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Stu from NYC 06-29-2020 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1794593)
A quick search of fact-checking sites...would show this to be patently untrue.

I can't link any of them, for obvious reasons (re: the folks spreading this false rumor), but in the immortal words of the X-Files...the truth is out there.
:ho:

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You are totally wrong. Buy something from Amazon for say $ 8 and it is shipped by air cross country for the same price. How can the post office make money on their share of the sale?

Timeweaver1 06-29-2020 01:52 PM

I believe most of the "mail" is packages like Amazon and Kohl's. These companies should be supporting the mail system and not taxes.

Larry Poling 06-29-2020 01:56 PM

Postal service costs
 
After reading the thread, mostly negative, I looked up "Is the postal service a government agency?" The answer is normal government confusion but the postal service is an independent agency of the executive branch. It receives NO tax dollars for operating expenses and relies on the sale of postage, products and service to fund its operation. However it also is protected by 200 federal laws enforced by the Postal Inspection Service. So what the devil is it? The govt requires it to provide retirees funds for what 75 years but its not a true government agency (this changed many years ago). But when it fails to properly fund itself it calls on the taxpayers to bale it out? By the way, lets talk about fake news. A few weeks ago there was an ad on Facebook recruiting all levels of postal workers. At the beginning of the ad it stated that entry level salary was just over $72,000 a year (yes, 72k) but then at the end of the ad it said $17 an hour. Perhaps this is why its so messed up. They can't multiply. $17 an hour for a full year is $35,360 not $72,000. I'm sure we can all gone on about our experiences. Meanwhile lets throw away those pieces of junk mail. Discussions are very difficult on how to fix the system.

Incoblack1 06-29-2020 03:10 PM

The postal service does a great job at a fair price. Leave it alone!

John41 06-29-2020 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by harry black (Post 1794683)
The postal service does a great job at a fair price. Leave it alone!

I second that. !!!

Investment Painting Contractors 06-29-2020 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1793997)
The problem With USPS as other federal agencies they have more mangers, supervisors, and directors than they do employees actually doing the work. Bloated and ineffective. Private companies don’t have this problem, I’d they do there not in business very long.

I had a contract for painting 3 Post Offices in the 90s. There was a least 3 people sitting on their A$$ for every person working. The most supervisors per worker I had ever seen. The Moral was in the Dumps. We completed our contract and turned down all future offers from the Company that owned the buildings. The management has spent the Pension Money and the Federal Government has been supporting them every since. The workers were nice but it was still the most depressing place with the most miserable management of any place I've ever worked. At least a Private company makes sure management has more than seniority. Ask your mail carrier in the Villages if the have Retirement? The answer in No. This has been a poorly run business for decades. These are my OPINIONS from experience and are not to be construed as POLITICAL.

Bridget Staunton 06-29-2020 05:16 PM

Cut out the government pensions like corporate america did.

boobear51751 06-29-2020 07:10 PM

USPS reform
 
First there is absolutely no need for Saturday delivery. Look at the millions that would be saved. Stick to two day delivery on important matters and not overnight. That could go to one of the other shippers. There isn't a lot of money to be made because there isn't that much shipped overnight. Make the responsibilities of retirement totally an employees business. No federal backing. A good majority of big industry no longer supplies retirement to its' employees. Most of the mail people here in TV are independents and is what it should be. They too should be paid a decent wage which I know they are not.

Decadeofdave 06-29-2020 07:18 PM

If you have been in a large facility that sorts and distributes mail you would see a lot of people not working. Some employees of these f postal facilities have side gigs they run while on the job. It's not like Miracle on 34th street anymore. I have more than a few stories about the inefficiency on the PO. (Relative was a postmaster)

Topspinmo 06-29-2020 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1793958)
I don't know the actual cost figures, but I believe the 75 year rule has been modified. But, a compromise would be for the Post Office to fund an amount that is based on the real projected cost for the benefits they promise to their employees. A postal employee who starts working at age 25 can retire at age 55, and then receive retirement and health benefits for the next 30 years or longer while producing no work for the Post Office. That is a real cost to the taxpayers that will typically amount to hundreds of thousands of dollars per employee.

You sure you’re not taking about teachers union retirement plan?

Neils 06-30-2020 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by LoisR (Post 1793878)
Did you know that the USPS delivers over 472 million pieces of mail daily. Yes, that's no mistake. More than 472 million pieces of mail are delivered every day.
Did you also know that some of our elected officials (specifically one ) have withheld funding from the USPS because they believe it can be run more efficiently run if it were privatized?
Why not privatize our armed forces? Wasn't it the reserves and national guard who were first called up during the last several wars because our armed forces had not yet been fully trained or supplied to effectively respond?
Please consider calling your elected official and voice your opinion that the USPS must be saved and properly funded.

Privatize the policy

All the good officers are requesting retirement or resigning.

dewilson58 06-30-2020 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by harry black (Post 1794683)
The postal service does a great job at a fair price. Leave it alone!


That's what was said about the stage coach.


:1rotfl:

stadry 06-30-2020 05:52 AM

we're starting the last life end of month in tv so will delay opinion of fl's local dmv til then,,, have to admit fruitland's p/o personnel were pleasant,,, however, what i express mail'd to my office took 8d to arrive,,, rather slow, eh ?

Markers333 06-30-2020 06:37 AM

UPS and FedEx do NOT deliver to rural the packages are passed on to the Usps who delivers what’s called “ The Last Mile” they don’t go anywhere outside of big city where they can make a profit - if the Postal Service went private, they too would only deliver to the “cream at the top” and you may start paying over 100 to mail a package!! Right now USPS is mandated to deliver to every American, goods and services.

Jima64 06-30-2020 07:33 AM

uninformed fake news
 
just how many hundreds of millions of pieces of mail is junk make that goes directly into the shredder or trashcan every day without being read? My dad retired from the PO in the 70's, I left PO employment in the mid 70's after deciding turning into an alcoholic to endure the stupid management wasn't worth the job. This was a time when the main Jax post office at west bay annex was not air conditioned at all and the parcel post was manhandled on the top floor. But I am still on the side of funding the PO with the hope that changes might occure but the union needs to tune down their demands.


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