Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2433334)

Who will be held responsible when these things get into horrific accidents causing bodily injury and/or death?

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2433469)

He hasn't invented anything. He bought companies that created products invented by other people.

Originally Posted by RavenelRibet (Post 2433477)

The answer is yes in most cases. I drive my Tesla Mod Y everyday, all trips in FSD. It truly is amazing in what it already does - many Tesla driving skills and reactions are better than mine. But it is still a supervised version because they are still workin on a few issues. I have owned my Tesla for a year and the amount of upgrades to the software downloaded is truly remarkable, and free. Back out of garage is not yet functional but coming. But from the time you put the car in forward motion, you can click into FSD and away you go. All the way to your destination, passing slower vehicles, it will avoid obstacles (stopped cars, people, bikes, etc) by signaling and pulling into the other lane when free, it does a super job in the roundabouts, and understands all speed signs, stop signs, and all colors of traffic lights. When you get to your destination, it will take you to a drop off point - sometimes it needs help with this - but then you can get out and it will go park itself AND when you come out, you can SUMMON the car and it will come back right to you wherever you are (to your phone). Just hitch a ride with a Tesla owner and you will absolutely flip - it can already drive better than most adults no matter what their age, always puts on turn signals, and picks its way into moving traffic like a dream. All of us in TV know that Tesla does not yet negotiate the gates correctly. But we have been assured that is coming. So when you approach the gate, you take over by tapping the brake lightly, then when you are through you just engage FSD again and relax. As far as expense, look at the new Teslas coming out (Tesla 2), for around $13,000. Too expensive still??? And there is more I haven't even touched. :BigApplause:

Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2433314)

I bet it's capable of driving the speed limit, unlike thousands here.

Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 2433301)

I purchased my new Tesla 2024 model 3 in October of last year for $34,000. I drive under FSD about 85% of the time as I enjoy using it even though it doesn't always drive (made the same choices) as I would. Every new update to the software is an improvement plus sometimes adding new features.

As the Villages is not for everyone, riding in a Tesla is a unique experience that I am enjoying but others may not. Someday, FSD may become unsupervised but not yet in my opinion as I am not ready to give up total control. I do believe riding under FSD (supervised) is safer than not using it in my Tesla.

Originally Posted by gohoos (Post 2433460)

Drove from Hilton Head to Charlottesville, VA on I95. Start in right lane, pick your speed (I set it to 78 mph), when the car approaches a slower vehicle, it puts on its left directional, pulls into the left lane when safe, moves past the slower car, and when clear of the slower car puts on its right directional, moves back to the right lane when clear, and turns off the directional. It is absolutely wonderful on I95.

Originally Posted by ndf888 (Post 2433524)

Actually that’s not true. Tesla Autopilot can go up to 90 mph on highways regardless of the speed limit and up to 5 mph above the speed limit on road without a central divider. It simply can react quickly, avoid distractions, and react consistently than a human driver in various situations.

Originally Posted by Cliff Fr (Post 2433645)

What about the dead driver that was in Florida on FSD on the interstate that was killed when the FSD changed lanes into the side of a flatbed trailer? What about the couple that was killed near Ocala on I 75 that were killed when the FSD went into the rest stop exit at full speed and rammed into a parked semi?

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2433463)

No, he really doesn't. He works whoever he can trick into giving him money. He doesn't care which "side" it comes from. That is the only thing he's actually any good at.

He's not an inventor, he's a corporate raider, nothing more or less.

As for the topic itself - I don't trust other people behind the wheel, I'm certainly not going to trust a machine behind the wheel. My current car has sensors that automatically slow down when a car 100 feet ahead of me slows down, and it freaks me out so I've disabled it. I can't disable it when I have cruise control on, so when I see that I'm approaching traffic WAY up ahead, I turn the cruise control off. AI isn't always correct. I'd rather take responsibility for my own mistakes, than hand that responsibility to a machine when it comes to life and limb at 70mph on Florida's Turnpike, or in a traffic jam on 441.

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2433727)

Isn't it just amazing that none of this hate was visible 5 years ago?:popcorn:

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2433730)

I couldn't stand him then either. But it wasn't a topic of discussion here on this forum 5 years ago.

Originally Posted by sunnyFLORIDA5828 (Post 2433495)

OMG. Not factual at all. Check the truth. He is a rocket scientist by self learning. Same for developing EV to the masses. A true genius. The uninformed do not know the truth. Only listen to falsehoods spread by hateful vindictive media. Do yourself a favor and do some independent research.