[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Byte1

How does "social distancing" keep you from inhaling the virus in a closed area? If that's the case, then social distancing in a grocery store would work even better than sitting in one place such as a restaurant. Funny how there is always some "explanation" to fit the scenario, for whatever suits those that wish to debate. So called "specialists" are saying that being outside is "safer" and a mask is not necessary (if social distancing). Being in Walmart, you are in a large area and should be safer than if you are in a small restaurant. I am asking this because it is interesting to hear the "experts" on here with their explanation that suits their agenda/demands.

I am amused because even though I wear a mask when shopping, I have not worn a mask at a restaurant since they reopened, and I eat out at least once a week.

By the way, I have a relative that is in ICU wearing a respirator fighting for his life, virus infected. He ALWAYS wore a mask and has not been around anyone that has tested positive, other than when he visited a relative in the hospital that tested negative. The patient was not in the hospital for virus related illness. The only way this relative could have contracted the virus is by visiting in the hospital, if wearing a mask kept him safe before the visit. He was not around any crowds and shopped curbside, and had no visitors to his home and did not visit anyone else except family that all tested negative after he was infected.

I've seen video of how the virus drops off within 6 feet and becomes a non issue when someone is infected with the virus. The "experts" tell us that a six foot distance is what is necessary to be safer than any closer because the virus does just not project that far. I believe this science or I would not dine in restaurants. The restaurants that make me feel safer are the ones which have raised dividers between their booths. The added protection makes me feel safer.

So sorry to hear about your relative. I guess nothing is 100% as far as being protected in this pandemic and I wouldn't expect that. I just refuse to hold up in my home forever and not get out there and enjoy life. I always wear masks indoors and hope that as more and more people will do that, we all will be safer to live our lives in this new normal of ours.

I'm respectful when dining in a restaurant. I wear my mask as I enter and move about in the restaurant. I wear a mask while ordering. The mask comes off when my drink is served and remains off until I get up to leave the restaurant. Hubby does these same practices.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Ss6247

That woman you shamed in the grocery store, because she wasn't wearing a mask? She already feels enough shame because she was raped. Having something over her nose & mouth triggers her PTSD, and causes her to relive that trauma.
That man at the Quickee Mart who you called selfish? He's a volunteer firefighter, and just came from the ER, after being treated for smoke inhalation. He removed his air mask, in order to help a child breathe fresh air, instead of thick smoke.
That elderly lady who you screamed at to put a mask on, or shop when it's her turn? Her husband of 60 years just passed away. She's doing her best to learn to live alone. Every breath is physically painful, due to her grief.
That little boy you lectured about removing his mask? He's autistic. He doesn't understand. He simply wants it off of his face.
That little girl who screams when somebody tries to mask her? She's claustrophobic. She came from an abusive home, where she was confined to a closet.
There are all sorts of reasons for not wearing a mask. Not all are lung, or immune system related.
How many of you are among those shaming, name calling, and berating complete strangers, or worse, family members? How many of you are against bullying?
If you are among the first group, and align with the second, you may want to pump the brakes, and check yourself... you have become the bully you claim to be against.
Wearing a mask does not make you a kind person. You are either a kind person, or you aren't. A piece of cloth does not determine that trait.
On the flipside, not wearing a mask does not make a person selfish, or inconsiderate. It simply means that, there may be an unseen reason why they cannot wear one. You don't know their story, and, to be quite honest, it's none of your business.

I get what you are saying. In 100% of your scenarios, a face shield would be the alternative to wearing a mask maybe with the exception of the autistic child who does not understand the need.

Also......in any one of your scenarios, every one of those people could just stay home.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Curtisbwp

The reason may be reasonable. The wearing of masks may be detrimental to their health. If you read the ADA (American Disability Act) you will find a list of disabilities that are exempt from wearing masks because it is harmful to their health. Wallmart has implemented a policy about mask wearing. I will bet that NONE of the enforcing employees have not been fully trained. Walmart has severly restricted the entrance and exit doors including blocking them with carrages. I would like to have the NEW evacuation routs in case of emergency. Fire, hostile forces in the store etc.

Walmart has one set of doors locked from the outside so patrons can not enter. I would hope exiting all doors is still available in case of fire.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Walmart has one set of doors locked from the outside so patrons can not enter. I would hope exiting all doors is still available in case of fire.

All doors that I've seen in Walmart can be used as an exit. No idea about the ones in the storage rooms but all the visible doors can be exited.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Heyitsrick

This is what you wrote:



You mentioned no percentages or raw numbers. You simply said that in the sub-set of people who are making it clear they are refusing to wear masks, it's "mostly seniors". You're saying that out of the total undefined number of those who fit this description of intentionally not wearing masks and wanting everyone to know, seniors make up the bigger slice of the pie.

I'm merely saying - and quite accurately - that seniors as a demographic are by far the largest group in the area, and it stands to reason that you're going to see more of them engaged in this behavior than smaller groups based on pure demographic percentages.




Area demographics, as some people may have forgotten in their old age, are what they are. And honestly - most people will do grocery shopping fairly close to where they live.

