[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Originally Posted by Aces4

The public just doesn’t get it though, do they? They couldn’t figure out that they should just stay home for this holiday due to a huge threatening weather front. They’d rather blame the airlines for their own poor judgment.

and people know about this weather front when they buy there tickets 2 and 3 months earlier ?

[tvbound]

Originally Posted by blueash

Southwest per the CNN link above is still using technology for its phones, IT etc that are well out of date and has caused issues in the past. A few years ago there was a large tax cut for corporations so they could invest in new products and modernization. What did they do with this windfall? Many US corporations chose to use this new money to buy back their own stock which pushes the stock price up and rewards investors only, no benefit to consumers.



Quick now, who made this highly critical comment about airlines using tax cuts to push up their stock price instead of investing in workers and infrastructure:

“When we did a big tax cut, and when they took the money and did buybacks, that’s not building a hangar, that’s not buying aircraft, that’s not doing the kind of things that I want them to do. We didn’t think we would have had to restrict it because we thought they would have known better. But they didn’t know better, in some cases.”

Many had in fact predicted that the huge tax cuts would go right into the pockets of corporations and stay there rather than be used to benefit the non-stockholders. Surprising fact:

The huge 'blackout' that may be deepening market turbulence | CNN Business

The biggest buyer of stocks between 2009 and 2018 was not individual investors, was not institutional investors... it was corporations buying their own stocks, 4.3 TRILLION dollars in buybacks.

"The biggest buyer of stocks between 2009 and 2018 was not individual investors, was not institutional investors... it was corporations buying their own stocks, 4.3 TRILLION dollars in buybacks."

You are absolutely correct.

I believe that as long as executive compensation is tied to a single years stock price, this practice will not end. I have always thought that, at a minimum, their yearly bonuses should be based on a 2-3 year rolling average of their stock price. This way, the long term viability of the company/corporation will be given more thought and attention for the average long-term investor, rather than how the stock performed in just one year.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I hate to say it, but I think the airlines have become too efficient at filling every seat. Maybe the Federal Government should require airlines to leave 10 percent of the seats empty to allow some flexibility for cancelled flights, etc. Also, I think all bags should be checked. No carry-on luggage in overhead bins.

Checking all bags isn’t feasible when traveling with medical supplies and prescriptions.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com

and people know about this weather front they buy there tickets 2 and 3 months earlier ?

You must have missed where the airlines offered ahead of the storms to change tickets at no charge to the customer. They were forecasting this storm for over a week before it’s arrival.

[PugMom]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I would never fly on Southwest because they won't give me an assigned seat. I want an assigned seat, and once I sit down, I'm not moving, except to first class. I don't care who wants to sit next to someone else. So, there!

i had no idea this was their policy! another reason to avoid SW. last time i flew with them,(years ago) it seemed the staff was devoting all their time on the floor show before takeoff.

[tvbound]

Originally Posted by blueash

Yes sir, it is the darn government that won't allow those airlines to operate without so many regulations. Somehow every other airline but Southwest managed this storm with far greater competence and skill. Somehow only SWA has completely failed. But you blame government regulations???

Time to rethink your ability to analyze cause and effect.

If you keep bringing actual facts and reality to an emotional fight, you're not going to make friends of a lot of people around here.

Keep it up. LOL

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by PugMom

i had no idea this was their policy! another reason to avoid SW. last time i flew with them,(years ago) it seemed the staff was devoting all their time on the floor show before takeoff.

And we would rather avoid the others. Still appreciate the flight where Delta broke the head off of my brand new Taylor Made driver while in the same bag the pros were using for travel at that time.

On the flight home we understood why as we sat on the plane and watched them dump luggage from a conveyer which dropped over 6’ to the ground for loading. Never looked backed and we won’t fly them again.

[Caymus]

Originally Posted by blueash

Yes sir, it is the darn government that won't allow those airlines to operate without so many regulations. Somehow every other airline but Southwest managed this storm with far greater competence and skill. Somehow only SWA has completely failed. But you blame government regulations???

