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Papa_lecki 05-22-2025 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2433328)
So I won’t have one in my driveway but what does that have to do with the fact that autonomous taxis are in the road today and the best Tesla can do is try to catch up?

How many BlackBerrys are around - all the IPhone had to do was catch up.

All streaming had to do was catch up to Blockbuster.

I dont know if Tesla will win - the winner will have a better customer experience and a better economic model.

PJMac 05-22-2025 09:58 PM

Does it use the turn signals? Does it turn into the correct lane? Does it come to something near a complete stop? If so, everybody please get one and use this feature. I mean I am not going to, but y’all should.

FloridaGuy66 05-22-2025 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2433280)
I can't say if self-driving cars is the answer, but why cars?
Why not start with slower moving vehicles like garden tractors. :shrug:

Autonomous farm equipment and grass cutters have existed for over 10 years in the US.

In Asia, self-driving cars are already widely used in many areas. Lots of self-driving taxis in LA and SF as well.

Cliff Fr 05-23-2025 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 2433301)
I purchased my new Tesla 2024 model 3 in October of last year for $34,000. I drive under FSD about 85% of the time as I enjoy using it even though it doesn't always drive (made the same choices) as I would. Every new update to the software is an improvement plus sometimes adding new features.

As the Villages is not for everyone, riding in a Tesla is a unique experience that I am enjoying but others may not. Someday, FSD may become unsupervised but not yet in my opinion as I am not ready to give up total control. I do believe riding under FSD (supervised) is safer than not using it in my Tesla.

Do you use it while going 75 mph on a busy interstate highway?

PersonOfInterest 05-23-2025 04:47 AM

Who is the responsible party should an accident occur? Statistically it may be safer than having a human driving, but it may take awhile for people to trust a machine over a human in these situations.

Mhertzog 05-23-2025 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Spectreron (Post 2433270)
Tesla will launch its driverless robotaxi service in Austin, TX, in June and unsupervised FSD, where cars drive without human input, is expected to roll out to all compatible Tesla vehicles in Texas and California in 2025, with the rest of the U.S. soon after. A Tesla Club member recently asked how many use self-driving frequently... 3/4 of the members raised their hands (over 100 in attendance). That means a lot of the Teslas you see on the road are driving themselves. I know this will open a can of worms, but what do you think?

There’s a company called Waymo that offers self driven taxis. They’re in Phoenix/Scottsdale right now. I rode in one and it was a neat experience.

USOTR 05-23-2025 05:26 AM

Fsd
 
This is my first Tesla, and I have a 2025 Tesla Model Y.

I use Full Self Driving 80 % of the time. Both here in The Villages and when we go out of town.

A question was raised of point to point. FSD is not a finished product but it gets updates all the time. From my driveway, it now has no issues with departing the gates, round de rounds, and all the other features of driving here in The Villages. When Tesla enters a parking lot, it displays suitable parking sports, and you have to pick which one Tesla will park in.

NOTE: you do have to drive the Tesla yourself inside the parking lot to find a parking spot.

When you leave a restaurant after having a wonderful meal, my Tesla will come and pick us up at the door.. But you do have to hold your finger on the button, while it is FSD it's way to you.

The hardest part of owning a Tesla is learning the technology, then learning to trust it.

Have more questions? Come to our Villages Tesla meeting.

Petes 05-23-2025 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Spectreron (Post 2433270)
Tesla will launch its driverless robotaxi service in Austin, TX, in June and unsupervised FSD, where cars drive without human input, is expected to roll out to all compatible Tesla vehicles in Texas and California in 2025, with the rest of the U.S. soon after. A Tesla Club member recently asked how many use self-driving frequently... 3/4 of the members raised their hands (over 100 in attendance). That means a lot of the Teslas you see on the road are driving themselves. I know this will open a can of worms, but what do you think?

We rode in a Jaguar driverless taxi in San Francisco in February and felt extremely safe.

elle123 05-23-2025 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Spectreron (Post 2433270)
Tesla will launch its driverless robotaxi service in Austin, TX, in June and unsupervised FSD, where cars drive without human input, is expected to roll out to all compatible Tesla vehicles in Texas and California in 2025, with the rest of the U.S. soon after. A Tesla Club member recently asked how many use self-driving frequently... 3/4 of the members raised their hands (over 100 in attendance). That means a lot of the Teslas you see on the road are driving themselves. I know this will open a can of worms, but what do you think?

