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Old 07-17-2020, 08:00 AM
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Whenever I am in a building or even outdoors in a busy place and see someone who does not wear a mask I believe they are saying "I really don't care about the rest of you". We wear masks to protect others, not ourselves. Let's have a little consideration. The latest discussion on yesterday's news said we could curb this virus in 8 weeks if everyone wore a mask. Why is that not enough to encourage their universal use?
I do not believe that the masks are only to protect others from yourself. When people have chemo and are immune compromised, they wear masks To protect themselves from others and their germs. Do not believe, uncritically, the stuff you read. The supposed experts do not know or they would not be changing their mind every ten minutes.
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Old 07-17-2020, 08:03 AM
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My librarianship training makes me love this. People should dig for the best information on subjects and the American Lung Association is a great source for reliable information unlike some very well paid talking head on Fox News who are in it for the $$$$ as adjusted by their ratings.

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what would be helpful when someone cites research is to provide a the link that supports what they are saying. here is a link from the American Lung Assoc. that rebuts what you say. From the Frontlines: The Truth About Masks and COVID-19 | American Lung Association
From the Frontlines: The Truth About Masks and COVID-19 | American Lung Association
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Old 07-17-2020, 08:06 AM
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It is also common knowledge that to spread the virus you generally need have to have symptoms, coughing, congestion, fever and such.
While the World Health Organization did say that asymptomatic spread of COVID is rare, they walked back that statement the next day. As of July 10, CDC says 40% of COVID cases are spread by asymptomatic people. That means, quite simply, that people who are not coughing, congested, or have a fever are spreading COVID every hour of every day. Please wear a mask.
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Old 07-17-2020, 08:08 AM
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Whenever I enter a commercial building I put on a mask. There are many people who still refuse to wear a mask in this situation. I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask? I am not criticizing anyone for not wearing a mask just wondering why they prefer not to?
Holy Cow, some people are just Stubborn !
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Old 07-17-2020, 08:12 AM
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Whenever I enter a commercial building I put on a mask. There are many people who still refuse to wear a mask in this situation. I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask? I am not criticizing anyone for not wearing a mask just wondering why they prefer not to?
Because some people started a conspiracy theory that this was a ploy and it became politics not a health issue
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Old 07-17-2020, 08:16 AM
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because the science does not prove anything about wearing cotton rags on your face -- and I will not wear one -- and that is that -- shop will be on-line
So then you have chosen to isolate yourself. That's awesome, and I thank you for it. I wish everyone else who refuses to wear a mask would do the same. Sadly - many will not.
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Old 07-17-2020, 08:24 AM
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From what I understand from researching it, asymptomatic people do not shed the virus. So my not wearing a mask is not hurting anyone else. However, wearing a mask does reduce the wearer’s oxygen intake up to 60%, increases the risk of CO2 poisoning, contaminants sit inside the mask and are re-inhaled, and besides all that...breathing fresh air is vital to immune health. So I don’t wear a mask because I don’t believe it protects others and it hurts the one who wears it. And thank you so much for the way you posted this 😊
Well then there are a few things happening with you:

1. You don't understand even a little bit.
2. You are researching the wrong things.
3. Whatever you are researching, you're reading the wrong results of the research.
4. Every single thing you've posted in the quote above is 100% incorrect.
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Old 07-17-2020, 08:30 AM
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I wear a mask purely as a courtesy to those that serve us and are mandated to wear a mask when working. Does the mask protects me? Not really. If someone sneezes or coughs near me, the micro spray generated would most likely reach my eyes, which are great recipients for any forms of microbes or virus traveling through the air. So a mask would not protect me. The debate of the masks has been used as a political tool by our politicians and media. Until the elections, we are doomed with such debate of mask pros and cons.

So if someone doesn’t wear a mask when entering a public building or any establishments, they are not courteous to those that serves them.
If that person who is coughing and sneezing in your direction is wearing a mask, it will have a much better chance of filtering out the saliva droplets that could reach your eyes.

So you'll have a bunch of different types of protection going on, if EVERYONE complied:

You have a REDUCED RISK of someone spreading their disease to you because of THEIR mask, and a reduced risk of you receiving those droplets because of all the places likely for you to receive it: 2 eyes, 2 nostrils, 1 mouth - 3 of the 5 openings will have a form of filter covering them. If you normally wear glasses, then all 5 will have some form of filter or barrier protection on them.

