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Old 11-29-2020, 07:27 PM
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The thing is that you have no way of knowing how it will affect YOU or your loved ones. Even kids and teens have died from this not to mention fine and brave doctors and nurses as well. Just wear a mask and social distance or we will all have to endure another shut down
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Old 11-29-2020, 07:47 PM
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This is off of Facebook--

Perspective.

Here is the story: You get a fever, and it's a little hard to breathe, but not that bad. Take some tylenol and go to bed. You wake up in the middle of the night to find yourself gasping for air. You reach over to your wife and get her attention. She rolls over, “What's wrong honey? It's the middle of the night.” It's then she can hear you breathing, or trying to. She turns on the light and sees the panic in your eyes... No matter how much you inhale, it's not enough, it's never enough. That would be bad enough but the fever is spiking, it's hard to focus. Your three kids come into the room, they heard Mom talking loud, trying to get your attention. The little girl, 6 years old, you're the center of her universe. She's a daddy's girl and loves it when you take her places with you. "Is Daddy Okay?" Mom tries to hide her panic "He's fine honey, he'll be okay..." She struggles trying to decide if she should drive you to the emergency room or get an ambulance. She decides to drive. You're too out of it to get dressed so she takes you in your pajamas. Once there, they admit you. Your wife cannot go in. You're alone. She is sent to the house to quarantine with the rest of your kids. They start to work on you. You're getting tired, your chest hurts from trying to breathe for so long. Your blood pressure is up. They lower your fever a little and put on an oxygen mask. It seems to help a little, but only for an hour or so. Then your lungs begin to fight for air again. They offer to turn you over on your stomach, "sometimes it helps" they say. They roll you over... It does. You look out the door, Doctors are running everywhere. There are patients in the hallways. The ward is full, and everyone is trying to keep up. You hear Code calls, and ventilator machines being rolled up and down the hallway. You notice you cannot smell anything, and you have pain all over. You wonder about your family. Your daughter, the fear in her eyes as her daddy was put into the car. "Why are you leaving Daddy? I'll take care of you..."
Pain.. the fight for air. It's back. You press the button. They roll you back over and check you out. The doctor comes up to your bed. Completely covered, face mask, hood, looks a little like an astronaut. "Sir, you're not getting enough oxygen in your blood. We need to put you on a ventilator." You nod in agreement, gasping. "Sir... You won't be able to talk once we do this. Would you like to say anything to your family? We can arrange a facetime with them if you like.” As your head tries to wrap itself around this offer, one question comes to mind: "How serious is this?" It takes the doc a while to respond, he's done this hundreds of times, but it never gets easy. "Patients that go on a ventilator have a 4 in 10 chance of not recovering. Should we try to reach your family?" You nod... Numb. Your brain can't handle all the info it's getting. The fever, the pain in your chest the struggle for air, it's too much. A nurse comes back in with an iPad. "I have your family online" she tries to say with a smile. You take the Ipad. There they are, all three kids and your wife. Your everything. The look on their faces is a look you've seen before. The brave smiles. The look you give when you feel sorrow and pain, but need to cheer up the person you’re talking too. They are not at home.. It looks like they are outside. You pull in as much air as you can so you can sound somewhat normal. It does not work. "Hey guys, where are you?" Your wife forces another smile. “We're outside your window honey. They put signs out so we know where you are. They can't let us in. We're not supposed to leave the house but we needed to be close to you.” She starts to cry, it's too much for her. That's when it hits you. Clarity, all at once.. You're saying "goodbye.” The next time you hug your family will either be a few weeks from now, or in the hereafter. So this is your last chance to say something. The six year old is shaking, pale with fear. "Hey there nugget.. How you doing?" "Daddy... Please come home... Who will read to me? I miss you so much, please get out of bed.. I'll do anything you want!" You never realized you could cry as hard as you are right now, and it's making the breathing even harder. You know you're scaring her. You cannot stay on much longer. "I'm sorry nugget... I can't get out of bed right now. You take care of your Mama for me okay? I love your everything.” She looks at you through tear soaked eyes.. "I love your everything too.” You can't do it... You can't say goodbye, it's all just too much. The iPad falls in your lap as you struggle to both breathe and cry all at once. An alarm goes off, the Docs surround you and begin to put in the ventilator. Your eyes close for the last time. It's over. It takes years for your family to recover. They lost their rock, and nothing will be the same, ever again... End
I felt compelled to write this to give a perspective to those of us who are more focused on comfort and "getting back to normal.” The above story has played out thousands of times with Mothers, Fathers, Grandparents, and children. Families that will grieve for years to come.
it's not about how high the numbers go. It's about that one person.. Your "everything.”
Please... show compassion. Odds are you know somebody that endured something like this. We're in a war right now, and we're losing. It's time to step up and make sure these kids keep their parents.
Thank you... Jay A Kelley 11/16/2020
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Sad that, like the media, find the most terrifying story (which may, or may not, be completely made up, I mean "Facebook" is full of people needing attention and to feel important by posting shocking things, but whatever) to post. How gracious of you. Perhaps next time, you could find something to lift the spirits of your neighbors and friends here in the V's ? Or, perhaps not, maybe your focus IS shock and fear ?
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Old 11-29-2020, 07:58 PM
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yes. God help you if you say the wrong thing!
Amen to that ! Nasty nasty people, never EVER realized what was really just under the surface with all the smiling, friendly, people I see daily at the postal boxes, swimming pools, and on the courses... paralyzed with fear, wishing terrible things on people who, are just living their lives with faith, enjoying their retirement years, and for the most part (from what I see), wearing masks when asked for or appropriate !
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Old 11-29-2020, 07:58 PM
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The thing is that you have no way of knowing how it will affect YOU or your loved ones. Even kids and teens have died from this not to mention fine and brave doctors and nurses as well. Just wear a mask and social distance or we will all have to endure another shut down
Last I heard, there will be no more shutdowns in Florida and no mask mandates.

