen, and to my knowledge, has NEVER occurred involving the police

I remenber two black men were murdered by the Chicago police while they slept, Fred Hampton and Mark Clark. I was a student at the time and remember the outrage then.

[Rags123]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

I remenber two black men were murdered by the Chicago police while they slept, Fred Hampton and Mark Clark. I was a student at the time and remember the outrage then.

Not exactly just walking down the street. Mr Hampton was the leader of the Black Panthers and had been drugged by one of his own guys which did not allow him to react. Mr. Clark was sitting at the door standing guard with a shotgun aimed at the door. FBI raid and bad things happened.

As I read on it, years later, it was discovered this was a terrible injustice, BUT it has nothing to do with the standing accusations of simply shooting down black young men in the streets. Not only a different era (60's) but not remotely s gunning down of an unarmed black man in the street.

[Rags123]

Originally Posted by B767drvr

More White House officials at Michael Brown

Thanks..a neighbor mentioned it to me as I was preparing to leave this evening and I knew nothing of it.

Since then, I think I am correct....there was not one rep of our WH at the memorial service for James Foley.

Means basically nothing but import given events, I suppose. Was just surprising to me.

[DeanFL]

I must say, from my heart - I'm giving up reading this particular Thread. My choice.

I've followed it from the start, and must say I have found it quite irritating at times in many respects. I know I know - just don't read it...I've thought that many times on ToTV when some others may comment on a Thread. But this one has been going nowhere fast. The main Posting People seem to be going 'round and 'round but yada.

I feel very strongly about this topic - and will state that we simply COULD NOT bring ourselves to watch the network news tonight. We typically try to catch it nightly - but tonight the main topic from MO would have been so frustrating. And we simply did not want to view Sharpton in his great glory once again - In our opinion, him and the Media sucking on the emotions and wallets of many --- and in our opinion doing a total dis-service to our blessed country.

With that- the 139th posting I believe on this Thread... and we are OUT. Sorry, I see now that a few more posted before sending, guess this is 141 now...

[sunnyatlast]

Originally Posted by Rags123

Why....what prompts this attitude of actually always and constantly assuming the police offer is wrong and that Zimmerman was wrong…..

WHY are all these implications and outrage about race ? I do not get it and then those who make all these cases go on and on call others racist.

I suppose I am just dumb, but some of this makes no sense whatsoever. It is like cheerleaders for Brown.....

Why? To incite more people to join the mob, to "Keep victimhood alive", and to show up at the polls in November.

[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by Rags123

Not exactly just walking down the street. Mr Hampton was the leader of the Black Panthers and had been drugged by one of his own guys which did not allow him to react. Mr. Clark was sitting at the door standing guard with a shotgun aimed at the door. FBI raid and bad things happened.

As I read on it, years later, it was discovered this was a terrible injustice, BUT it has nothing to do with the standing accusations of simply shooting down black young men in the streets. Not only a different era (60's) but not remotely s gunning down of an unarmed black man in the street.

A history refresher:

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/355670

[Rags123]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

A history refresher:

Nothing but a Northern Lynching: The Death of Fred Hampton Revisited | Susan Rutberg

Tell me TWO things...

First, what part of my post was inaccurate or out of context ?

Secondly, what does this situation almost FIFTY years ago have to do with this current situation ?

I honestly try to reply, but as far as I am concerned this part of the conversation is over...you appear just to want to stir things up..not something I want to be involved with. I'M not going to go back fifty years and debate with you.

[buggyone]

As I said earlier, the deed is done and nothing can bring Michael Brown back. Policeman Wilson's life forever changed in the few seconds it took him to empty his pistol. It really does not matter if he is guilty or innocent - his life is changed forever.

Zimmy's life changed forever, too. He cannot get a permanent job, it seems. He claims that he is working part time security jobs.

Is this right or wrong to happen - even if found not guilty of second degree murder?

Well, they have to play the hand dealt to them by either fate or a choice.

[wendyquat]

Originally Posted by buggyone

I do not understand who you mean by "both of these idiots would have complied with the cops instructions, they would both be alive today"?

As to the first part, I have no idea any more than what has been reported of what actually happened. I have never heard those allegations. Well, maybe that is only one network that is not watched at my house.

Then you are being lied to and misinformed!