Time to rethink your ability to analyze cause and effect.

Maybe the government should ban point to point and only allow hub and spoke. That would reduce some issues.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Originally Posted by Aces4

You must have missed where the airlines offered ahead of the storms to change tickets at no charge to the customer. They were forecasting this storm for over a week before it’s arrival.

lots of people got home on there flights ,so you think every time they forecast bad weather you should cancel your plans to visit loved ones , and ,spend your vacation days at home , and not have reasonable expectations that the airline will do a much better job then they did .after all didn’t the boss say much of this was there fault , when my parents were alive , I always tried to get home for Christmas no matter where I was in the world , I didn’t get scared off by long range forecast , I took my chances , so you can blame the ticket holders if you like ,I’ll put the blame on the airline that is still floundering as I write this , it truly shows you the old saying you get what you pay for is still true , never flown southwest and never will ,

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com

lots of people got home on there flights ,so you think every time they forecast bad weather you should cancel your plans to visit loved ones , and ,spend your vacation days at home , and not have reasonable expectations that the airline will do a much better job then they did .after all didn’t the boss say much of this was there fault , when my parents were alive , I always tried to get home for Christmas no matter where I was in the world , I didn’t get scared off by long range forecast , I took my chances , so you can blame the ticket holders if you like ,I’ll put the blame on the airline that is still floundering as I write this , it truly shows you the old saying you get what you pay for is still true , never flown southwest and never will ,

This wasn’t your everyday forecast, it was one of those rare “bomb-cyclone” storms at Christmas! The old saying of you made your bed, sleep in it, could also apply.

When you have a former American Airlines pilot post on this thread that Southwest is a great airline, I’ll listen to him. He has more skin in the game.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Yes 3 cheers for the airline and boo hoo for the riders who dared come to the airport trying to get home in less then 5 days, I’ll keep buying my seats on a plane where I know where I’m sitting

[pokeefe45@aol.com]

Originally Posted by Aces4

“I WILL always travel to see family at Xmas-no matter what the weather“

Your quote makes me laugh, like you are the ONLY person with this mindset. Then why the whining about delayed travel after a horrendous winter storm? Sit down and wait for the mess you helped create is sorted out.

Southwest apparently needs an update in their systems and there will be hell to pay for that. However, Southwest was not the only airline that suffered huge delays and no one is reporting on all the other fiascos. Read back through the posts on here and acquire some knowledge of the other airlines failures.

I guarantee that if they don’t fold Southwest and it installs the required computer changes, the next horrendous winter storm during the week of Christmas will have almost the exact same effect across all airlines. But people have their mantra with which they live…

Pleased I could make you laugh. You mean there are other's who want to see family too?

The point was to counter those who are deciding that anyone who travelled knowing the weather situation, should just take their lumps. I'll take my lumps for deciding to travel during periods of weather warnings, but this was NOT about the weather. And that was the point being made.
Again, happy I could make you laugh. You might want to consider being less acerbic in your posts. You might find more success in life that way. Have a great day.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com

Yes 3 cheers for the airline and boo hoo for the riders who dared come to the airport trying to get home in less then 5 days, I’ll keep buying my seats on a plane where I know where I’m sitting

…where you’re sitting five days later than planned.

Heaven help us if people start stepping up and claiming responsibility for their decisions.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by pokeefe45@aol.com

Pleased I could make you laugh. You mean there are other's who want to see family too?

The point was to counter those who are deciding that anyone who travelled knowing the weather situation, should just take their lumps. I'll take my lumps for deciding to travel during periods of weather warnings, but this was NOT about the weather. And that was the point being made.
Again, happy I could make you laugh. You might want to consider being less acerbic in your posts. You might find more success in life that way. Have a great day.

But I was responding to an acerbic post…

[pokeefe45@aol.com]

Originally Posted by Aces4

But I was responding to a acerbic post…

"Use a when the noun or adjective that comes next begins with a consonant sound. Use an when the noun or adjective that comes next begins with a vowel sound."- He says sardonically.