[dewilson58]

Bad parking, words, assault, shooting, death.

Things escalated quickly.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Bad parking, words, assault, shooting, death.

Thinks escalated quickly.

I saw that on the news. Took place in Clearwater. Guy pushed a man down who was carrying a concealed weapon. Argument over a parking spot and the girlfriend's parking job or something like that.

Just do not get the result that this shooting was justified. Seems like a ridiculous slippery slope.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

I saw that on the news. Took place in Clearwater. Guy pushed a man down who was carrying a concealed weapon. Argument over a parking spot and the girlfriend's parking job or something like that.

Just do not get the result that this shooting was justified. Seems like a ridiculous slippery slope.

Someone called someone out for parking in a handicapped spot who wasn't handicapped. Boyfriend defended girlfriend verbally who was sitting in the car in the handicapped space and then boyfriend pushed the other guy down, the pushed down guy fired on him.

Not good, any way you slice it. The not handicapped man/woman shouldn't have parked in the handicapped space. The man should NOT have called them out on it, the boyfriend should not have laid his hands on the guy even if he was ****ed, and the man shouldn't have killed him. Most of us would NOT have had this happen because, except for on this forum, we usually mind our own business, like our PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS taught us, and common sense urges us to do.


Please someone help me down from here.

[retiredguy123]

If the man who was pushed down was over 65, I think the law may consider the shooting justified. Florida has strict laws about when someone can shoot another person, but when the person being threatened is elderly, it is easier to justify that his life was in danger.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Someone called someone out for parking in a handicapped spot who wasn't handicapped. Boyfriend defended girlfriend who was sitting in the car in the handicapped space verbally and then pushed the other guy down, the pushed down guy fired on him.

Not good, any way you slice it. The not handicapped man/woman shouldn't have parked in the handicapped space. The man should NOT have called them out on it, the boyfriend should not have laid his hands on the guy even if he was ****ed, and the man shouldn't have killed him. Most of us would NOT have had this happen because, except for on this forum, we usually mind our own business, like our PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS taught us, and common sense urges us to do.


Please someone help me down from here.

Just do not get why it is OK to pull a gun in a shoving match. There are circumstances when I could see it being OK if the person shoved is in very bad health and could die from being pushed over, but that does not seem to be the case.

Facts should matter a great deal in these cases.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Just do not get why it is OK to pull a gun in a shoving match. There are circumstances when I could see it being OK if the person shoved is in very bad health and could die from being pushed over, but that does not seem to be the case.

Facts should matter a great deal in these cases.

We don't know Counselor, but apparently it may be the law here. Laws are not always logical or in everyone's best interest.

Minding your own business unless it is a clear case of helping someone who is in danger or hurt is the best policy and often practiced by OLD people and smart new ones.

Florida Shooter Protected By Stand Your Ground Law

We must always ask ourselves; Do we want to have the last word or do we want our nose smacked in???(I say as I sit here protected in my kitchen)

[B-flat]

Live and Let Live!

[Taltarzac725]

Gunman in parking space shooting not charged because of 'Stand Your Ground' law - ABC News

Facts should matter with the law. Context is extremely important.

If you have not seen the video of this, there is one above. Granted this is slanted a bit in coverage.

[graciegirl]

I also say, laws be damned, if ANY creature ever threatened the life of my heirs and assigns, I could tear them apart and set them on fire.

Oxytocin. Amazing ****.

[C4Boston]

Bottom line, mind your own damn business.

[manaboutown]

Tough call on this one. That was an uncalled for rough shove to the ground. If the pushed down man felt further physically threatened I can understand why he shot the man who battered him.

[Taltarzac725]

Someone tried to carjack me in rural Eastern Nevada just off of Highway 50 in a rest stop at 3:00 AM in June of 1984. He had threatened to slam the door on my legs when I was moving things around to sleep. I managed to get my legs back in the car and thought seriously of running the man over but instead backed it up and got out of there. Had to pull over to get some sleep soon after that.

I regret that I did not report this to the police. I was so tired that I did not think I could have given them an accurate account of what happened.

The place I had wanted to stop for the night had lost power to its hotels and gas pumps. Did manage to find gas further on but was coasting on fumes. Thankfully the gas station was at the other side of a steep hill from the powerless town. But a good distance between gas stations.

I still wonder what would have happened if I had run that guy over? He was not armed that I could see. Just threatened to slam the door on my legs if I did not get out of the car.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Tough call on this one. That was an uncalled for rough shove to the ground. If the pushed down man felt further physically threatened I can understand why he shot the man who battered him.

Testosterone. I don't have that.

[rivaridger1]

What is the next physical act following the shove to the ground ? A kick in the head ?? There have been a number of incidents over the years where the person shoved struck their heads and died. I must admit if I were shoved in the manner depicted in the video, fear for my life would enter the equation. I think the authorities made the right call in not charging the shooter but also understand that decision is subject to review. The answer is easy, keep your hands off of others even when angry.

[retiredguy123]

It looks like self defense to me.