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NoMo50 05-23-2025 07:24 AM

So who is ready to climb aboard an airliner with no pilots? The technology is certainly there. I'll start...not me.

Bill14564 05-23-2025 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by NoMo50 (Post 2433435)
So who is ready to climb aboard an airliner with no pilots? The technology is certainly there. I'll start...not me.

I would. By the time such a plane is approved I would have complete confidence with its safety.

ithos 05-23-2025 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2433445)
I would. By the time such a plane is approved I would have complete confidence with its safety.

There will never be a pilotless passenger plane in our lifetimes. But I do expect that the capabilites of the auto pilot will be significantly expanded.

gohoos 05-23-2025 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 2433301)
I purchased my new Tesla 2024 model 3 in October of last year for $34,000. I drive under FSD about 85% of the time as I enjoy using it even though it doesn't always drive (made the same choices) as I would. Every new update to the software is an improvement plus sometimes adding new features.

As the Villages is not for everyone, riding in a Tesla is a unique experience that I am enjoying but others may not. Someday, FSD may become unsupervised but not yet in my opinion as I am not ready to give up total control. I do believe riding under FSD (supervised) is safer than not using it in my Tesla.

I could not agree more - it is so much fun. And much safer than me driving. I view it as Tesla primary, I'm back up. 2 sets of eyes on the road. And I blush to say this, but I have been known to drive after 2 glasses of chardonnay, and it is so wonderful to have Tesla as primary driver.

Bill14564 05-23-2025 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by PersonOfInterest (Post 2433382)
Who is the responsible party should an accident occur? Statistically it may be safer than having a human driving, but it may take awhile for people to trust a machine over a human in these situations.

I would think it would be the owner of the vehicle. The owner is responsible for properly maintaining the vehicle and using it in a safe manner. If Waymo or Uber buy a fleet of cars then they would be the responsible party. If Joe Student allows his FSD vehicle to be used as an autonomous taxi then Joe Student should be responsible for the vehicle. Don't want to take the risk that your vehicle could cause an incident? Simple, keep control of your vehicle.

Of course, the owner could later sue the manufacturer for an inherent defect in the vehicle.

Tvflguy 05-23-2025 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2433326)
EM is full of dung! He's been promising this and other similar bells and whistles for over 10 years, and nothing really has happened successfully, He's a narcissistic sociopath, and I know when he is lying 'cause his lips are moving

Assumption that you are in the group of MILLIONS who, when Tesla led the EV technology years ago, LOVED HIM and all the green tech. But now that Elon personally has changed his views - the extreme HATE arises. So he puts on a red hat and they turn to spewing personal HATE with threats and destruction. Even to those who purchased one of these wonderful EVs, simply because of his views. Crazies out there.

And all the other companies that Musk created and developed to improve humanity, and funds many thousands of jobs in the world. Especially in this wonderful country. Every Tesla sold in our country was built and assembled right here in the USA.

Elon Musk is associated with several companies, including Tesla, SpaceX, Neuralink, The Boring Company, X Corp. (formerly Twitter), and xAI. He has founded and played significant roles in these companies, which span various industries such as automotive, aerospace, artificial intelligence, and tunneling.

....Yes, for sure - he's really full of dung -... right.

gohoos 05-23-2025 08:03 AM

Yes to all your questions
 
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Originally Posted by PJMac (Post 2433366)
Does it use the turn signals? Does it turn into the correct lane? Does it come to something near a complete stop? If so, everybody please get one and use this feature. I mean I am not going to, but y’all should.

Yes, it always uses directionals. Yes it uses correct lane. Yes it comes to complete stop, and waits a couple seconds. Tesla FSD is a better driver than me.

gohoos 05-23-2025 08:08 AM

On I-95 fantastic
 
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Originally Posted by Cliff Fr (Post 2433377)
Do you use it while going 75 mph on a busy interstate highway?

Drove from Hilton Head to Charlottesville, VA on I95. Start in right lane, pick your speed (I set it to 78 mph), when the car approaches a slower vehicle, it puts on its left directional, pulls into the left lane when safe, moves past the slower car, and when clear of the slower car puts on its right directional, moves back to the right lane when clear, and turns off the directional. It is absolutely wonderful on I95.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-23-2025 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2433444)
Musk definitely works a political side of the aisle and you know as well as I do, that post smacks political. :icon_wink:

No, he really doesn't. He works whoever he can trick into giving him money. He doesn't care which "side" it comes from. That is the only thing he's actually any good at.

He's not an inventor, he's a corporate raider, nothing more or less.

