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Old 05-06-2023, 07:53 AM
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Default Some ceiling lights in kitchen not working.

I went into our garage and looked at the circuit breaker box and it looked like I found the one that is not working and purchased a replacement at Ace yesterday.

Just curious about the circuit breaker box? I can easily make sure the light switches are off in the kitchen.

Do these circuit breakers of which they had a number of 20s in basket at Ace just plug into the board or do you have to take the whole door off and do wiring? Eaton Cutler-Hammer 20 amps Plug In Single Pole Circuit Breaker


https://www.acehardware.com/departme...breakers/31481

I will probably just call an electrician but am interested in why they would sell these out in a basket in Ace if a lot of work is involved? Lots of different kinds of screws holding the door on.

And I do not feel like electrocuting myself by taking the door off as it looks like it still will have power coming in from above even if the circuit board's main power switch is off?

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Old 05-06-2023, 08:02 AM
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I went into our garage and looked at the circuit breaker box and it looked like I found the one that is not working and purchased a replacement at Ace yesterday.

Just curious about the circuit breaker box? I can easily make sure the light switches are off in the kitchen.

Do these circuit breakers of which they had a number of 20s in basket at Ace just plug into the board or do you have to take the whole door off and do wiring? Eaton Cutler-Hammer 20 amps Plug In Single Pole Circuit Breaker


https://www.acehardware.com/departme...E&gclsrc=aw.ds

I will probably just call an electrician but am interested in why they would sell these out in a basket in Ace if a lot of work is involved? Lots of different kinds of screws holding the door on.

And I do not feel like electrocuting myself by taking the door off as it looks like it still will have power coming in from above even if the circuit board's main power switch is off?
Please call a licensed electrician before you cause a fire or hurt yourself.
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Please call a licensed electrician before you cause a fire or hurt yourself.
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Not a DIY project. Hire an electrician.
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Old 05-06-2023, 08:15 AM
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Not a DIY project. Hire an electrician.
Thanks for the various replies. I will do that.
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OP, are you sure the circuit breaker is not working? Do you know that you need to press the breaker switch to the "off" position, and then to the "on" position to reset it? Just pressing it to the "on" position will not reset it. Also, it seems strange that all of the kitchen ceiling lights would not be on the same circuit. If some of them are working, have you identified another breaker that controls them? If not, then the issue is not the breaker.
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OP, are you sure the circuit breaker is not working? Do you know that you need to press the breaker switch to the "off" position, and then to the "on" position to reset it? Just pressing it to the "on" position will not reset it. Also, it seems strange that all of the kitchen ceiling lights would not be on the same circuit. If some of them are working, have you identified another breaker that controls them? If not, then the issue is not the breaker.
It is just some of the kitchen ceiling lights. It looks to just be one breaker.

But I really would not know what I was doing after just looking at the panel.
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It is just some of the kitchen ceiling lights. It looks to just be one breaker.

But I really would not know what I was doing after just looking at the panel.
Turn on the kitchen lights, and then turn off each breaker, one at a time, to see if the lights go out. If they don't, then you probably do not have a defective breaker.
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Old 05-06-2023, 08:40 AM
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Turn on the kitchen lights, and then turn off each breaker, one at a time, to see if the lights go out. If they don't, then you probably do not have a defective breaker.
The lights will not come on at all for that section. But others do. I did fiddle with turning the circuits of a little bit. The ones over the sink will come on after but not the ones nearer the front window. But I do have another issue a electrician would need to address anyway.
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The lights will not come on at all for that section. But others do. I did fiddle with turning the circuits of a little bit. The ones over the sink will come on after but not the ones nearer the front window. But I do have another issue a electrician would need to address anyway.
In my house, the light over the sink is on a different wall switch. If the problem is a wall switch, that is an easy DIY project. Good luck.
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OP, our house (2013 vintage Gardenia) has several SETS of ceiling lights on ONE circuit breaker, Labeled GENERAL lighting, this feed goes to 3 or 4 switches which control each set of lights. As mentioned above, this sounds like a switch, it also sounds like to are very uncomfortable working around electrical equipment. I recently used Hayes Electric and was very pleased with their work and price, if you want a licensed electrician. NOTE: a switch replacement is typically allowed to be done by the homeowner, and you can use a handyman to do the switch replacement.
Tip, on our house, when the lights are off the DIMMER has a small green light, if the green light is off, either the circuit is dead, the switch has failed, or ALL of the light bulbs on that circuit have failed.
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OP, our house (2013 vintage Gardenia) has several SETS of ceiling lights on ONE circuit breaker, Labeled GENERAL lighting, this feed goes to 3 or 4 switches which control each set of lights. As mentioned above, this sounds like a switch, it also sounds like to are very uncomfortable working around electrical equipment. I recently used Hayes Electric and was very pleased with their work and price, if you want a licensed electrician. NOTE: a switch replacement is typically allowed to be done by the homeowner, and you can use a handyman to do the switch replacement.
Tip, on our house, when the lights are off the DIMMER has a small green light, if the green light is off, either the circuit is dead, the switch has failed, or ALL of the light bulbs on that circuit have failed.
Hope this helps.
Thanks. All the ceiling lights above the kitchen table are not going on when the switch is on. And the light switch does not light up like all the others in the house.
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Thanks. All the ceiling lights above the kitchen table are not going on when the switch is on. And the light switch does not light up like all the others in the house.
Just a thought, but my chandelier above the kitchen table has 2 light switches, one near the front door and the other near the sliding exterior side door.

If you can verify which circuit breaker in the panel controls the lights above the kitchen table, you should be able to replace the switch safely by turning off the breaker. If you don't feel comfortable doing it, then hire an electrician. But, most homeowners are able to do it.
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Old 05-06-2023, 02:15 PM
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Thanks. All the ceiling lights above the kitchen table are not going on when the switch is on. And the light switch does not light up like all the others in the house.
Let's apply a little logic here.

Your switch and the breaker are mechanical and both are prone to failure with time and usage, but the switch is used thousands of times of each time the breaker is used.

Only that set of lights are impacted and no other lights or outlets.

The conclusion is obvious, it's a bad switch. This is a simple DIY project if you have any DIY skills at all.
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Old 05-06-2023, 02:30 PM
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Inside an electric panel is not the place to learn DYI....you could get killed in there if you slip or touch the wrong thing... call an electrician, and live to post another day !
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