[Figmo Bohica]

so said a South Carolina Sheriff.

Seems that there is so many crimes against women in this South Carolina town, that the Spartenberg County Sheriff just advised all women to get rid of the pepper spray, tasers or other non-lethal weapons and arm themselves with 45s to be carried in their purses. He even stated that his department would provide training if needed. This was reported on Fox News, so I am wondering if any other media outlet will pick up the story or if the sheriff is maybe running for re-election and need some help in getting votes.

I have been training shooters for a long time and have found that most ladies can not handle a 45 ACP nor do they want to carry one in their purse as the Sheriff suggested. To dis-spell any myths, there is no one shot stop caliber, sorry guys to bust that myth for you, in a handgun, no matter what caliber you suggest, even up to and including the 454 Casull and 500 S&W. What really matters is shot placement and if you can hit what you are shooting at, there is no sense in carrying a hand cannon when you are afrid of shooting and can not hit what you shot at because of that.

I am all for every lady getting her concealed carry permit, even if she never carrys nor even owns a handgun. Numbers are what count. If there are a large number of ladies with CCW permits criminals never know for sure, is she or is she not carrying. Every state that has passed "shall issure" laws, violent crimes have went down. Countries that have banned the private ownership of firearms has seen an increase in violent crimes. Google crimes against persons in the UK, Austrialia and Canada. US states and cities where ownship is banned or very limited, IE., Detriot/New York City has some of the highest crimes against persons in the United States.

So if handguns are banned, why is there so many used in crimes in these cities? Guess criminal don't really care about laws, guess that's why they are called criminals. Just being funny, sorry I will stop now.

[GTTPF]

I like that sheriff. There are times when my wife is not with me. I would feel better knowing that she could protect herself if the need ever arised. Even if she would at least carry pepper spray. One thing that I have been told by many police friends of mine. If you have no other choice but to pull you firearm they only want to hear one side to the story. So if you carry a firearm learn to use it properly and pray that you never need it! IMHO

[Indydealmaker]

Originally Posted by GTTPF

I like that sheriff. There are times when my wife is not with me. I would feel better knowing that she could protect herself if the need ever arised. Even if she would at least carry pepper spray. One thing that I have been told by many police friends of mine. If you have no other choice but to pull you firearm they only want to hear one side to the story. So if you carry a firearm learn to use it properly and pray that you never need it! IMHO

[rubicon]

FG

Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica

so said a South Carolina Sheriff.

Seems that there is so many crimes against women in this South Carolina town, that the Spartenberg County Sheriff just advised all women to get rid of the pepper spray, tasers or other non-lethal weapons and arm themselves with 45s to be carried in their purses. He even stated that his department would provide training if needed. This was reported on Fox News, so I am wondering if any other media outlet will pick up the story or if the sheriff is maybe running for re-election and need some help in getting votes.

I have been training shooters for a long time and have found that most ladies can not handle a 45 ACP nor do they want to carry one in their purse as the Sheriff suggested. To dis-spell any myths, there is no one shot stop caliber, sorry guys to bust that myth for you, in a handgun, no matter what caliber you suggest, even up to and including the 454 Casull and 500 S&W. What really matters is shot placement and if you can hit what you are shooting at, there is no sense in carrying a hand cannon when you are afrid of shooting and can not hit what you shot at because of that.

I am all for every lady getting her concealed carry permit, even if she never carrys nor even owns a handgun. Numbers are what count. If there are a large number of ladies with CCW permits criminals never know for sure, is she or is she not carrying. Every state that has passed "shall issure" laws, violent crimes have went down. Countries that have banned the private ownership of firearms has seen an increase in violent crimes. Google crimes against persons in the UK, Austrialia and Canada. US states and cities where ownship is banned or very limited, IE., Detriot/New York City has some of the highest crimes against persons in the United States.

So if handguns are banned, why is there so many used in crimes in these cities? Guess criminal don't really care about laws, guess that's why they are called criminals. Just being funny, sorry I will stop now.

FG.... apparently that sheriff never tried to find anything in his wife's purse. I spent half a day looking in my wife's for our checkbook. LOL with that suggestion

[GTTPF]

Very true Rubicon

[njbchbum]

guess it's a good thing that totv is one step ahead of that sheriff with our 'ladies posse'!

[wendyquat]

Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica

so said a South Carolina Sheriff.

Seems that there is so many crimes against women in this South Carolina town, that the Spartenberg County Sheriff just advised all women to get rid of the pepper spray, tasers or other non-lethal weapons and arm themselves with 45s to be carried in their purses. He even stated that his department would provide training if needed. This was reported on Fox News, so I am wondering if any other media outlet will pick up the story or if the sheriff is maybe running for re-election and need some help in getting votes.

I have been training shooters for a long time and have found that most ladies can not handle a 45 ACP nor do they want to carry one in their purse as the Sheriff suggested. To dis-spell any myths, there is no one shot stop caliber, sorry guys to bust that myth for you, in a handgun, no matter what caliber you suggest, even up to and including the 454 Casull and 500 S&W. What really matters is shot placement and if you can hit what you are shooting at, there is no sense in carrying a hand cannon when you are afrid of shooting and can not hit what you shot at because of that.