Stores generally have a policy to request that masks be worn but will stop short of enforcing that policy.

Certain health conditions make mask wearing very difficult, if not impossible, for some people.

Some people do not cognitively understand what it means to stay 6 feet away from others. They aren't defiant, they legitimately can't judge the distance.

Sometimes people momentarily forget the rules and may pop into the store w/o a mask or walk to close to you.

When you are in public you have to be patient and when you place yourself around others you have to accept a certain amount of risk by doing so.

Yes, it is possible to die a terrible death from Covid. We get it. Thankfully, that is not at all typical.
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Old 11-29-2020, 08:04 PM
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While I feel horrible that this scenario is possible for some...I know MANY people who have had, and recovered from Coronavirus, and all were able to stay in their houses, and have fully recovered. To put out this horrifying post does nothing but continue to terrify those who are already terrified. Stop. Shame on you...
Shame on them for sure ! But, you can guess the type who buys into the sensationalism.... they live in fear themselves and, don't really want their friends and neighbors here to live fear free. If they are too fearful, even while using reasonable precautions, they want everyone else also inside and isolated from friends, wasting away what should be the best of their last years. Another horror story ? Heard on the news last night 70,000 + Americans have died prematurely in the last eight months of opioid related drugs ! ! Anyone loosing sleep and not seeing loved ones due to that ?
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Old 11-29-2020, 08:59 PM
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I don't fear Covid-19, and don't live my life like it might kill me, but I do recognize that it could leave me with health issues further down the line hence as much as I don't generally do flu vaccines I might do this one when it's available.

But I do respect that others may not be as healthy as me, or are fearful or the virus, and so in consideration I will wear a mask wherever I can. No big deal - it's an easy ask. I don't feel like it infringes upon my liberties in any way. And if it can slow down the spread and get us to the other side of this quicker, then it's a no brainer IMO.

Folks who won't wear one in a store for example make no sense to me. It should be a courtesy - claiming that they cannot for health reasons seems pure BS.

It would seem that working together on eradicating this thing is in all of our best interests. The story is helpful because it helps me understand where people are coming from. I understand the fear - I don't understand the BS about not being able to wear a mask or socially distance where possible.
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Old 11-29-2020, 09:14 PM
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Last I heard, there will be no more shutdowns in Florida and no mask mandates.

Stores generally have a policy to request that masks be worn but will stop short of enforcing that policy.

Certain health conditions make mask wearing very difficult, if not impossible, for some people.

Some people do not cognitively understand what it means to stay 6 feet away from others. They aren't defiant, they legitimately can't judge the distance.

Sometimes people momentarily forget the rules and may pop into the store w/o a mask or walk to close to you.

When you are in public you have to be patient and when you place yourself around others you have to accept a certain amount of risk by doing so.

Yes, it is possible to die a terrible death from Covid. We get it. Thankfully, that is not at all typical.
In other words, everyone who is concerned for public health and safety, are just the minority because there are SO many special snowflakes who should be exempt, that there's no point in even trying. Right?
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Old 11-29-2020, 09:28 PM
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I don't fear Covid-19, and don't live my life like it might kill me, but I do recognize that it could leave me with health issues further down the line hence as much as I don't generally do flu vaccines I might do this one when it's available.

