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mark100 06-30-2020 07:48 AM

How much of it was junk main?
I recently spoke with a postal employee at Lady Lake PO. I was complaining about my desire to stop some of the garbage mail I get. She summed it up this way, "That junk mail keeps us in business.

Stu from NYC 06-30-2020 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jima64 (Post 1795059)
just how many hundreds of millions of pieces of mail is junk make that goes directly into the shredder or trashcan every day without being read? My dad retired from the PO in the 70's, I left PO employment in the mid 70's after deciding turning into an alcoholic to endure the stupid management wasn't worth the job. This was a time when the main Jax post office at west bay annex was not air conditioned at all and the parcel post was manhandled on the top floor. But I am still on the side of funding the PO with the hope that changes might occure but the union needs to tune down their demands.

If it was privatized with the requirement that all mail must be handled at a profit and delivered to all address in the US posts office might have a shot

Alaska Butch 06-30-2020 08:06 AM

Obviously a poor analogy. The USPS flounders in red ink every year. There are several healthy private companies that would likely keep prices low. Ditch the USPS!

Tyrone Shoelaces 06-30-2020 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1793885)
Why? If other people get mail like I do, then about 467 million of the 472 million pieces are junk mail that go right into the trash.

In my opinion, funding the Post Office is a waste of money, fuel, and labor.

Man, if I could hit that thumbs up button a hundred times...

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 06-30-2020 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Schaumburger (Post 1793929)
Here is some food for thought in defense of the USPS, which does need reform, instead of being abolished.

My elderly dad, along with 20% of Americans, gets maintenance medication delivered by the USPS. In 2019, the USPS delivered 1.2 billion prescriptions, including almost 100% of the prescriptions delivered by the Dept. of Veterans Affairs.

The USPS is mandated to deliver to all addresses in the U.S. Fed Ex and UPS do not have this mandate; if it is not profitable for Fed Ex and UPS to deliver to a rural area, they are not required to. So how will Americans living in remote areas get their packages and mail? How will veterans living in remote areas get their maintenance medication shipped to them if the USPS is abolished?

One requirement that needs reform regarding the USPS is the requirement that USPS is required to pre-pay health benefits for retirees 75 years into the future. This requirement has been a major factor in the USPS' operating losses since 2006.

Please note: the statistics are from CNBC and The American Prospect.

It's very simple. You create a contract with Fed EX, UPS and other private carriers that mandate that they deliver to every address in the country.

There is very little that the government does that private industry doesn't do better, less expensively and more efficiently.

There are somethings that need to be handled by government but they are few and far between. Police, fire and military are the basics.

Many of the other programs have been established to give more power to elected officials.

retiredguy123 06-30-2020 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mark100 (Post 1795076)
How much of it was junk main?
I recently spoke with a postal employee at Lady Lake PO. I was complaining about my desire to stop some of the garbage mail I get. She summed it up this way, "That junk mail keeps us in business.

How sad. Basically, the only way that woman could answer your complaint was to say that she delivers junk as mail to you and you are required by Federal law to accept it and to dispose of it, so she can keep her job.

retiredguy123 06-30-2020 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1795219)
It's very simple. You create a contract with Fed EX, UPS and other private carriers that mandate that they deliver to every address in the country.

There is very little that the government does that private industry doesn't do better, less expensively and more efficiently.

There are somethings that need to be handled by government but they are few and far between. Police, fire and military are the basics.

Many of the other programs have been established to give more power to elected officials.

Yes. And, that would not be much different from the Federal laws that require telephone and cable TV companies to offer basic low cost services for people who cannot afford the higher priced services.

Stu from NYC 06-30-2020 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1795219)
It's very simple. You create a contract with Fed EX, UPS and other private carriers that mandate that they deliver to every address in the country.

There is very little that the government does that private industry doesn't do better, less expensively and more efficiently.

There are somethings that need to be handled by government but they are few and far between. Police, fire and military are the basics.

Many of the other programs have been established to give more power to elected officials.

Right on

Neils 06-30-2020 10:52 AM

Charge 1st class rates for anything mailed. No bulk discounts, magazine rates, company special discounts. Low delivery fees to Amazon or Walmart.

Problem solved.

Dahabs 06-30-2020 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1793940)
I would propose that people should have the option to cancel their Post Office account and remove their mailbox, but your father could keep his account. If a letter or junk mail is sent to someone who has cancelled their account, the mail would be returned, and the sender would need to use UPS, FedEx, or another private delivery service. But, the current system requires every person to have a USPS account, and if the IRS, a bank, or a lawyer sends you a letter, the courts will rule that you have received the letter. Also, you cannot stop junk mail from being deposited into you mailbox until it overflows.

Why is it not an option to request no "junk Mail" or unaddressed mail. I gather other countries have that option.

Stu from NYC 06-30-2020 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahabs (Post 1795281)
Why is it not an option to request no "junk Mail" or unaddressed mail. I gather other countries have that option.

Because the powers to be have said no.

dewilson58 06-30-2020 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahabs (Post 1795281)
Why is it not an option to request no "junk Mail" or unaddressed mail. I gather other countries have that option.


Because it pays the bills (not all of the bills, but a lot).

retiredguy123 06-30-2020 12:16 PM

It's absurd. If every time you went to a store, other business, or a public place, someone handed you junk advertising, most people would probably just say "no thanks" and hand it back or refuse to take it. But, the Post Office does the same thing every day, and you are required to accept it.

dewilson58 06-30-2020 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1795328)
It's absurd. If every time you went to a store, other business, or a public place, someone handed you junk advertising, most people would probably just say "no thanks" and hand it back or refuse to take it. But, the Post Office does the same thing every day, and you are required to accept it.


refer to post #86


$$$$$

Bwolf1 06-30-2020 12:54 PM

Thanks for a great post.


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