As for the topic itself - I don't trust other people behind the wheel, I'm certainly not going to trust a machine behind the wheel. My current car has sensors that automatically slow down when a car 100 feet ahead of me slows down, and it freaks me out so I've disabled it. I can't disable it when I have cruise control on, so when I see that I'm approaching traffic WAY up ahead, I turn the cruise control off. AI isn't always correct. I'd rather take responsibility for my own mistakes, than hand that responsibility to a machine when it comes to life and limb at 70mph on Florida's Turnpike, or in a traffic jam on 441.

Regorp 05-23-2025 08:22 AM

Driverless car
 
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Originally Posted by Spectreron (Post 2433270)
Tesla will launch its driverless robotaxi service in Austin, TX, in June and unsupervised FSD, where cars drive without human input, is expected to roll out to all compatible Tesla vehicles in Texas and California in 2025, with the rest of the U.S. soon after. A Tesla Club member recently asked how many use self-driving frequently... 3/4 of the members raised their hands (over 100 in attendance). That means a lot of the Teslas you see on the road are driving themselves. I know this will open a can of worms, but what do you think?

Have to love that ultra smart and inventive Elon Musk!!

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-23-2025 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2433453)
Assumption that you are in the group of MILLIONS who, when Tesla led the EV technology years ago, LOVED HIM and all the green tech. But now that Elon personally has changed his views - the extreme HATE arises. So he puts on a red hat and they turn to spewing personal HATE with threats and destruction. Even to those who purchased one of these wonderful EVs, simply because of his views. Crazies out there.

And all the other companies that Musk created and developed to improve humanity, and funds many thousands of jobs in the world. Especially in this wonderful country. Every Tesla sold in our country was built and assembled right here in the USA.

Elon Musk is associated with several companies, including Tesla, SpaceX, Neuralink, The Boring Company, X Corp. (formerly Twitter), and xAI. He has founded and played significant roles in these companies, which span various industries such as automotive, aerospace, artificial intelligence, and tunneling.

....Yes, for sure - he's really full of dung -... right.

I didn't love any of them. I especially didn't love SpaceX, Neuralink, X Corp, or xAI. Tesla showed promise but when he took it over he turned it into nothing more than a marketing strategy for waste. You can't say you're in favor of green policy, while spending billions on a rocket and rocket fuel to put an automobile into orbit. I mean, you can say that, but you wouldn't be telling the truth. You've just be pulling another Musk.

jerryss 05-23-2025 08:24 AM

Didn’t Elon promise that self driving will be here next year in: 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, and 2023? Just asking…..

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-23-2025 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Regorp (Post 2433465)
Have to love that ultra smart and inventive Elon Musk!!

He hasn't invented anything. He bought companies that created products invented by other people.

RavenelRibet 05-23-2025 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2433290)
Waymo is already in operation in several cities though there are concerns.

To me, Tesla is undesirable from a company perspective and from cost. Some might want to own a Tesla as a feature-rich EV but it's overkill as a taxi.

Does the current Tesla FSD work from start to finish? Will it back out of the driveway, complete the route to a destination, then find a parking place near the door? Will it look for an opportunity to pass a slower vehicle or switch lanes when driving past a vehicle on the side of the road with flashers on? I might some day be interested in a FSD capability that truly is F.

The answer is yes in most cases. I drive my Tesla Mod Y everyday, all trips in FSD. It truly is amazing in what it already does - many Tesla driving skills and reactions are better than mine. But it is still a supervised version because they are still workin on a few issues. I have owned my Tesla for a year and the amount of upgrades to the software downloaded is truly remarkable, and free. Back out of garage is not yet functional but coming. But from the time you put the car in forward motion, you can click into FSD and away you go. All the way to your destination, passing slower vehicles, it will avoid obstacles (stopped cars, people, bikes, etc) by signaling and pulling into the other lane when free, it does a super job in the roundabouts, and understands all speed signs, stop signs, and all colors of traffic lights. When you get to your destination, it will take you to a drop off point - sometimes it needs help with this - but then you can get out and it will go park itself AND when you come out, you can SUMMON the car and it will come back right to you wherever you are (to your phone). Just hitch a ride with a Tesla owner and you will absolutely flip - it can already drive better than most adults no matter what their age, always puts on turn signals, and picks its way into moving traffic like a dream. All of us in TV know that Tesla does not yet negotiate the gates correctly. But we have been assured that is coming. So when you approach the gate, you take over by tapping the brake lightly, then when you are through you just engage FSD again and relax. As far as expense, look at the new Teslas coming out (Tesla 2), for around $13,000. Too expensive still??? And there is more I haven't even touched. :BigApplause:

Johnsocat 05-23-2025 08:50 AM

Maybe safer than air control towers at this point...


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