This is from the USDA: "The average household traveled 3.79 miles to their primary grocery, even though the closest store was 2.14 miles way. This was true, with little variation, across all income groups. USDA says this indicates shoppers are sensitive to price, quality, and selection in addition to proximity."



Yes, I can do the math. Your own observations are making my point about demographics. Anecdotally, you're saying senior shoppers are by far the predominant demographic in the store. And that goes back to my point about numbers - since seniors do make up the greatest share of the area population, it makes sense that you are going to see more of them engaging in this behavior.

I'm not saying that the younger patrons you're observing aren't indicative of that demographic's behavior in other local stores, but it's really a very small number you're citing. One wonders what you would see if 500 of this age group shopped in your store on a given day.

EXCELLENT point. These young whipper snappers are the "mindful" ones who are going to "Covid parties" to see who can catch the virus first. Is this really the generation of our future? Scary stuff.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by ffresh

May I have your papers please?

Is that the sort of society you want to be a part of because others make choices that aren't in accord with your own

As William Wallace so eloquently put it on his death bed: Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedoooooommmmmmmmmmmmm!

Others may obediently put your masks on, OR stay home if you're immunologically challenged, or merely AFRAID.


Fred

May I see your Passport please?
May I see your insurance card please?
May I see your picture ID please?

[ldivens]

It is wear a mask OR physical distancing NOT both. People who are wearing a mask must not have confidence in the mask if they are afraid of people who not wearing one. If you are afraid then you move away, you can only change your behavior not everyone around you

[ffresh]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Wow! Mass panic, mass hysteria! ...

OR … is it Mask panic, Mask hysteria?


As to the rest of your post: VERY WELL stated - I concur!

Fred

[Edcarney]

Because it has been a proven fact that wearing a mask does little or no good unless they are properly rated, fitted and worn properly. I have seen very few (if any) who have fitted mask with that are worn and rated properly. If you are going to do something do it properly or don’t do it at all.

[rmd2]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

There should be a T-Shirt that says, "I BEAT Covid-19. I can NOT infect you"

I would trust that about as much as I do the service animal vests on dogs.

[rmd2]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Anyone who claims they have a medical reason for not wearing a mask, can just stay home. OR.........To gain entry, a person should have to produce a letter from a physician on the physician's letter head that they have a medical condition and are not able to wear a mask.

This person could have everything delivered. Problem solved.

[rmd2]

Originally Posted by Danz654

Now you have to wear them to go is most stores. So I will wear it. I’m claustrophobic and for some reason feel very confined. don’t feel right breathing in my own exhaust.

You could try a face shield. It would be easier to breathe.

[rmd2]

Originally Posted by Byte1

How does "social distancing" keep you from inhaling the virus in a closed area? If that's the case, then social distancing in a grocery store would work even better than sitting in one place such as a restaurant. Funny how there is always some "explanation" to fit the scenario, for whatever suits those that wish to debate. So called "specialists" are saying that being outside is "safer" and a mask is not necessary (if social distancing). Being in Walmart, you are in a large area and should be safer than if you are in a small restaurant. I am asking this because it is interesting to hear the "experts" on here with their explanation that suits their agenda/demands.

I am amused because even though I wear a mask when shopping, I have not worn a mask at a restaurant since they reopened, and I eat out at least once a week.

By the way, I have a relative that is in ICU wearing a respirator fighting for his life, virus infected. He ALWAYS wore a mask and has not been around anyone that has tested positive, other than when he visited a relative in the hospital that tested negative. The patient was not in the hospital for virus related illness. The only way this relative could have contracted the virus is by visiting in the hospital, if wearing a mask kept him safe before the visit. He was not around any crowds and shopped curbside, and had no visitors to his home and did not visit anyone else except family that all tested negative after he was infected.

Just an aside -- I would not be visiting anyone in a hospital these days.

[OhioBuckeye]

Originally Posted by Jeff5115

Whenever I enter a commercial building I put on a mask. There are many people who still refuse to wear a mask in this situation. I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask? I am not criticizing anyone for not wearing a mask just wondering why they prefer not to?

Personally I call it Stupid! It's up to them what they want to do but I'm playing it safe & not going to breath their fumes. Don't know if this virus is a hype or what but I'm not taking any chances. Do what you want!

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by blueash

I'll say this as gently as I can. You are wrong. And posting such misinformation is bad for public health and disease prevention. Your research is not correct. You need to be reading more scientific and fewer political websites. If you are actually interested you may PM me and I will reply with several accurate up to date references.

Wearing a mask does not reduce your oxygen intake up to 60%. The wearer would drop like a rock in a matter of minutes. Surgeons and OR nurses would be unable to work. A simple google search would completely debunk your false beliefs about the danger of masks
Just google What is the effect of masks on oxygen and carbon dioxide and read the hits.

You are free to "believe" what you want. Your beliefs are not science based and are only being pushed on right wing conspiracy theory websites and media. Fortunately you can take the opportunity to read the truth on other sources.

Your poster omits one last segment. The guy that is peeing with the pants on, and there should be a person without pants on. And it should show that the person without pants on would not get peed on. You wear the mask so that I do not get "peed on" or in this case, I don't get the virus because you are wearing a mask WITH Covid. Thank you. If you wear the mask then I don't have to. TO think that I have been wearing a mask for no reason.