But I do respect that others may not be as healthy as me, or are fearful or the virus, and so in consideration I will wear a mask wherever I can. No big deal - it's an easy ask. I don't feel like it infringes upon my liberties in any way. And if it can slow down the spread and get us to the other side of this quicker, then it's a no brainer IMO.

Folks who won't wear one in a store for example make no sense to me. It should be a courtesy - claiming that they cannot for health reasons seems pure BS.

It would seem that working together on eradicating this thing is in all of our best interests. The story is helpful because it helps me understand where people are coming from. I understand the fear - I don't understand the BS about not being able to wear a mask or socially distance where possible.
I also know that while I feel fine, and don't intend to get tested, I COULD easily be a carrier, spreading the sickness to others. And I would really not want to discover that I'm responsible for someone ELSE getting sick, even though I feel fine.

The reason I think it's such a concern though, is because it burdens SO many people. I read some of these posts saying "I don't know anyone affected." And you are all just SO wrong.

You might not know anyone who is SICK. But you know someone who's cousin is sick. or whose daughter's boyfriend's mother died. Or whose housekeeper's grandson has had to work overtime at the hospital because there aren't enough nurses to handle the current influx of people needing hospitalization. And I'm not talking about JUST people with Covid-19. No - those are certainly not the worst problems at the hospitals. Gunshots and heart attacks are worse, of course. But the Covid patients are taking up a lot of space in those hospitals that are now not available for more dire needs.

Did you have to have your yearly checkup via Zoom or some other video chat? If you have, that's because of COVID so yes - you were affected.

Do you have to stand outside the eyeglass place until someone inside leaves, because they're still limiting the number of people allowed in? Then yes - you were affected.

Did your grandkids have to not come to visit, because their state requires them to quarantine for two weeks when they return? Did your mother living in another country have to not come visit, because her country wouldn't let her back in if she travels to the USA? Then yes - you were affected.

The sooner we can get this managed, the better. Because whether you choose to admit it or not, you ARE affected by this virus in one way or another. And the sooner you admit it, acknowledge it, and deal with it, the sooner we can return to something resembling normal again.
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Old 11-29-2020, 10:45 PM
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Dont forget that 270,000 families know someone who died from COVID19. You are one of the lucky ones not included in that number.
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Old 11-29-2020, 10:58 PM
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Shame on them for sure ! But, you can guess the type who buys into the sensationalism.... they live in fear themselves and, don't really want their friends and neighbors here to live fear free. If they are too fearful, even while using reasonable precautions, they want everyone else also inside and isolated from friends, wasting away what should be the best of their last years. Another horror story ? Heard on the news last night 70,000 + Americans have died prematurely in the last eight months of opioid related drugs ! ! Anyone loosing sleep and not seeing loved ones due to that ?
AHA! Covid related deaths. No doubt they have already been added to the list.
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While I feel horrible that this scenario is possible for some...I know MANY people who have had, and recovered from Coronavirus, and all were able to stay in their houses, and have fully recovered. To put out this horrifying post does nothing but continue to terrify those who are already terrified. Stop. Shame on you...
No, I don’t think so. There are over 250,000 people who have actually gone through it. There are more than 250,000 people who would be very happy to be terrified rather than dead.

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No ! Anything YOU do that minimizes the virus’s impact makes YOU the problem.
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No, I don’t think so. There are over 250,000 people who have actually gone through it. There are more than 250,000 people who would be very happy to be terrified rather than dead.
Sorry my friend, but nowhere near 250,000 have gone through the scenario in the OP. Nowhere near 250,000 have even died OF the virus, there are simply 250,000 who died of whatever cause and tested positive, some of them were trauma cases, terminal cancer, cardiovascular events, etc. Tremendous financial incentive for hospitals to code CV-19 as the COD. I doubt we will ever get accurate numbers. But it is interesting that the number of deaths, all causes, in the US month by month has not increased over the average since this pandemic began. This implies that the number of COVID deaths is statistically minimal, and just the cause on the paperwork has been shifted from what it really is to COVID
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No ! Anything YOU do that minimizes the virus’s impact makes YOU the problem.
This is a serious worldwide health concern and shouldn't be "minimized" Likewise, the sky is not falling and the media should not be sensationalizing it and "maximizing" it either. Amazing how many people can be controlled with just a little fear----Danke Herr Himmler!
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Old 11-30-2020, 08:12 AM
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Your mother is the only one here with a brain. Its not a made up story and NOT a flu. Open your eyes people.. do you really think this can't happen to you?
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