[GrumpyOldMan]

We all make mistakes or have employees that do, it is refreshing to see a media outlet own their problem and take action as well as apologizing.

Snopes: Apology From Senior Management/

[Bucco]

This is great to see.

I first used these folks in about 2015, so I missed the errors.

I have always found them to be thorough and complete.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

It shouldn't be "refreshing." It should be typical, expected, no less than professional behavior. I'm sad that this is refreshing because it means most other places don't offer transparency, and admit when they make a mistake.

To me, Snopes is a reliable fact-checking resource, and always has been.

Note that in this apology, there is no mention that anything plagiarized was untrue. Facts are still facts, no matter where they came from, and whether or not you credited its source correctly or not.

If I say Thomas Edison invented the first electric refrigerator, I would be wrong. The credit for that invention goes to Fred W. Wolf.

However, the fact that the electric refrigerator was invented, can't be disputed. It's still fact, regardless of who invented it.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

It shouldn't be "refreshing." It should be typical, expected, no less than professional behavior. I'm sad that this is refreshing because it means most other places don't offer transparency, and admit when they make a mistake.

To me, Snopes is a reliable fact-checking resource, and always has been.

Note that in this apology, there is no mention that anything plagiarized was untrue. Facts are still facts, no matter where they came from, and whether or not you credited its source correctly or not.

If I say Thomas Edison invented the first electric refrigerator, I would be wrong. The credit for that invention goes to Fred W. Wolf.

However, the fact that the electric refrigerator was invented, can't be disputed. It's still fact, regardless of who invented it.

I completely agree with everything you said, and that is WHY I included the "refreshing" comment. I personally consider any source that has NEVER put out a retraction or correction to be lacking in credibility.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

I completely agree with everything you said, and that is WHY I included the "refreshing" comment. I personally consider any source that has NEVER put out a retraction or correction to be lacking in credibility.

Woops, sorry I was unclear. I'm not sad that you think it's refreshing. I'm sad that it really IS refreshing. And yes it is refreshing. Which is sad.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Woops, sorry I was unclear. I'm not sad that you think it's refreshing. I'm sad that it really IS refreshing. And yes it is refreshing. Which is sad.

I am sorry, I was more unclear than you were unclear - LOL. I understood your meaning. And agree, it is sad that it is refreshing. It should be ho-hum normal.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Woops, sorry I was unclear. I'm not sad that you think it's refreshing. I'm sad that it really IS refreshing. And yes it is refreshing. Which is sad.

Please allow me to add to both comments.

We have become a nation who, at this time, simply accepts falsehoods. We don’t condemn it, and from my point of view, that is “enabling behavior”. It is destroying any true discourse, among other things.

Yes, it is sad, very sad. Lying is never ever something that should be accepted. And the lying being done today is on important issues.

And to add, adding links on here that you know are untrue, is a lie in itself.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

It shouldn't be "refreshing." It should be typical, expected, no less than professional behavior. I'm sad that this is refreshing because it means most other places don't offer transparency, and admit when they make a mistake.

To me, Snopes is a reliable fact-checking resource, and always has been.

Note that in this apology, there is no mention that anything plagiarized was untrue. Facts are still facts, no matter where they came from, and whether or not you credited its source correctly or not.

If I say Thomas Edison invented the first electric refrigerator, I would be wrong. The credit for that invention goes to Fred W. Wolf.

However, the fact that the electric refrigerator was invented, can't be disputed. It's still fact, regardless of who invented it.

Thank you. It is "refreshing" to know I was wrong since I thought it was George Westinghouse

On the other hand, "Google" tells me:

"Who is the inventor of the modern refrigerator?
The American inventors Oliver Evans, Jacob Perkins, and John Gorrie are credited with developing the earliest versions of the modern refrigerator in the early 1800s. Later that century, the work of German engineer Carl von Linden allowed chemical refrigerant to be stored efficiently, paving the way for mass production of refrigerators."

So I guess we're 0 for 2

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Thank you. It is "refreshing" to know I was wrong since I thought it was George Westinghouse

On the other hand, "Google" tells me:

"Who is the inventor of the modern refrigerator?
The American inventors Oliver Evans, Jacob Perkins, and John Gorrie are credited with developing the earliest versions of the modern refrigerator in the early 1800s. Later that century, the work of German engineer Carl von Linden allowed chemical refrigerant to be stored efficiently, paving the way for mass production of refrigerators."

So I guess we're 0 for 2

The ELECTRIC refrigerator (and I should've specified - for home use).

The first electric refrigerator for home use was invented by Fred Wolf. It was called the Domelre, a portmanteau of DOMestic ELectric REfrigerator.

It was a commercial failure but did result in an innovation that hadn't been used in competitor models - the ice tray.

The History of the Refrigerator: Staying Cool Throughout the Ages

DOMELRE First Electric Refrigerator | ashrae.org

The history of the refrigerator — Sandvik Materials Technology

[Mrprez]

Wolf invented an electrical device that sat on top of your ice box and essentially replaced the block of ice. According to Wikipedia.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Mrprez

Wolf invented an electrical device that sat on top of your ice box and essentially replaced the block of ice. According to Wikipedia.

Yup, which resulted in a Refrigerator instead of an icebox. Kind of like an engine attached to a buggy changes it into a horseless carriage or automobile.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

We all make mistakes or have employees that do, it is refreshing to see a media outlet own their problem and take action as well as apologizing.

Snopes: Apology From Senior Management/

That is nice to see. I had some problems with Snopes' message board years back and have never been overly fond of them as a resource.

Originally Posted by Bucco

Please allow me to add to both comments.

We have become a nation who, at this time, simply accepts falsehoods. We don’t condemn it, and from my point of view, that is “enabling behavior”. It is destroying any true discourse, among other things.

Yes, it is sad, very sad. Lying is never ever something that should be accepted. And the lying being done today is on important issues.

And to add, adding links on here that you know are untrue, is a lie in itself.

But lying by trusted snopes is refreshing because they admitted it after they got caught. Such hypocrisy. Sheep following the pied piper.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by John41

But lying by trusted snopes is refreshing because they admitted it after they got caught. Such hypocrisy. Sheep following the pied piper.

How did they lie? The article is very clear, one of the people was using quotes without giving the proper attribution. As soon as it was pointed out to others, it was immediately addressed and they apologized for the other persons actions.

Would you please provide support or a link demonstrating a case where they lied?.

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

Let's see, they didn't lie, the article is very clear, one of the people was using quotes without giving the proper attribution. As soon as it was pointed out to others, it was immediately addressed and they apologized for the other persons actions.

NOTHING indicated that they ever lied, or posted incorrect fact checking.

So, your post is completely inaccurate and name calling and as usual you provide NOTHING to support your insults and false statement. I took you off ignore because I thought you might have something useful to say, I guess I was wrong.

When you say something is yours and it isn’t that’s lying. Bye!
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Snopes launched a probe looking into the plagiarism allegations after BuzzFeed News sent inquiries to the fact-checker. Their investigation concluded Mikkelson plagiarized in a whopping 54 articles under his own name, a pseudonym "Jeff Zarronandia," and the generic Snopes staff in the byline.
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What is Plagiarism? - Plagiarism.org
What is Plagiarism? - Plagiarism.org
In other words, plagiarism is an act of fraud. It involves both stealing someone else's work and lying about it afterward