It's not foolproof. It's not a preventative. It's a reduction of risk.
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Old 07-17-2020, 08:42 AM
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People need to stop being so judgmental. I can't wear a mask because of a panic disorder. If I feel like I can't breathe it will trigger a panic attack. If you see me without a mask it is not because I don't care about you or am being discourteous, it's because of a medical condition. If you feel your mask is protecting you then you should have no issue with me. I keep my distance from you and I wash my hands all the time. Don't talk to me to cause me to expel droplets. I am trying to live my life as safely as I can without spreading germs. Please show respect for others, who can't for medical reasons, wear a mask. (FYI- according to the ADA you can't ask people with medical conditions to prove it. It's illegal)
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Old 07-17-2020, 08:46 AM
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People need to stop being so judgmental. I can't wear a mask because of a panic disorder. If I feel like I can't breathe it will trigger a panic attack. If you see me without a mask it is not because I don't care about you or am being discourteous, it's because of a medical condition. If you feel your mask is protecting you then you should have no issue with me. I keep my distance from you and I wash my hands all the time. Don't talk to me to cause me to expel droplets. I am trying to live my life as safely as I can without spreading germs. Please show respect for others, who can't for medical reasons, wear a mask. (FYI- according to the ADA you can't ask people with medical conditions to prove it. It's illegal)
Please show respect for others, and stay out of places where OTHER people might bump into YOU. Stay away from crowds. Stay away from any place that has people walking through lines to get from point A to point B (such as the area where people line up for to check out their groceries - there is cross-traffic).

Or get a face shield. Or take a Xanax on days when you know you'll be exposed to that much stress, and put the mask on anyway.
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Old 07-17-2020, 08:49 AM
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Like most things in life, I think it’s a matter of common sense. People can take a mask with them when they leave the house. If they’re in a crowded place, wear it. But if they’re not in 6 feet of anyone, not necessary.

Maybe some don’t wear masks because they don’t have any, and don’t want to buy them. Masks can be expensive. Retail stores, grocers, banks — supply masks to customers. It would make things easier. We should be on overdrive in the US pumping out masks at this point. Majority still come from China. What about “made in the USA”? Let’s see it!
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Old 07-17-2020, 08:50 AM
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From what I understand from researching it, asymptomatic people do not shed the virus. So my not wearing a mask is not hurting anyone else. However, wearing a mask does reduce the wearer’s oxygen intake up to 60%, increases the risk of CO2 poisoning, contaminants sit inside the mask and are re-inhaled, and besides all that...breathing fresh air is vital to immune health. So I don’t wear a mask because I don’t believe it protects others and it hurts the one who wears it. And thank you so much for the way you posted this 😊
I politely disagree with the “up to 60%” comment. I was curious, so I checked my blood oxygen while wearing my mask. I saw no difference after 20 minutes. Not a scientific study, but good enough for me.
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Old 07-17-2020, 09:02 AM
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Dr Kelly Victory, MD | Explains Everything about Covid19 | Social Distancing | Herd Immunity - YouTube
This will probably get taken off but here goes. Dr Victory yes real name, has some interesting views. Keep an open mind and spend a few minutes taking in this information. All we have is time. You may change your mind. This is not political, Just information.
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Old 07-17-2020, 09:15 AM
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Dr Kelly Victory, MD | Explains Everything about Covid19 | Social Distancing | Herd Immunity - YouTube
This will probably get taken off but here goes. Dr Victory yes real name, has some interesting views. Keep an open mind and spend a few minutes taking in this information. All we have is time. You may change your mind. This is not political, Just information.
I watched it. but I note she is not an infectious disease specialist, in fact it looks like she has spent most of her career working for private companies, not doing clinical work.

I still prefer the American Lung Assoc. or the CDC or Dr. Fauci.....
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Old 07-17-2020, 09:19 AM
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The people refusing to wear masks are not doing it because they’re certain they have already had it and can’t get it again. They’re doing it because they are entitled, disrespectful and Unwilling to comply because they think The rules don’t apply to them. You’re giving people way too much credit
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