[Rags123]

Originally Posted by buggyone

As I said earlier, the deed is done and nothing can bring Michael Brown back. Policeman Wilson's life forever changed in the few seconds it took him to empty his pistol. It really does not matter if he is guilty or innocent - his life is changed forever.

Zimmy's life changed forever, too. He cannot get a permanent job, it seems. He claims that he is working part time security jobs.

Is this right or wrong to happen - even if found not guilty of second degree murder?

Well, they have to play the hand dealt to them by either fate or a choice.

"Zimmy's life changed forever, too. He cannot get a permanent job, it seems. He claims that he is working part time security jobs."

I assume you are referring to Mr. Zimmerman, as have not seen anyone refer to anyone else in such a manner ???

[buggyone]

Originally Posted by Rags123

"Zimmy's life changed forever, too. He cannot get a permanent job, it seems. He claims that he is working part time security jobs."

I assume you are referring to Mr. Zimmerman, as have not seen anyone refer to anyone else in such a manner ???

I feel badly for Wilson that he may go through that same trial by media as Zimmerman and no matter what the verdict, his life will never be the same. Even if there is no trial and the grand jury decides the shooting was totally justified, his life has been changed forever.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

A history refresher:

Nothing but a Northern Lynching: The Death of Fred Hampton Revisited*|*Susan Rutberg

Please don't quote history. The Jews don't send activists to Octoberfest.

Right now, by law people all have the same civil rights. The KKK has diminished to very few numbers, thank God, and not only do minorities have rights they have most of the majority behind them in spirit. BUT until some real effort for change comes from a lot of the urban poor and for many in that same group to take responsibility for their children financially and most importantly by forming a family...than in my view things aren't going to get better for that particular group of black people. And that group drags down and tarnishes all of the good people who are acting like and living like the majority of folks have always acted and lived here in the U.S. They embarrass those who want better for everyone, and they cause a lot of people to be impatient and angry and discouraged. Many need jobs and they need to have drugs removed from their paws.

Drugs cause crime and killing and lethargy and the addiction adds to robberies and vicious actions against others. For too many, drugs is their job AND drugs make many of the urban poor rich in the same way it makes a lot people in suburbia rich too.

I HATE DRUGS. AND the big drug business.

If you wanna talk about big business being a cancer, Drugs are that big business.

What would the best thing be for all of us do here in The Villages to help this problem?

If only the federal programs designed to help some of the urban poor get by wouldn't enable too many to use money for drugs.

If only we could direct the federal programs specifically for the use they were designed to do. How can that happen?

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Please don't quote history. The Jews don't send activists to Octoberfest.

Right now, by law people all have the same civil rights. The KKK has diminished to very few numbers, thank God, and not only do minorities have rights they have most of the majority behind them in spirit. BUT until some real effort for change comes from a lot of the urban poor and for many in that same group to take responsibility for their children financially and most importantly by forming a family...than in my view things aren't going to get better for that particular group of black people. And that group drags down and tarnishes all of the good people who are acting like and living like the majority of folks have always acted and lived here in the U.S. They embarrass those who want better for everyone, and they cause a lot of people to be impatient and angry and discouraged. Many need jobs and they need to have drugs removed from their paws.

Drugs cause crime and killing and lethargy and the addiction adds to robberies and vicious actions against others. For too many, drugs is their job AND drugs make many of the urban poor rich in the same way it makes a lot people in suburbia rich too.

I HATE DRUGS. AND the big drug business.

If you wanna talk about big business being a cancer, Drugs are that big business.

What would the best thing be for all of us do here in The Villages to help this problem?

If only the federal programs designed to help some of the urban poor get by wouldn't enable too many to use money for drugs.

If only we could direct the federal programs specifically for the use they were designed to do. How can that happen?

Excellent post ... and "spot on" as the Brits would say

[sunnyatlast]

Seeing Sharpton screaming and rallying people at the funeral and elsewhere, like it was a campaign rally, I keep wondering why he does not rally young black men and women in Ferguson to:

Graduate from high school, work on self-discipline, and sign up for police schooling and police jobs in Ferguson, so the number of black police there could be proportionate to the black population.

But that's not happening, because that imbalance of white officers is too useful for claiming "racism" as an excuse for not teaching when preaching to the young people.