[ColdNoMore]

47 year old white man = "elderly gentleman."

Young black male = "thug."


THAT...says it all.


Is there really anyone who is still confused on why...NFL players are taking a knee?

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

From what I have read so far, the girlfriend driver parked in a handicap spot although other spaces were open. She lied stating the lot was otherwise full which it was not as shown by surveillance video. Then she laughably said she did not do anything wrong when of course she had. The elderly gentleman was apparently admonishing her for her wrongdoing perhaps asking her to move her car to one of the open parking spaces so the spot could be used by a handicapped person when her boyfriend came at the shooter and blindsidedly violently shoved him to the ground without warning. If I were that man I might have felt sufficiently threatened to shoot the physically threatening thug who had already suddenly violently attacked me in self defense myself.

BTW I wonder if the violent shover had a criminal history.

I believe you when you say that... "I might have felt sufficiently threatened to shoot..."

[dewilson58]

A quick search................

Records show Drejka does not have a criminal history in Florida. McGlockton’s history included a drug conviction in 2010 and an arrest for aggravated battery a decade ago, records show, but the charge was dropped.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

47 year old white man = "elderly gentleman."

Young black male = "thug."


THAT...says it all.


Is there really anyone who is still confused on why...NFL players are taking a knee?

The shover established his thugness with his behavior, the unexpected sudden violent push to the ground, not his skin color.

As for The National Felon League? Look at the extensive criminal histories of so many of the players.

So the shooter was only 47, 19 years older than his 28 year old attacker but not elderly. He was of smaller stature and slighter build and suddenly violently pushed to the ground unexpectedly. McGlockton could have come up, verbally addressed the man to move along and if the man did not move perhaps taken the man by his elbow and ushered him away. But he obviously did not. He suddenly and unexpectedly violently physically attacked him.

Very sad for his three illegitimate children with his lying girlfriend.

[Spikearoni]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Tough call on this one. That was an uncalled for rough shove to the ground. If the pushed down man felt further physically threatened I can understand why he shot the man who battered him.

I really can't understand how this murder can be justified. Since the killer had a gun and and felt threatened as you state, why didn't he just pull out the gun and tell the guy to take off? It's very sad to read that the victim was a young father of three. Yes, he should have just gotten in his car and left the scene instead of engaging in a shove-match with the 40 something year-old shooter. However, he did not deserve to die for that imo. That stand your ground law has got to go!

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Spikearoni

I really can't understand how this murder can be justified. Since the killer had a gun and and felt threatened as you state, why didn't he just pull out the gun and tell the guy to take off? It's very sad to read that the victim was a young father of three. Yes, he should have just gotten in his car and left the scene instead of engaging in a shove-match with the 40 something year-old shooter. However, he did not deserve to die for that imo. That stand your ground law has got to go!

It is just the stupid application of it is this case. Look at some of the responses from people who actually have concealed weapon permits on here.

Maybe, the prosecutor will do the right thing and charge this shooter. That does not look like self defense to me.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

It is just the stupid application of it is this case. Look at some of the responses from people who actually have concealed weapon permits on here.

Maybe, the prosecutor will do the right thing and charge this shooter. That does not look like self defense to me.

I imagine that is what the prosecutor will do.

It would not have happened if everyone behaved well and minded their own business. We are not in charge of running the world, none of us, even if the girl was annoyingly selfish when she parked in handicap.

Now someone is dead. I believe in the validity of the second amendment and don't want it messed up if ever times change here and I may think we should have a gun at our house.

The nasty attitude of some of the posters on this thread make me want to find a billy club and bop a few people. My grandmother said to never have a gun at your home, because the best and kindest people in this world have a point that they could kill someone who does not deserve to be killed.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Spikearoni

I really can't understand how this murder can be justified. Since the killer had a gun and and felt threatened as you state, why didn't he just pull out the gun and tell the guy to take off? It's very sad to read that the victim was a young father of three. Yes, he should have just gotten in his car and left the scene instead of engaging in a shove-match with the 40 something year-old shooter. However, he did not deserve to die for that imo. That stand your ground law has got to go!

Self-defense (United States - Wikipedia)

[ColdNoMore]

Not like it's a newsflash by any means, but anger/hatred/prejudice/racism/bigotry...are still alive and thriving.

Hopefully, if most studies can be believed, the younger generation will alleviate a lot of this...when older generations start dying off.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Not like it's a newsflash by any means, but anger/hatred/prejudice/racism/bigotry...are still alive and thriving.

Hopefully, if most studies can be believed, the younger generation will alleviate a lot of this...when older generations start dying off.

Prejudice against age is bigotry. Prejudging ANY group of people is short sighted. The kind of hate we dispense usually comes back to us. We all get old and most of us gain wisdom during the trip. Most of us.

[ColdNoMore]

The data are in: Young people are definitely less racist than old people — Quartz


Facts matter.

[Henryk]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

A quick search................

Records show Drejka does not have a criminal history in Florida. McGlockton’s history included a drug conviction in 2010 and an arrest for aggravated battery a decade ago, records show, but the charge was dropped.

That may be true, but Drejka has a history of starting trouble when he can’t spot HCP plates. I hope he’s charged.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Someone called someone out for parking in a handicapped spot who wasn't handicapped. Boyfriend defended girlfriend verbally who was sitting in the car in the handicapped space and then boyfriend pushed the other guy down, the pushed down guy fired on him.

Not good, any way you slice it. The not handicapped man/woman shouldn't have parked in the handicapped space. The man should NOT have called them out on it, the boyfriend should not have laid his hands on the guy even if he was ****ed, and the man shouldn't have killed him. Most of us would NOT have had this happen because, except for on this forum, we usually mind our own business, like our PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS taught us, and common sense urges us to do.


Please someone help me down from here.

I think also another reason is that most of us would walk away from a confrontation. You never know how the other person is going to respond, what his or her rage level is, whether or not he's carrying a weapon.


Just walk away. Console yourself with the fact that karma will get him.


But then, most of us... don't park in a handicapped spot if we don't have the legal means to do so. It was bad, but not worth dying for.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by CFrance

I think also another reason is that most of us would walk away from a confrontation. You never know how the other person is going to respond, what his or her rage level is, whether or not he's carrying a weapon.


Just walk away. Console yourself with the fact that karma will get him.


But then, most of us... don't park in a handicapped spot if we don't have the legal means to do so. It was bad, but not worth dying for.

Exactly.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Henryk

That may be true, but Drejka has a history of starting trouble when he can’t spot HCP plates. I hope he’s charged.

Yep.

Originally Posted by Henryk

I hope he’s charged.

If he isn't charged, I believe it will just embolden...more vigilantism and 'hero wannabe's.'