[billethkid]

Would anybody have guessed over 23,000 PER WEEK!!!!

Sustained at that rate = 1.2 million per year.

See the following update for additional perspective of the issues/problems:

Exclusive: DHS data shows growing surge of migrants at the border - Axios

We talk about and get to hear a lot about things like global warming and how it is going to affect the future of Americans cities.
There needs to be more discussion about the immigration issue and how, uncontrolled, it will change the future of many American cities.

I am not sure enough American citizens are aware the potential these numbers have on almost every aspect of American way of life.

Hopefully this thread survives being shut down.....the subject needs discussion. It matters not the religion, politics or race.....the impact will affect all.

It certainly can be allowed/tolerated to continue uncontrolled.....as long as people know the results and effects.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Only around 2% of American citizens are Native American, of Native American ancestry. The other 98% are either immigrants, or descended of immigrants. There are around 328 million American citizens, total. That means over 280 million people living in this country are either immigrants, or descendants of immigrants. If immigrants living in the USA is really offensive to you, then be the change.

[manaboutown]

Legal immigration built this country, at least those who came with skills and the desire to work. We would be better off without those who came for welfare and criminal lifestyles.

The various current illegal alien/immigrant invasions need to be stopped.

[seoulbrooks]

There is a huge difference between legal immigration and entering the country as an illegal. Lots of folks do not like calling someone an illegal immigrant. Just want to use the term immigrant, which is incorrect. A huge difference between legal/illegal.

[Kerry Azz]

Originally Posted by Jazuela

Only around 2% of American citizens are Native American, of Native American ancestry. The other 98% are either immigrants, or descended of immigrants. There are around 328 million American citizens, total. That means over 280 million people living in this country are either immigrants, or descendants of immigrants. If immigrants living in the USA is really offensive to you, then be the change.

Our country and values were built on immigrants coming to America and making a life here!
If someone is not happy with having people coming into the country they are always free to leave.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Legal immigration built this country, at least those who came with skills and the desire to work. We would be better off without those who came for welfare and criminal lifestyles.

The various current illegal alien/immigrant invasions need to be stopped.

You really should re-visit your history lessons. This country was founded on hostile invasion of uninvited foreigners. They were not "legal immigrants." There was no system of law in place to determine immigration status. But they did come, by the hundreds, bringing disease and death with them.

There are many reasons to want to step up on existing immigration law and border patrol. "This country was founded on legal immigration" is not one of them.

[anothersteve]

Originally Posted by Kerry Azz

Our country and values were built on immigrants coming to America and making a life here!
If someone is not happy with having people coming into the country they are always free to leave.

Or maybe try something different. Deport them if they are here illegally.
I'm not leaving, that would be silly.. and is a silly suggestion.
Steve
Oh and I think this thread will get shut down PDQ.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by Jazuela

Only around 2% of American citizens are Native American, of Native American ancestry. The other 98% are either immigrants, or descended of immigrants. There are around 328 million American citizens, total. That means over 280 million people living in this country are either immigrants, or descendants of immigrants. If immigrants living in the USA is really offensive to you, then be the change.

All of our immigrant family members followed the law, entering legally and then pursued the rigorous requirement to become a US citizen.

The subject is illegal entry into the USA being uncontrolled and please note that no where in my comments did I suggest or state any dislike for immigration.

[Edjkoz]

Originally Posted by Jazuela

Only around 2% of American citizens are Native American, of Native American ancestry. The other 98% are either immigrants, or descended of immigrants. There are around 328 million American citizens, total. That means over 280 million people living in this country are either immigrants, or descendants of immigrants. If immigrants living in the USA is really offensive to you, then be the change.

I think we are talking about illegal immigration. There is a big difference between legal and illegal. I doubt anyone has a problem with legal immigration

[billethkid]

The only reason this thread will wind up shut down is the propensity for many posts to take stray and debate a difference of opinion or interpretation then focusing on each other.

The thread is about the problems resulting from the hoards of immigrants entering illegally and the problems and impacts created in the communities they take residence.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Jazuela

You really should re-visit your history lessons. This country was founded on hostile invasion of uninvited foreigners. They were not "legal immigrants." There was no system of law in place to determine immigration status. But they did come, by the hundreds, bringing disease and death with them.

There are many reasons to want to step up on existing immigration law and border patrol. "This country was founded on legal immigration" is not one of them.

Yep...exactly.

All too many conveniently forget, or purposely ignore, that this country was actually founded/built by "immigrants" who didn't have to do anything more than show up...and use superior force to subjugate those who had been here for thousands of years.

While we definitely have to have some sensible immigration laws, I truly believe that the biggest fear of a lot of folks is that the unstated adage of "white + might = right"...might be slipping away.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by billethkid

The only reason this thread will wind up shut down is the propensity for many posts to take stray and debate a difference of opinion or interpretation then focusing on each other.

The thread is about the problems resulting from the hoards of immigrants entering illegally and the problems and impacts created in the communities they take residence.

Except using your own data source - those are not people who have entered illegally. Those are people who were STOPPED from entering illegally. They never got through. They were either arrested or turned away.

So your entire concern is based on something that isn't even true according to your own source of data.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Yep...exactly.

All too many conveniently forget, or purposely ignore, that this country was actually founded/built by "immigrants" who didn't have to do anything more than show up...and use superior force to subjugate those who had been here for thousands of years.

While we definitely have to have some sensible immigration laws, I truly believe that the biggest fear of a lot of folks is that the unstated adage of "white + might = right"...might be slipping away.

The thread is about illegal immigration and it's impact on where the take up residence.

[Fredster]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Yep...exactly.

All too many conveniently forget, or purposely ignore, that this country was actually founded/built by "immigrants" who didn't have to do anything more than show up...and use superior force to subjugate those who had been here for thousands of years.

While we definitely have to have some sensible immigration laws, I truly believe that the biggest fear of a lot of folks is that the unstated adage of "white + might = right"...might be slipping away.

Why did you have to interject race into this
discussion which is about massive illegal immigration,
and it’s effects on cities, states and the country?
Personally I’m for legal immigration no matter
where the immigrants may be from!
I also believe in law and order in a country,
as a basis for bringing
about positive conditions beneficial to all citizens!

[choppers62]

Originally Posted by Jazuela

You really should re-visit your history lessons. This country was founded on hostile invasion of uninvited foreigners. They were not "legal immigrants." There was no system of law in place to determine immigration status. But they did come, by the hundreds, bringing disease and death with them.

There are many reasons to want to step up on existing immigration law and border patrol. "This country was founded on legal immigration" is not one of them.

I am Native American...how do you think we felt when your ancestors came to America...bringing diseases and death to our people?