What's especially exciting is that the self-driving taxis won't need brakes or a steering wheel. Two less components to attach robotically in the factory.

Berwin 05-23-2025 05:55 AM

About 12 years ago, I got a new boss whose previous job had been working for the autonomous driving industry (don't remember exactly where). I remarked that MADD must love that concept and he replied that MADD was firmly against self-driving cars for some reason. I never did find out why.

ithos 05-23-2025 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2433326)
EM is full of dung! He's been promising this and other similar bells and whistles for over 10 years, and nothing really has happened successfully, He's a narcissistic sociopath, and I know when he is lying 'cause his lips are moving

Yeah, he is such a fraud. In fact the most successful fraud in history. He is now the richest man on earth worth over 386 billion dollars.
The Top 10 Richest People In The World (May 2025)

And that dramatic rescue of the astronaughts on the ISS was just as fake as the moon landing.
Stranded astronauts Butch Wilmore, Suni Williams safely return to Earth

opinionist 05-23-2025 06:16 AM

The insurance rates are what will tell the story of self-driving cars.
If the insurance rates are lower, it will be a great success.
If the insurance rates are higher, it is not ready for widespread use.

spinner1001 05-23-2025 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Cliff Fr (Post 2433377)
Do you use it while going 75 mph on a busy interstate highway?

I don’t own a Tesla and have been in a Tesla several times for shorter trips until this month. Three weeks ago, I rode with my friend in his Tesla for a 800 mile trip in one day. Much of the trip was on interstate highways at 70 mph+. He mostly used FSD (full self driving). I was never in the driver’s seat.

With that experience, I now believe driving this way on a longer trip on the highways is safer than with a traditional human driver. From experience, I know that human drivers in ordinary cars on long trips sometimes get sleepy, distracted from the road, and so on. The FSD technology makes those things almost irrelevant. On that trip I observed the technology using turn signals, changing lanes when cars and semi trucks around were going 70 mph+, braking when needed including when other vehicles changed lanes suddenly. At first on that trip, I was somewhat nervous at higher speeds because of doubting the technology’s safety. Then I got more confidence in the technology as I observed what it actually did.

I now believe using FSD on longer trips at highways speeds is safer than the average driver on the highways.

By the way, the current FSD technology in the ordinary Teslas you see on the road now is called Supervised FSD, meaning the car’s interior cameras are watching the eyes/head and hands of the person behind the steering wheel. The car makes a sound when their eyes/head and a hand is not in a position to take over control from FSD within a certain time. If the ‘driver’ does this too often, the car disengages FSD until the car is stopped again. It’s like punishing the driver by disengaging FSD.

OP’s post refers to Tesla’s new technology being rolled out called Unsupervised FSD that does not require a person behind the wheel ready to take over control or even a driver for robotaxies.

gohoos 05-23-2025 06:41 AM

Loved Tesla FSD
 
Tesla gave everyone free trial FSD for about 6 weeks last October/November. It is terrific (I can't judge it against Waymo since I've not been in a Waymo equipped car). Only reason I did not purchase is the price: $8000 (license belongs to you, you can transfer it to your next Tesla). Or $99 per month.

jimschlaefer 05-23-2025 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Spectreron (Post 2433270)
Tesla will launch its driverless robotaxi service in Austin, TX, in June and unsupervised FSD, where cars drive without human input, is expected to roll out to all compatible Tesla vehicles in Texas and California in 2025, with the rest of the U.S. soon after. A Tesla Club member recently asked how many use self-driving frequently... 3/4 of the members raised their hands (over 100 in attendance). That means a lot of the Teslas you see on the road are driving themselves. I know this will open a can of worms, but what do you think?

Anyone who has lived, worked or driven through Austin in the last decade or so will probably agree that no intelligent life-form has been driving vehicles in that area in decades. All Tesla has done is automate the process.


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