Originally Posted by Taj44 (Post 236392)

Wrong or right, I think people expected a little more from Tiger than we do from other athletes for several reasons. Other than John Daly, golf has not had the scandals of drugs, alcohol, etc. that other sports seem to generate. Golf is known as a game of "doing the right thing". It is an honorable game where you call penalties on yourself even if no one is watching. Golfers like Jack Nicholas and Phil Mickelson and Arnold Palmer are popular for their golf but also are known for being good guys and a family men. Tiger falls into the same category. We've watched him since he was two years old swinging a golf club on TV. We've read about how Earl Woods groomed Tiger to be a golfer and instilled good values in him. Earl intimidated that Tiger was capable of much more than just golf, perhaps even political office.

Tiger Woods has always been perceived by the public to be a model athlete and person of good morals, certainly a hero to many young people. How many athletes do we see in other sports that have something akin to The Tiger Woods Foundation? And interestingly, the Tiger Woods Foundation calls itself a "nationwide character development program". As such, Tiger's dalliances with trashy women have struck a nerve with the public. If he was an ordinary guy we would all leave him and his wife alone and hope they could work it out, but his celebrity status will obviously make him a target of public discussion and scrutiny. You can't get paid millions in advertising endorsement dollars to have your name plastered on all sorts of products, and expect the public to ignore you. The money comes with a certain responsibility.

Originally Posted by Taj44 (Post 236392)

Wrong or right, I think people expected a little more from Tiger than we do from other athletes for several reasons. Other than John Daly, golf has not had the scandals of drugs, alcohol, etc. that other sports seem to generate. Golf is known as a game of "doing the right thing". It is an honorable game where you call penalties on yourself even if no one is watching. Golfers like Jack Nicholas and Phil Mickelson and Arnold Palmer are popular for their golf but also are known for being good guys and a family men. Tiger falls into the same category. We've watched him since he was two years old swinging a golf club on TV. We've read about how Earl Woods groomed Tiger to be a golfer and instilled good values in him. Earl intimidated that Tiger was capable of much more than just golf, perhaps even political office.

Tiger Woods has always been perceived by the public to be a model athlete and person of good morals, certainly a hero to many young people. How many athletes do we see in other sports that have something akin to The Tiger Woods Foundation? And interestingly, the Tiger Woods Foundation calls itself a "nationwide character development program". As such, Tiger's dalliances with trashy women have struck a nerve with the public. If he was an ordinary guy we would all leave him and his wife alone and hope they could work it out, but his celebrity status will obviously make him a target of public discussion and scrutiny. You can't get paid millions in advertising endorsement dollars to have your name plastered on all sorts of products, and expect the public to ignore you. The money comes with a certain responsibility.

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 236326)

It's really not funny. But it was his choice. He didn't HAVE to do it and HE didn't get leprosy or polio. He got laid.

It is definitely not funny to his wife and his sweet little kids are gonna read about it one of these days.

Back in my neighborhood when someone messed up the answer was, If you burn your butt you sit on the blister.

I gotta hand it to him. He owned it. Now what he does with the rest of his life is his to choose.

I would guess that particularly in this community of people who have lived several decades that most of us have made some big mistakes and lots of little ones. It's what we do after that that is the measure of a man....or a woman.

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston (Post 236348)

"A man's fidelity is proportionate to the depth of his opportunities" Anonymous

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston (Post 236348)

"A man's fidelity is proportionate to the depth of his opportunities" Anonymous

Originally Posted by katezbox (Post 236404)

Taj,

I hear you ...but a couple of points to ponder. First Russ had a great post on how many "opportunities" must come Tiger's way. That doesn't excuse him, but...

We will never know if Jack or Arnie had any sideline romances - the press in their heyday was not the 24/7 paparazzi driven gossip-driven medium then that it is today. Even Phil doesn't garner 10% of the media scutiny that Tiger does.

And I really take exception to the "trashy women" descriptive. Maybe she made a mistake too. Why does the woman always bear the majority of the responsibility?

Originally Posted by Taj44 (Post 236436)

Calling someone trashy by no means implies she bears the majority of the responsibility. In fact my post said specifically my opinion about Tiger's responsibiliyy. And I call anyone who knowingly fools around with a married man, especially one who has 2 young children, trashy. Just my opinion.

As far as your statement regarding "opportunities that come Tiger's way, but....", its true -if you're a celebrity, you will have tons of gold digger type women throwing themselves at you. It comes with the territory. In my book that doesn't make it okay to cheat on your wife with professional party girls. Again, my opinion.

Originally Posted by katezbox (Post 236439)

...And calling someone trashy greatly oversimplifies the situation... because what we don't know is if this was a mistake made once or a few tims with the same person - or a pattern of irresponsible behavior....

Originally Posted by Taj44 (Post 236445)

The woman said she was with him 20 times. I think that speaks for itself.

Originally Posted by zcaveman (Post 236447)

Which woman? Now there are two that are in the picture if you read today's Orlando Sentinel.

And why does 20 times make her trashy? Maybe Tiger told her she was the one and is leading her on. Maybe the sex is great and that is why they keep getting together.

Originally Posted by GMONEY (Post 236450)

maybe, just maybe and that is strecthing it, you cant believe all you read.. esp... the National enquire and all those other trash papers. Hell i could say i slept with Palin and have Proof and make up a bunch of things, she will the be put the ringer and didnt even get a chance to say a word.

set back and relax, not the end of the world...