I am all for every lady getting her concealed carry permit, even if she never carrys nor even owns a handgun. Numbers are what count. If there are a large number of ladies with CCW permits criminals never know for sure, is she or is she not carrying. Every state that has passed "shall issure" laws, violent crimes have went down. Countries that have banned the private ownership of firearms has seen an increase in violent crimes. Google crimes against persons in the UK, Austrialia and Canada. US states and cities where ownship is banned or very limited, IE., Detriot/New York City has some of the highest crimes against persons in the United States.

So if handguns are banned, why is there so many used in crimes in these cities? Guess criminal don't really care about laws, guess that's why they are called criminals. Just being funny, sorry I will stop now.

I have my concealed weapon permit and a brand new LCP that I've never shot. Why don't you start a class for us? I don't know the proper channel to do it, but I'm sure someone could tell you.

[redwitch]

My only objection would be that many would carry but would not be willing to use it; just show it or mention they have it. If you're going to carry a weapon, be prepared to use it and use it where it will do the most good (pepper spray in the eyes, taser in the chest, gun either head or neck -- they might be wearing a bulletproof vest so, to my mind, chest is no longer a good choice).

[Figmo Bohica]

Originally Posted by wendyquat

I have my concealed weapon permit and a brand new LCP that I've never shot. Why don't you start a class for us? I don't know the proper channel to do it, but I'm sure someone could tell you.

Paperwork is in the process of being started to start a handgun shooting club here. It will be for all, from the very beginner to the highly advanced. Will keep you posted on what is happening and when it gets off the ground if there is enough interest.

[blaZen]

Several gun makers offer .22 magnum derringers. Most are five shot and can fit in the palm of ones hand, or in a pocket. Cost approximately $200.

[B. Johnson]

Handgun shooting club sounds just perfect. Please keep the information on it's creation coming. We are moving to TV in January, wife has never fired any gun but agrees that she should learn and is willing to use if, unfortunately, it ever becomes necessary. Contemplating a closet pump-shotgun and small caliber (maybe 9mm) for her purse.
Thanks for the information.

[allus70]

Actually NYC is #44 in the crime rate among U.S. cities of over 250,000 people, Detroit is #12. Since handguns that are bought in states in which there are few restrictions wind up many times in the commission of crimes in states with stricter gun laws, statistics are somewhat skewered. A better comparision would be to compare the U.S. violent crime rate with other countries that have effective gun control laws. In that respect we are one of the world's leaders.

[Figmo Bohica]

allus70,

Sorry to bust your statement, but here is something to clear that myth up.

Myth: Other countries register guns to fight crime

Fact: Most of these laws were enacted in the post World War I period to prevent civil uprisings as had occurred in Russia. A report of “Committee on the Control of Firearms,” written by the British Home Office officials in 1918, was the basis for registration in the U.K., Australia, Canada, and New Zealand.

Fact: Though restrictions were few in the United States and the number of legally held handguns exceeded those on the Canadian side by a factor of 10, rates of homicide were virtually identical

Myth: Gun registration works

Fact: Not in New Zealand. They repealed their gun registration law in the 1980s after police acknowledged its worthlessness.
Fact: Not in Australia. “It seems just to be an elaborate system of arithmetic with no tangible aim. Probably, and with the best of intentions, it may have been thought, that if it were known what firearms each individual in Victoria owned, some form of control may be exercised, and those who were guilty of criminal misuse could be readily identified. This is a fallacy, and has been proven not to be the case.” And this costs the Australian taxpayers over $200 million annually.
Fact: Not in Canada.
• More than 20,000 Canadian gun-owners have publicly refused to register their firearms. Many others are silently ignoring the law.
• The provincial governments of Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba have dumped both the administration and the enforcement of all federal gun-control laws right back into Ottawa's lap, throwing the Canadian government into a paper civil war. • And all at a cost more than 1,646% the original projected cost (the original cost was estimated at 5% of all police expenditures in Canada). "The gun registry as it sits right now is causing law abiding citizens to register their guns but it does nothing to take one illegal gun off the street or to increase any type of penalty for anybody that violates any part of the legislation," according to Al Koenig, President, Calgary Police Association. "We have an ongoing gun crisis, including firearms-related homicides lately in Toronto, and a law registering firearms has neither deterred these crimes nor helped us solve any of them", according to Toronto police Chief Julian Fantino .
• The system is so bad that five Canadian provinces (British Columbia joins Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, Nova Scotia, and Ontario) are refusing to prosecute firearm owners who fail to register.
• A bill to abolish the registry has been tabled (introduced) in the Canadian parliament which, if passed, would eliminate the registry completely.
Fact: Not in Germany. The Federal Republic of Germany began comprehensive gun registration in 1972. The government estimated that between 17,000,000 and 20,000,000 guns were to be registered, but only 3,200,000 surfaced, leaving 80% unaccounted for.
Fact: Not in Boston, Cleveland, or California. These cities and states require registration of “assault weapons.” The compliance rate in Boston and Cleveland is about 1%. California originally had a 90% non-compliance rate.
Fact: Criminals don’t register their guns.

For lots of really good information and to give you the facts on other countries with gun control here is a good place to find all that information http://www.GunFacts.info